Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Document the all-balls IPv6 address.

2011-03-24 Thread Ross J. Reedstrom
On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:00:19PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
  On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net 
  wrote:
  On 03/18/2011 09:18 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
  all balls seems like a colloquialism best avoided in our documentation.
 
  It's already there, although I agree it's infelicitous.
 
  I vote for taking it out.  I think that could be interpreted as 
  inappropriate.
 
 IIRC, the pre-existing usage refers to time 00:00:00.  It does not seem
 especially useful to adopt the same terminology for network addresses;
 that's more likely to confuse people than anything else.
 

And just as a historical etymological note for the list, in case anyone
finds this in the archives: all balls referring to all zeros setting
shows up as NASA speak in Apollo era transcripts, for any sort of all
zeros setting - the one I remember off hand was actually a angle
setting for an engine firing for Apollo 13. It may have been milspeak at
one time as well. The more modern interpretation seems to be a
contraction of all balls, no brains, so would in fact be a little off
for a changelog entry.

Ross etymologically yours Reedstrom
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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Document the all-balls IPv6 address.

2011-03-24 Thread Merlin Moncure
On Thu, Mar 24, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Ross J. Reedstrom reeds...@rice.edu wrote:
 On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 11:00:19PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
  On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net 
  wrote:
  On 03/18/2011 09:18 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
  all balls seems like a colloquialism best avoided in our documentation.

  It's already there, although I agree it's infelicitous.

  I vote for taking it out.  I think that could be interpreted as 
  inappropriate.

 IIRC, the pre-existing usage refers to time 00:00:00.  It does not seem
 especially useful to adopt the same terminology for network addresses;
 that's more likely to confuse people than anything else.


 And just as a historical etymological note for the list, in case anyone
 finds this in the archives: all balls referring to all zeros setting
 shows up as NASA speak in Apollo era transcripts, for any sort of all
 zeros setting - the one I remember off hand was actually a angle
 setting for an engine firing for Apollo 13. It may have been milspeak at
 one time as well. The more modern interpretation seems to be a
 contraction of all balls, no brains, so would in fact be a little off
 for a changelog entry.

This question has indeed come up before. See:
http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-docs/2005-01/msg00054.php.  I
suppose that 'balls' as one of a large and growing number of words
that has to be used carefully due to the increasingly deficient
character of the modern mind.

merlin

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Re: [HACKERS] [COMMITTERS] pgsql: Document the all-balls IPv6 address.

2011-03-18 Thread Tom Lane
Robert Haas robertmh...@gmail.com writes:
 On Fri, Mar 18, 2011 at 10:19 PM, Andrew Dunstan and...@dunslane.net wrote:
 On 03/18/2011 09:18 PM, Robert Haas wrote:
 all balls seems like a colloquialism best avoided in our documentation.

 It's already there, although I agree it's infelicitous.

 I vote for taking it out.  I think that could be interpreted as inappropriate.

IIRC, the pre-existing usage refers to time 00:00:00.  It does not seem
especially useful to adopt the same terminology for network addresses;
that's more likely to confuse people than anything else.

regards, tom lane

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