Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Gaetano Mendola wrote: I agree in general with you for these general arguments, but here we are talking about to introduce a sleep ( removable by guc ) or not! What about the hash refactoring introduced with 7.4? Are you going to discourage people to use the hash? That's not fair. Everyone's had the chance to test 7.4 betas 1 through 4 on their own hardware to see if it is safe and stable. If I've load tested the betas and found them reliable, and suddenly find that 7.4 rc1 or release were to be less reliable (I'm not talking about THIS patch in particular, I'm talking about ANY patch...) than the betas I would be upset that the change happened at the end instead of the beginning of the release cycle. I think this patch is a great idea, but it's probably got a lot of refinement coming down the line. I'd be glad to test it on the 7.4 branch as a patch, but it's just too late to put performance enhancements into the main branch. Now is bug fixing time, not performance tweaking time. That was pre-beta1 really. To review: The hasgagg has had testing, and lots of it, by the people who need it. This patch has had little testing. While I'm sure it's a fairly safe change, and likely to be a good thing overall, it's just too late in the cycle for it to get in. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Marc G. Fournier writes: As for beta, I used 'beta#' throughout this release cycle, and will use RC# for the release candidate(s) ... Actually, this messes up the lexicographical ordering of the release tarballs in directory listings, upgrade schemes, etc., so please don't do this again. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Tom Lane wrote: Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Is in the last Tom's patch about Vacuum sleep between pages ? that won't be in v7.4, to the best of my knowledge ... Definitely not. It's a very experimental patch. I not agree, is an experimental patch that introduce just a delay, you now it better than me, and this delay can be shipped with a default value 0. Alias an experimental feature that can be disabled. I think that we are going to see a lot of 7.4 installation with that patch applied. Gaetano ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 05:35:42PM +0100, Gaetano Mendola wrote: I agree in general with you for these general arguments, but here we are talking about to introduce a sleep ( removable by guc ) or not! What about the hash refactoring introduced with 7.4? Are you going to discourage people to use the hash? Hashed subselect handling was tested by lots of people during a lot of time, and was subject of the working port reports the last few days. This patch has had none of those. Of course, if you want to patch your servers with it no one will stop you, but it will be _your_ responsability. You can do any amount of testing you want to make sure it's good enough for you. And you are welcome to report how it did behave. -- Alvaro Herrera (alvherre[a]dcc.uchile.cl) Investigación es lo que hago cuando no sé lo que estoy haciendo (Wernher von Braun) ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Alvaro Herrera wrote: On Tue, Nov 04, 2003 at 05:35:42PM +0100, Gaetano Mendola wrote: I agree in general with you for these general arguments, but here we are talking about to introduce a sleep ( removable by guc ) or not! What about the hash refactoring introduced with 7.4? Are you going to discourage people to use the hash? Hashed subselect handling was tested by lots of people during a lot of time, and was subject of the working port reports the last few days. This patch has had none of those. Of course, if you want to patch your servers with it no one will stop you, but it will be _your_ responsability. You can do any amount of testing you want to make sure it's good enough for you. And you are welcome to report how it did behave. I will with pleasure. Regards Gaetano Mendola ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Marc G. Fournier writes: As Tom announced on Friday, Release Candidate 1 has now been tag'd and bundled ... Can you please sometime decide once and for all how you're going to name the tarballs and then communicate that information to the group? Is it rc1 or RC1, beta2 or b2? It's not that there is a technical problem with any of these choices, but the amount of randomness in this process just scares me with every new release you make. please test to confirm that nothing seems off with this build The tarball contains a file doc/man-7.4.tar.gz, but the makefiles expect to see a file doc/man.tar.gz. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: you can get off all lists at once with the unregister command (send unregister YourEmailAddressHere to [EMAIL PROTECTED])
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
On Mon, 3 Nov 2003, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Marc G. Fournier writes: As Tom announced on Friday, Release Candidate 1 has now been tag'd and bundled ... Can you please sometime decide once and for all how you're going to name the tarballs and then communicate that information to the group? Is it rc1 or RC1, beta2 or b2? It's not that there is a technical problem with any of these choices, but the amount of randomness in this process just scares me with every new release you make. Why does it scare you? *raised eyebrow* As for beta, I used 'beta#' throughout this release cycle, and will use RC# for the release candidate(s) ... please test to confirm that nothing seems off with this build The tarball contains a file doc/man-7.4.tar.gz, but the makefiles expect to see a file doc/man.tar.gz. k, am re-generating with the change in place ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Marc G. Fournier writes: Why does it scare you? *raised eyebrow* Because release-making should be a predictable process. But if every other release brings a new surprise in the naming scheme, it's not. -- Peter Eisentraut [EMAIL PROTECTED] ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 7: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Marc G. Fournier wrote: As Tom announced on Friday, Release Candidate 1 has now been tag'd and bundled ... please test to confirm that nothing seems off with this build Is in the last Tom's patch about Vacuum sleep between pages ? Regards Gaetano Mendola ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Marc G. Fournier wrote: As Tom announced on Friday, Release Candidate 1 has now been tag'd and bundled ... please test to confirm that nothing seems off with this build Is in the last Tom's patch about Vacuum sleep between pages ? that won't be in v7.4, to the best of my knowledge ... ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] 7.4RC1 tag'd, branched and bundled ...
Marc G. Fournier [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 4 Nov 2003, Gaetano Mendola wrote: Is in the last Tom's patch about Vacuum sleep between pages ? that won't be in v7.4, to the best of my knowledge ... Definitely not. It's a very experimental patch. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: subscribe and unsubscribe commands go to [EMAIL PROTECTED]
