Re: [HACKERS] Oracle beats up on Open Source Database(s) ... and

2002-10-03 Thread Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder

On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 16:14, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
 
 Just in case anyone enjoys these sorts of things :)  It deals with the
 whole .org TLD assignment ...
 
   http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report

I like this one:

| Unlike many of the conventional commercial databases, PostgreSQL has
| offered advanced Object Relational capabilities for years, including
| inheritance. Ms. Gelhausen is quite correct that these are important 
| capabilities, finally available with the release of Oracle9i. We 
| applaud Oracle's continued efforts to close the gap and stay 
| ompetitive with this, and other open source database features.

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Re: [HACKERS] Oracle beats up on Open Source Database(s) ... and

2002-10-03 Thread Bruce Momjian

Adrian 'Dagurashibanipal' von Bidder wrote:
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 On Wed, 2002-10-02 at 16:14, Marc G. Fournier wrote:
  
  Just in case anyone enjoys these sorts of things :)  It deals with the
  whole .org TLD assignment ...
  
  http://forum.icann.org/org-eval/gartner-report
 
 I like this one:
 
 | Unlike many of the conventional commercial databases, PostgreSQL has
 | offered advanced Object Relational capabilities for years, including
 | inheritance. Ms. Gelhausen is quite correct that these are important 
 | capabilities, finally available with the release of Oracle9i. We 
 | applaud Oracle's continued efforts to close the gap and stay 
 | competitive with this, and other open source database features.

Yes, I found the thread assuming.  Here are the choice parts from the
Oracle posting:

 PostgreSQL, like many other open source database products, has been in
 the market for many years with very little adoption.  Unlike the

Oh, someone should tell our huge user base.

 open-source operating system market, the open-source database market has

We support Linux, so I can't bad mouth open-source OS's.

 been unsuccessful due to the complexity of customer requirements and
 sophistication of the technology needed.  PostgreSQL is used primarily

Fear-uncertainty-doubt.  Express it as fact and people will belive it.

 in the embedded system market because it lacks the transactional
 features, high availability, security and manageability of any
 commercial enterprise database.

He is confusing us with MySQL.   Oh, they are all the same;  doesn't
matter.

[ Quotes of lots of stuff PostgreSQL has had for years that Oracle just
added recently.  Is he trying to make Oracle look good?  ]

 While there is a place in the industry for open source software.  It
 will be many years, if ever, that an open source database matches
 Oracle's database technology for the availability, standards support,
 performance, manageability, security, application support, and stability
 that most real-world business applications require.

Fear-uncertainty-doubt (FUD).

 thank you.
 Jenny Gelhausen
 Oracle Marketing
 
 

Oh, that explains it all.

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