Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Oleg Bartunov wrote: It's still not easy to come from Russia to Canada. I have to convince officer in canadian embassy that 1) I have enough money for living in Canada 2) I don't want to immigrate 3) I'm a loyal citizen Invitation from conference commitee could help me to get an official letter from my institute to embassy (1,2). But we still have 3) I should get references for all members of my family from our police department that we're not criminals :) There is no united database, so I should get references from all places I live ! This is awful and I'm about to give up, even if I'd be able to afford tickets. Yowch! I know it must have improved somewhat since (doesn't it?), post-Cold War Russia was well painted in the media as 'corrupt and heavy crime rate' side of things (news rarely reports the good, since the bad is what sells) ... and none of *that* helps make, *at least* 2 in the above any easier ;( Oleg On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Christopher Browne wrote: Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier): Just curious, but how do ppl come to Canada as tourists from other countries? I don't imagine they need to be invited by a Canadian, do they? Well, the invitation thing doesn't apply at all to people from North America or Western Europe; it's generally just applicable to those coming from Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, and South America. Much of those regions represent developing countries, where the notion of middle class is emerging as opposed to being a mature thing. Absent of middle class, you generally have the other two ends, namely lower-lower class, who can't conceivably afford to be tourists, and upper class, who can certainly arrange invitations (if not diplomatic status :-) !). In my lifetime, the world has quite changed. Thirty years ago, the only way Russians would be coming to Canada would be under pretty strict scrutiny of the apparatus of the former Soviet Union, which would definitely elicit suspicion. Either you'd be of governmental/diplomatic status, an athlete/performer, or, well, quite likely you're an undeclared spy... It's quite an enormous change for relatively ordinary people (well, if they're working on PostgreSQL, they've got to be at least a little extraordinary! ;-)) to be just visiting from such places. Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru), Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier): Just curious, but how do ppl come to Canada as tourists from other countries? I don't imagine they need to be invited by a Canadian, do they? Well, the invitation thing doesn't apply at all to people from North America or Western Europe; it's generally just applicable to those coming from Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, and South America. Much of those regions represent developing countries, where the notion of middle class is emerging as opposed to being a mature thing. Absent of middle class, you generally have the other two ends, namely lower-lower class, who can't conceivably afford to be tourists, and upper class, who can certainly arrange invitations (if not diplomatic status :-) !). In my lifetime, the world has quite changed. Thirty years ago, the only way Russians would be coming to Canada would be under pretty strict scrutiny of the apparatus of the former Soviet Union, which would definitely elicit suspicion. Either you'd be of governmental/diplomatic status, an athlete/performer, or, well, quite likely you're an undeclared spy... It's quite an enormous change for relatively ordinary people (well, if they're working on PostgreSQL, they've got to be at least a little extraordinary! ;-)) to be just visiting from such places. -- cbbrowne,@,cbbrowne.com http://linuxfinances.info/info/slony.html It is considered artful to append many messages on a subject, leaving only the most inflammatory lines from each, and reply to all in one swift blow. The choice of lines to support your argument can make or break your case. -- from the Symbolics Guidelines for Sending Mail ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
It's still not easy to come from Russia to Canada. I have to convince officer in canadian embassy that 1) I have enough money for living in Canada 2) I don't want to immigrate 3) I'm a loyal citizen Invitation from conference commitee could help me to get an official letter from my institute to embassy (1,2). But we still have 3) I should get references for all members of my family from our police department that we're not criminals :) There is no united database, so I should get references from all places I live ! This is awful and I'm about to give up, even if I'd be able to afford tickets. Oleg On Sat, 11 Mar 2006, Christopher Browne wrote: Quoth [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier): Just curious, but how do ppl come to Canada as tourists from other countries? I don't imagine they need to be invited by a Canadian, do they? Well, the invitation thing doesn't apply at all to people from North America or Western Europe; it's generally just applicable to those coming from Africa, Asia, Eastern