Re: [HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU?

2004-12-22 Thread Hannu Krosing
Ühel kenal päeval (laupäev, 18. detsember 2004, 02:41+0100), kirjutas
Palle Girgensohn:
 
 --On torsdag, december 16, 2004 09.20.50 +0100 Peter Eisentraut 
 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
  Palle Girgensohn wrote:
  Not on FreeBSD, since collation is not implemented in unicode
  locales. One way would be to implement it in the OS, of course...
 
  Try taking the locale definition files from another system and use
  localedef to build locale files for your local system.  The localedef
  source files are supposed to be portable.
 
 As far as I understand, there is no code in FreeBSD to specify the 
 collating order for multibyte locales. Would ot be easier to fix the OS or 
 hack ICU into PostgreSQL?
 
 A bit off topic: I'm still dreaming of a way to get order by working with 
 different locales for the same database (different clients getting 
 different collation depending on their locale choice). Now this is 
 hardcoded at initdb time. Is there any way this could work, ever, in 
 PostgreSQL, or will I have to sort client side?

I guess you can write a function that returns something client-specific
and sort on that.

select weirdnames
  from namelist
 order by localesort(weirdnames, 'SE');

You can even build and index on localesort(weirdnames, 'SE') to speed
things up for some queries.

And yes, I think using ICU is the right way to do it ;)

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Hannu

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Re: [HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU?

2004-12-17 Thread Palle Girgensohn

--On torsdag, december 16, 2004 09.20.50 +0100 Peter Eisentraut 
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Palle Girgensohn wrote:
Not on FreeBSD, since collation is not implemented in unicode
locales. One way would be to implement it in the OS, of course...
Try taking the locale definition files from another system and use
localedef to build locale files for your local system.  The localedef
source files are supposed to be portable.
As far as I understand, there is no code in FreeBSD to specify the 
collating order for multibyte locales. Would ot be easier to fix the OS or 
hack ICU into PostgreSQL?

A bit off topic: I'm still dreaming of a way to get order by working with 
different locales for the same database (different clients getting 
different collation depending on their locale choice). Now this is 
hardcoded at initdb time. Is there any way this could work, ever, in 
PostgreSQL, or will I have to sort client side?

Regards,
Palle
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Re: [HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU?

2004-12-16 Thread Peter Eisentraut
Palle Girgensohn wrote:
 Not on FreeBSD, since collation is not implemented in unicode
 locales. One way would be to implement it in the OS, of course...

Try taking the locale definition files from another system and use 
localedef to build locale files for your local system.  The localedef 
source files are supposed to be portable.

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Peter Eisentraut
http://developer.postgresql.org/~petere/

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[HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU?

2004-12-15 Thread Palle Girgensohn
Hi!
I'm using Postgresql on FreeBSD, and would like to get order by to work 
with unicode. The OS does have collation implemented for unicode (UTF-8) 
locales. Some freebsd people point me towards IBM:s ICU kit.

How much effort would be required to get postgresql to sort properly, 
mainly using the sv_SE.UTF-8 locale (so the problem is not *that* hard, I 
don't need to sort Chinese [yet] :). What needs to be done to get 
postgresql to use ICU (or some other working mechanism?)

Thanks,
Palle

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Re: [HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU?

2004-12-15 Thread Tom Lane
Palle Girgensohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 I'm using Postgresql on FreeBSD, and would like to get order by to work 
 with unicode.

What makes you think it doesn't?  Use the right locale and you're set.

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] getting 'order by' working with unicode locale? ICU?

2004-12-15 Thread Palle Girgensohn
--On onsdag, december 15, 2004 23.21.13 -0500 Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
wrote:

Palle Girgensohn [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I'm using Postgresql on FreeBSD, and would like to get order by to
work  with unicode.
What makes you think it doesn't?  Use the right locale and you're set.
Not on FreeBSD, since collation is not implemented in unicode locales. One 
way would be to implement it in the OS, of course...

/Palle
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