[HACKERS] pg_hba.conf and secondary password file

2002-03-15 Thread Bruce Momjian

Right now, we support a secondary password file reference in
pg_hba.conf.

If the file contains only usernames, we assume that it is the list of
valid usernames for the connection.  If it contains usernames and
passwords, like /etc/passwd, we assume these are the passwords to be
used for the connection.  Such connections must pass the unencrypted
passwords over the wire so they can be matched against the file;
'password' encryption in pg_hba.conf.

Is it worth keeping this password capability in 7.3?  It requires
'password' in pg_hba.conf, which is not secure, and I am not sure how
many OS's still use crypt in /etc/passwd anyway.  Removing the feature
would clear up pg_hba.conf options a little.

The ability to specify usernames in pg_hba.conf or in a secondary file
is being added to pg_hba.conf anyway, so it is really only the password
part that we have to decide to keep or remove.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_hba.conf and secondary password file

2002-03-15 Thread Tom Lane

Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
 Right now, we support a secondary password file reference in
 pg_hba.conf.
 Is it worth keeping this password capability in 7.3?

I'd not cry if it went away.  We could get rid of pg_passwd, which
is an ugly mess...

regards, tom lane

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_hba.conf and secondary password file

2002-03-15 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Bruce Momjian writes:

 Is it worth keeping this password capability in 7.3?  It requires
 'password' in pg_hba.conf, which is not secure, and I am not sure how
 many OS's still use crypt in /etc/passwd anyway.  Removing the feature
 would clear up pg_hba.conf options a little.

Personally, I don't care.  But I'm concerned that some people might use
this to support different passwords for different databases.  Not sure why
you'd want that.  Maybe send an advisory to -general to see.

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Re: [HACKERS] pg_hba.conf and secondary password file

2002-03-15 Thread Bruce Momjian

Peter Eisentraut wrote:
 Bruce Momjian writes:
 
  Is it worth keeping this password capability in 7.3?  It requires
  'password' in pg_hba.conf, which is not secure, and I am not sure how
  many OS's still use crypt in /etc/passwd anyway.  Removing the feature
  would clear up pg_hba.conf options a little.
 
 Personally, I don't care.  But I'm concerned that some people might use
 this to support different passwords for different databases.  Not sure why
 you'd want that.  Maybe send an advisory to -general to see.

Yes, I will send to general.  I wanted to get feedback from hackers
first --- I will send now.

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