Europe, and South America. Much of those regions represent developing countries, where the notion of middle class is emerging as opposed to being a mature thing. Absent of middle class, you generally have the other two ends, namely lower-lower class, who can't conceivably afford to be tourists, and upper class, who can certainly arrange invitations (if not diplomatic status :-) !). In my lifetime, the world has quite changed. Thirty years ago, the only way Russians would be coming to Canada would be under pretty strict scrutiny of the apparatus of the former Soviet Union, which would definitely elicit suspicion. Either you'd be of governmental/diplomatic status, an athlete/performer, or, well, quite likely you're an undeclared spy... It's quite an enormous change for relatively ordinary people (well, if they're working on PostgreSQL, they've got to be at least a little extraordinary! ;-)) to be just visiting from such places. Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru), Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Alvaro, Thanks for the pointers. I'm looking forward to finding somebody who wants to sponsor me on this issue ... or maybe get me a passport from the Holy See. The other pointy bit is that the letter of invitation needs to indicate the inviter's relationship to the person being invited. I expect that would need to be a tad more specific than merely he's some guy from Sweden that I heard about on the Internet... Rats :-( This isn't going to be a problem for you. We'll put your stuff in the works; Andrew or Neil will have to invite you. -- --Josh Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Just curious, but how do ppl come to Canada as tourists from other countries? I don't imagine they need to be invited by a Canadian, do they? On Fri, 10 Mar 2006, Josh Berkus wrote: Alvaro, Thanks for the pointers. I'm looking forward to finding somebody who wants to sponsor me on this issue ... or maybe get me a passport from the Holy See. The other pointy bit is that the letter of invitation needs to indicate the inviter's relationship to the person being invited. I expect that would need to be a tad more specific than merely he's some guy from Sweden that I heard about on the Internet... Rats :-( This isn't going to be a problem for you. We'll put your stuff in the works; Andrew or Neil will have to invite you. -- --Josh Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 08:56:23AM -, Dave Page wrote: Do you have someone with some local knowledge who can recommend some nearby hotels? Yes. If you go to http://conference.postgresql.org/Location/, I've put up some information about this. I'll be expanding those pages as things move along. BTW, now that we seem to be really underway, I'll also likely be contacting known-to-be-local people and hitting them up for specific things we might need. The organisers group was (at my insistence, so you all can blame me) kept small initially because the timeline for this was, I thought, extremely compressed (so I thought we had to nail down some things before we started getting too many people involved). If you are local to the Toronto area, are willing to help with the many on-the-ground things that are likely needed to be done, and will be available to do so, I eagerly solicit your help. Please contact me off list in that case. A -- Andrew Sullivan | [EMAIL PROTECTED] The plural of anecdote is not data. --Roger Brinner ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
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On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 15:13:54 -0500 Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, now that we seem to be really underway, I'll also likely be contacting known-to-be-local people and hitting them up for specific things we might need. The organisers group was (at my insistence, so you all can blame me) kept small initially because the timeline for this was, I thought, extremely compressed (so I thought we had to nail down some things before we started getting too many people involved). If you are local to the Toronto area, are willing to help with the many on-the-ground things that are likely needed to be done, and will be available to do so, I eagerly solicit your help. Please contact me off list in that case. What type of things will you be needing? I can probably spare some time. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain darcy@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
On Thu, 9 Mar 2006 16:18:43 -0500 D'Arcy J.M. Cain darcy@druid.net wrote: What type of things will you be needing? I can probably spare some time. Doh! Sorry about that. I did reply instead of reply all thinking it would only go to Andrew. I didn't meant to send to the list. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain darcy@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Am Dienstag, 7. März 2006 08:50 schrieb Tom Lane: Sometime you ought to clue us in on where the event is being held. It's at Ryerson University in downtown Toronto. There will be a web site with further information Real Soon Now. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Eisentraut Sent: 07 March 2006 08:55 To: Tom Lane Cc: Josh Berkus; pgsql-hackers@postgresql.org; Greg Stark Subject: Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions Am Dienstag, 7. März 2006 08:50 schrieb Tom Lane: Sometime you ought to clue us in on where the event is being held. It's at Ryerson University in downtown Toronto. There will be a web site with further information Real Soon Now. Do you have someone with some local knowledge who can recommend some nearby hotels? Regards, Dave. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
