Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001115 08:15] wrote: I couldn't say I like these options, because they seem arbitrary, but given that it only affects the 0 univel users and the 3 bsdi users left (freebsd will be fixed), I wouldn't make a fuzz. BSDi still has a market niche, and they are actively porting to more platforms. I do feel more strongly about removing '-pipe', but it's not something I'm going to pursue. Why? -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001115 08:15] wrote: I couldn't say I like these options, because they seem arbitrary, but given that it only affects the 0 univel users and the 3 bsdi users left (freebsd will be fixed), I wouldn't make a fuzz. BSDi still has a market niche, and they are actively porting to more platforms. The template/bsdi file has: case $host_cpu in i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; esac Leave to BSDI to do it right. :-) -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 853-3000 + If your life is a hard drive, | 830 Blythe Avenue + Christ can be your backup.| Drexel Hill, Pennsylvania 19026
[HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' $ pwd /home/ler/pg-dev/pgsql/src/template $ -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' Why would you want to? Not all gccs support -mpentium/mpentiumpro etc. -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc.
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Trond Eivind Glomsr?d [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 15:43]: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' Why would you want to? Not all gccs support -mpentium/mpentiumpro etc. I would remove it entirely. Why should a package FORCE 486 or any other processor optimizations? Larry -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc. -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 13:42] wrote: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' $ pwd /home/ler/pg-dev/pgsql/src/template $ I have a patch pending for FreeBSD to support alpha builds that also disables -m486 so if you left the freebsd template alone it would be ok. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Trond Eivind Glomsrød [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 13:45] wrote: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' Why would you want to? Not all gccs support -mpentium/mpentiumpro etc. The idea is to remove it entirely (I hope) not add even more arch specific compile flags. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 15:47]: * Trond Eivind Glomsrød [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 13:45] wrote: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' Why would you want to? Not all gccs support -mpentium/mpentiumpro etc. The idea is to remove it entirely (I hope) not add even more arch specific compile flags. Bingo... I want the USER to be able to specify it, not our template. LER -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 13:47] wrote: * Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 15:46]: * Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 13:42] wrote: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' $ pwd /home/ler/pg-dev/pgsql/src/template $ I have a patch pending for FreeBSD to support alpha builds that also disables -m486 so if you left the freebsd template alone it would be ok. I have a P-III, I don't want the template to specify it *AT ALL*. (this is on FreeBSD 4.2-BETA). My patches set i386-FreeBSD to -O2 and alpha-FreeBSD to -O, no worries. It seems like GCC does the right (or mostly right) thing without the -m option heh. :) -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* Alfred Perlstein [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 15:46]: * Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 13:42] wrote: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' $ pwd /home/ler/pg-dev/pgsql/src/template $ I have a patch pending for FreeBSD to support alpha builds that also disables -m486 so if you left the freebsd template alone it would be ok. I have a P-III, I don't want the template to specify it *AT ALL*. (this is on FreeBSD 4.2-BETA). It seems like GCC does the right (or mostly right) thing without the -m option -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk." -- Larry Rosenman http://www.lerctr.org/~ler Phone: +1 972-414-9812 (voice) Internet: [EMAIL PROTECTED] US Mail: 1905 Steamboat Springs Drive, Garland, TX 75044-6749
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Trond Eivind Glomsr?d [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 15:43]: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' Why would you want to? Not all gccs support -mpentium/mpentiumpro etc. I would remove it entirely. Why should a package FORCE 486 or any other processor optimizations? It doesn't force, it only uses those if you don't specify any yourself AFAIK (at least, that's the normal way to do it) FWIW, this was what Red Hat Linux used up to and including 6.2 - it increases performance on almost every chip, it runs everywhere, it goes with any gcc. -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc.
Re: [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Trond Eivind Glomsrød) writes: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * Trond Eivind Glomsr?d [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 15:43]: Larry Rosenman [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone care if I build a patch to kill the -m486 type options in the following files: $ grep -i -- 486 * bsdi: i?86) CFLAGS="$CFLAGS -m486";; freebsd:CFLAGS='-O2 -m486 -pipe' univel:CFLAGS='-v -O -K i486,host,inline,loop_unroll -Dsvr4' Why would you want to? Not all gccs support -mpentium/mpentiumpro etc. I would remove it entirely. Why should a package FORCE 486 or any other processor optimizations? It doesn't force, it only uses those if you don't specify any yourself AFAIK (at least, that's the normal way to do it) FWIW, this was what Red Hat Linux used up to and including 6.2 - it increases performance on almost every chip, it runs everywhere, it goes with any gcc. To clarify - this is on IA32 only, of course. OSes know running on more chips should get separate entries, like Linux does. -- Trond Eivind Glomsrød Red Hat, Inc.
One more [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
Hi , I would like to increase perfomance of PG 7.02 on i486, where can I read about this ? May be there is any flags for postgres ? Thanks. Igor
Re: One more [HACKERS] 486 Optimizations...
* igor [EMAIL PROTECTED] [001114 20:46] wrote: Hi , I would like to increase perfomance of PG 7.02 on i486, where can I read about this ? May be there is any flags for postgres ? Check your C compiler's manpage for the relevant optimization flags, be aware that some compilers can emit broken code when pushed to thier highest optimization levels. -- -Alfred Perlstein - [[EMAIL PROTECTED]|[EMAIL PROTECTED]] "I have the heart of a child; I keep it in a jar on my desk."