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On Tue, 2006-03-07 at 11:04 -0500, Greg Stark wrote: Uh oh, $50 sounds light for downtown; you aren't thinking of doing this thing somewhere out in Toronto's nigh infinite suburbs are you? The Bay Street Hotel has rooms for about $60/night and is located within a 7 minute walk of Ryerson. http://toronto.hotelguide.net/data/h100246.htm But yes, a larger brandname hotel will be closer to the $200/night mark and the luxury suites top out at about $5000/night. In short, there is a fairly wide range of accommodations. -- ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
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People: Uh oh, $50 sounds light for downtown; you aren't thinking of doing this thing somewhere out in Toronto's nigh infinite suburbs are you? Since Ryerson is a university, they will rent us some dorm rooms for a cost below that of nearby hotels for the budget-conscious. BTW, the web site is up, it's just not fully populated yet: conference.postgresql.org -- --Josh Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
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Greg Stark wrote: I missed that this was happening up here in Canada. How exclusive is the guest list for this? Like, are you only expecting 50 top contributors by invitation only or is anyone who can make it welcome? Everyone is hereby invited. What kind of costs are anticipated? We don't know that yet. We're going to tell as soon as we have a reliable calculation. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
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Luke Lonergan wrote: I'm asking our performance lead, Ayush Parashar, to develop a talk proposal that will discuss performance of Postgres, including enhancements like the on-disk bitmap index, sort improvements, etc. We'd also like to discuss the business intelligence use-cases and where parallelism is applicable. That sounds reasonable. Please feel free to use the published submissions address to discuss your proposal if you're not sure about it. But I must point out that everyone who copies replies to this thread to the announce mailing list will be required to attend a mandatory mailing list conduct seminar on Friday July 7, 20:00. :-) -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
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Greg, What kind of costs are anticipated? We don't know that yet. We're going to tell as soon as we have a reliable calculation. However, it's looking like registration will be around $175-$200 USD per developer. Sponsorships may bring that down, but I'm not counting on it. Accomodations will range between $50/night to $110 per night depending on where you want to stay. Airfare is your own lookout; again, we're looking to get help for airfare for important speakers coming from very far away, but I don't have money in the bank yet. -- Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Josh Berkus josh@agliodbs.com writes: Accomodations will range between $50/night to $110 per night depending on where you want to stay. Sometime you ought to clue us in on where the event is being held. regards, tom lane ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
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Christopher Browne wrote: Here should be the authoritative information: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.html Countries/Territories Requiring Visas http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/letter.html Letter of Invitation for Countries Whose Citizens Require a Temporary Resident Visa to Enter Canada Wow, this is a great deal of burden that for sure I didn't have to do last time :-( Not sure why, maybe the laws changed or something. It is crystal clear that I have to do it this time however. Thanks for the pointers. I'm looking forward to finding somebody who wants to sponsor me on this issue ... or maybe get me a passport from the Holy See. The other pointy bit is that the letter of invitation needs to indicate the inviter's relationship to the person being invited. I expect that would need to be a tad more specific than merely he's some guy from Sweden that I heard about on the Internet... Rats :-( -- Alvaro Herrerahttp://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
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Wow, this is a great deal of burden that for sure I didn't have to do last time :-( Not sure why, maybe the laws changed or something. It is crystal clear that I have to do it this time however. I think you're overreacting guys... I would first try and go to the nearest Canadian embassy and try to get the visa. I bet in most of the cases they will just issue it without any invitation letter and the like... if not, only then worry about it ;-) I'm also citizen from one of the countries (Romania) which require visas to most of the world (or it required, the situation's relaxing in this respect), and I never had any problems getting one. Or maybe it changed after 9/11 ? Cheers, Csaba. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
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Csaba Nagy wrote: Wow, this is a great deal of burden that for sure I didn't have to do last time :-( Not sure why, maybe the laws changed or something. It is crystal clear that I have to do it this time however. I think you're overreacting guys... I would first try and go to the nearest Canadian embassy and try to get the visa. I bet in most of the cases they will just issue it without any invitation letter and the like... if not, only then worry about it ;-) Yeah, you may be right, sorry. The .gc.ca page says updated 2004-02-17 so it must be the same page that was in place when I solicited the visa last year. However, the invitation letter was very simple, didn't include any of the confidential information, and actually it wasn't issued by a Canadian person at all! It was signed by the EnterpriseDB guys. -- Alvaro Herrerahttp://www.CommandPrompt.com/ PostgreSQL Replication, Consulting, Custom Development, 24x7 support ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
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Alvaro Herrera [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Christopher Browne wrote: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/letter.html Letter of Invitation for Countries Whose Citizens Require a Temporary Resident Visa to Enter Canada Wow, this is a great deal of burden that for sure I didn't have to do last time :-( Not sure why, maybe the laws changed or something. It is crystal clear that I have to do it this time however. Are you sure that Temporary Resident Visa is what you need? Isn't the regular visa people get called just a Guest Visa? -- greg ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
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A long time ago, in a galaxy far, far away, [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stark) wrote: Are you sure that Temporary Resident Visa is what you need? Isn't the regular visa people get called just a Guest Visa? That's possible too... It is probably a good idea to contact a local Canadian embassy to see what they think will be required. This may be tilting over windmills a bit. Checking early is still a good idea, after all, if you haven't got a passport, it may take some time to get that. -- output = (cbbrowne @ gmail.com) http://linuxdatabases.info/info/languages.html Python's minimalism is attractive to people who like minimalism. It is decidedly unattractive to people who see Python's minimalism as an exercise in masochism. -- Peter Hickman, comp.lang.ruby ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Peter, I'd need an invitation to get a visa. Is't possible ? Oleg On Wed, 1 Mar 2006, Peter Eisentraut wrote: PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit = Call for Contributions -- The PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit will take place on July 8 and 9, 2006, in Toronto, Canada. We are planning for a gathering of about 50 hackers, contributors, and other friends of the PostgreSQL project to celebrate the project's 10th anniversary, reflect on the work accomplished, establish new contacts, and plan for the future. The summit will feature speaker sessions, workshops, discussion groups, and social events. We are now looking for content proposals. Topics can include: - Development, how to and how not to - Features for the future (or of the past) - PostgreSQL-related research projects - Issues relating to the project's organization - PostgreSQL-related projects - Legal issues - Non-profit organizations - Advocacy, marketing - How to make PostgreSQL more appealing to $X - Business aspects - Other interesting event proposals such as discussions, contests, awards, question sessions, etc. will also be considered if you are prepared to organize them. There is considerable freedom in developing the program. Anything that is important to you, of interest to others, and of value to the project can be reasonable. But remember that this is a conference of PostgreSQL contributors, so user-level talks should normally not be submitted. Submissions and the actual sessions should be in English. Contributions should generally use time slots of 45 minutes, but feel free to specify otherwise if you have special requirements. We are also welcoming lightning talks of about 5 minutes. Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in free form, but include the following information: - your name - your e-mail address - title of your contribution - type of your contribution (talk, discussion, etc.) - abstract of up to 100 words (for publishing in the program) - extended description (for review by the organizers, not published) The deadline for submissions is March 31st. Speakers and other supporters of the conference program (exception: lightning talks) will be offered free registration. They will also be first in line to receive financial assistance, but we cannot guarantee any such thing at the moment, so be prepared to pay for your travel and accomodation. Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru), Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 1: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
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Chris Browne wrote: oleg@sai.msu.su (Oleg Bartunov) writes: I'd need an invitation to get a visa. Is't possible ? Certainty is difficult to promise, but there is a reasonable population of relevant people here such that invitations can be arranged. I suggest that everyone who needs invitations or other documentation, be it for arranging a visa or getting a day off work or whatever, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll work it out. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
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Just curious, but what is involved in these invitations? For instance, is there a limit on # of invitations any one person(?) or company can issue? Are there any legal implications of issuing such an invitation? I could imagine some pretty hot water if pre 9/11 someone were to invite bin Laden to a conference, and had the twin towers go down while he was here, for instance ... On Thu, 2 Mar 2006, Peter Eisentraut wrote: Chris Browne wrote: oleg@sai.msu.su (Oleg Bartunov) writes: I'd need an invitation to get a visa. Is't possible ? Certainty is difficult to promise, but there is a reasonable population of relevant people here such that invitations can be arranged. I suggest that everyone who needs invitations or other documentation, be it for arranging a visa or getting a day off work or whatever, write to [EMAIL PROTECTED] and we'll work it out. -- Peter Eisentraut http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: In versions below 8.0, the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match Marc G. Fournier Hub.Org Networking Services (http://www.hub.org) Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo!: yscrappy ICQ: 7615664 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
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Ühel kenal päeval, N, 2006-03-02 kell 15:35, kirjutas Marc G. Fournier: Just curious, but what is involved in these invitations? For instance, is there a limit on # of invitations any one person(?) or company can issue? Are there any legal implications of issuing such an invitation? Sure. The one who dares to invite anybody is called to an aeroport and strip-searched as well, legal or not. --- Hannu ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
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On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 11:51 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: The PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit will take place on July 8 and 9, 2006, in Toronto, Canada. We are planning for a gathering of about 50 hackers, contributors, and other friends of the PostgreSQL project to celebrate the project's 10th anniversary, reflect on the work accomplished, establish new contacts, and plan for the future. One thing I'd like to add: we're considering organizing a code sprint for the days immediately following the conference. This would be an opportunity for people interested in contributing to PostgreSQL to work together in the same (large) room. I'm hoping that some of the major contributors will be there, but anyone who's at the summit is welcome to join us. We'll have a bunch of planned projects to work on, but I'd encourage everyone to bring their own project ideas as well. You'll need your own laptop, or have someone you can pair program with. Before we go any farther organizing the sprint, I'd like to get an idea how much interest there is. If you're likely to attend the summit and would be interested in staying for the code sprint, please let me know. You should include you how many days you'd be interested in sprinting for (I'd like to do at least one day, and perhaps two). Thanks, Neil ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings
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Yea, sure I would like to attend. --- Neil Conway wrote: On Wed, 2006-03-01 at 11:51 +0100, Peter Eisentraut wrote: The PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit will take place on July 8 and 9, 2006, in Toronto, Canada. We are planning for a gathering of about 50 hackers, contributors, and other friends of the PostgreSQL project to celebrate the project's 10th anniversary, reflect on the work accomplished, establish new contacts, and plan for the future. One thing I'd like to add: we're considering organizing a code sprint for the days immediately following the conference. This would be an opportunity for people interested in contributing to PostgreSQL to work together in the same (large) room. I'm hoping that some of the major contributors will be there, but anyone who's at the summit is welcome to join us. We'll have a bunch of planned projects to work on, but I'd encourage everyone to bring their own project ideas as well. You'll need your own laptop, or have someone you can pair program with. Before we go any farther organizing the sprint, I'd like to get an idea how much interest there is. If you're likely to attend the summit and would be interested in staying for the code sprint, please let me know. You should include you how many days you'd be interested in sprinting for (I'd like to do at least one day, and perhaps two). Thanks, Neil ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: don't forget to increase your free space map settings -- Bruce Momjian http://candle.pha.pa.us SRA OSS, Inc. http://www.sraoss.com + If your life is a hard drive, Christ can be your backup. + ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
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FOlks, One thing I'd like to add: we're considering organizing a code sprint for the days immediately following the conference. To add further. There will probably be a code sprint AT the conference as well. Then Monday and Tuesday for an extended code sprint. We're still discussing it. -- --Josh Josh Berkus Aglio Database Solutions San Francisco ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
The world rejoiced as [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Marc G. Fournier) wrote: Just curious, but what is involved in these invitations? For instance, is there a limit on # of invitations any one person(?) or company can issue? Are there any legal implications of issuing such an invitation? I could imagine some pretty hot water if pre 9/11 someone were to invite bin Laden to a conference, and had the twin towers go down while he was here, for instance ... Here should be the authoritative information: http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/visas.html Countries/Territories Requiring Visas http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/letter.html Letter of Invitation for Countries Whose Citizens Require a Temporary Resident Visa to Enter Canada If an .se address implies Swedish citizenship, there's good news; Swedes don't need a visa to come to Canada. Ditto for pretty well all of Western Europe, all of North America (including Mexico), and Japan. I expect that most of those likely to need visas (and letters) will hearken from Eastern Europe or Asia. It's worth noting that whomever is providing that letter of invitation has to be prepared to send, to our foreign friends, a photocopy of our own Canadian birth certificate or some equivalent thereof. Not to say that this is *spectacularly* intimate information, but I daresay people would Not Be Pleased if such material got misused. There is some fairness there; the requirements are nicely laid out, and the intimacies go in both directions. The other pointy bit is that the letter of invitation needs to indicate the inviter's relationship to the person being invited. I expect that would need to be a tad more specific than merely he's some guy from Sweden that I heard about on the Internet... What this all implies is that these Letters of Invitation do indeed impose a certain degree of legal burden (whether highly formalized or not) such that I'm sure NOT going to be heading to the printers so I can send them out by the gross... -- (format nil [EMAIL PROTECTED] cbbrowne cbbrowne.com) http://linuxfinances.info/info/languages.html Once you accept that the world is a giant computer run by white mice, all other movies fade into insignificance. -- Mutsumi Takahashi ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 2: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
Christopher Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Letter of Invitation for Countries Whose Citizens Require a Temporary Resident Visa to Enter Canada I missed that this was happening up here in Canada. How exclusive is the guest list for this? Like, are you only expecting 50 top contributors by invitation only or is anyone who can make it welcome? What kind of costs are anticipated? -- greg ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stark) writes: Christopher Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Letter of Invitation for Countries Whose Citizens Require a Temporary Resident Visa to Enter Canada I missed that this was happening up here in Canada. How exclusive is the guest list for this? Like, are you only expecting 50 top contributors by invitation only or is anyone who can make it welcome? What kind of costs are anticipated? It's not intended to be punitively high priced, so as to keep it exclusive, but the more expensive you find it to travel to Toronto, the more you'll find it costs, naturally... I'll probably grouse about parking costs a bit, at some point, but I won't have a thousand dollar plane ticket to pay for, to be sure... ;-) I think there is some desire to have some amount of funding provided for travel/accomodations based on what can be raised thru SPI; that's certainly still a matter in flux. The answers aren't clear yet... -- let name=cbbrowne and tld=cbbrowne.com in String.concat @ [name;tld];; http://www3.sympatico.ca/cbbrowne/ Rules of the Evil Overlord #31. All naive, busty tavern wenches in my realm will be replaced with surly, world-weary waitresses who will provide no unexpected reinforcement and/or romantic subplot for the hero or his sidekick. http://www.eviloverlord.com/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 6: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
btw, how expensive is to go to the Niagara waterfall from Toronto ? I'd like to take an opportunity to see it. Oleg On Fri, 3 Mar 2006, Chris Browne wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Greg Stark) writes: Christopher Browne [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Letter of Invitation for Countries Whose Citizens Require a Temporary Resident Visa to Enter Canada I missed that this was happening up here in Canada. How exclusive is the guest list for this? Like, are you only expecting 50 top contributors by invitation only or is anyone who can make it welcome? What kind of costs are anticipated? It's not intended to be punitively high priced, so as to keep it exclusive, but the more expensive you find it to travel to Toronto, the more you'll find it costs, naturally... I'll probably grouse about parking costs a bit, at some point, but I won't have a thousand dollar plane ticket to pay for, to be sure... ;-) I think there is some desire to have some amount of funding provided for travel/accomodations based on what can be raised thru SPI; that's certainly still a matter in flux. The answers aren't clear yet... Regards, Oleg _ Oleg Bartunov, Research Scientist, Head of AstroNet (www.astronet.ru), Sternberg Astronomical Institute, Moscow University, Russia Internet: oleg@sai.msu.su, http://www.sai.msu.su/~megera/ phone: +007(495)939-16-83, +007(495)939-23-83 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faq
Re: [HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
On Fri, 3 Mar 2006 09:07:06 +0300 (MSK) Oleg Bartunov oleg@sai.msu.su wrote: how expensive is to go to the Niagara waterfall from Toronto ? I'd like to take an opportunity to see it. If you are driving, Niagara Falls is about one hour from Toronto. Cost is a tank of gas and parking. Looking at the falls is free. There are special tours like the Maid of the Mist (a boat that goes to the base of the falls) and a tour through the tunnels behind the falls which have some cost. Not a particularly expensive side trip. Those of us who live here should think about some entertainment possibilities. -- D'Arcy J.M. Cain darcy@druid.net | Democracy is three wolves http://www.druid.net/darcy/| and a sheep voting on +1 416 425 1212 (DoD#0082)(eNTP) | what's for dinner. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 4: Have you searched our list archives? http://archives.postgresql.org
[HACKERS] PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit, Call for Contributions
PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit = Call for Contributions -- The PostgreSQL Anniversary Summit will take place on July 8 and 9, 2006, in Toronto, Canada. We are planning for a gathering of about 50 hackers, contributors, and other friends of the PostgreSQL project to celebrate the project's 10th anniversary, reflect on the work accomplished, establish new contacts, and plan for the future. The summit will feature speaker sessions, workshops, discussion groups, and social events. We are now looking for content proposals. Topics can include: - Development, how to and how not to - Features for the future (or of the past) - PostgreSQL-related research projects - Issues relating to the project's organization - PostgreSQL-related projects - Legal issues - Non-profit organizations - Advocacy, marketing - How to make PostgreSQL more appealing to $X - Business aspects - Other interesting event proposals such as discussions, contests, awards, question sessions, etc. will also be considered if you are prepared to organize them. There is considerable freedom in developing the program. Anything that is important to you, of interest to others, and of value to the project can be reasonable. But remember that this is a conference of PostgreSQL contributors, so user-level talks should normally not be submitted. Submissions and the actual sessions should be in English. Contributions should generally use time slots of 45 minutes, but feel free to specify otherwise if you have special requirements. We are also welcoming lightning talks of about 5 minutes. Send submissions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] in free form, but include the following information: - your name - your e-mail address - title of your contribution - type of your contribution (talk, discussion, etc.) - abstract of up to 100 words (for publishing in the program) - extended description (for review by the organizers, not published) The deadline for submissions is March 31st. Speakers and other supporters of the conference program (exception: lightning talks) will be offered free registration. They will also be first in line to receive financial assistance, but we cannot guarantee any such thing at the moment, so be prepared to pay for your travel and accomodation. -- Peter Eisentraut on behalf of the conference team pgpgZV3YNX891.pgp Description: PGP signature
