Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread Peter Eisentraut

Bruce Momjian writes:

 I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
 for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
 not appear?

I once again refer people to RFC 2369
http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html about how to embed email list
management information into messages.  Secondly, I would also tolerate the
"monthly reminders" that some list managers send out (e.g., GNU, Great
Bridge).  At the very least, though, the tips should be preceded by a
'dashdashspacenewline' sequence so that some mail readers can
strip them off in replies.

I filter out the tips anyway, so I really don't care a lot.

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:0 Bbf
| sed -n -e '/^---(end of 
|broadcast)---$/q' -e 'p'

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Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread Ian Lance Taylor

Tom Lane [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:

 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
  for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
  not appear?
 
 I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

I think the tips would be greatly enhanced if there was a 25% chance
that they included the output of the fortune program.

Ian

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Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker


oh, let me add that as a TIP :)

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Peter Eisentraut wrote:

 Bruce Momjian writes:

  I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
  for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
  not appear?

 I once again refer people to RFC 2369
 http://www.faqs.org/rfcs/rfc2369.html about how to embed email list
 management information into messages.  Secondly, I would also tolerate the
 "monthly reminders" that some list managers send out (e.g., GNU, Great
 Bridge).  At the very least, though, the tips should be preceded by a
 'dashdashspacenewline' sequence so that some mail readers can
 strip them off in replies.

 I filter out the tips anyway, so I really don't care a lot.

 # for procmail users
 :0 Bbf
 | sed -n -e '/^---(end of 
broadcast)---$/q' -e 'p'

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Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread Andrew McMillan

Bruce Momjian wrote:
 
 I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
 for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
 not appear?

What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there?  This would be
especially cute for -novice, I think.

We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
about PostgreSQL can't we?

Just a thought,
Andrew.
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Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

 Bruce Momjian wrote:
 
  I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
  for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
  not appear?

 What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there?  This would be
 especially cute for -novice, I think.

 We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
 about PostgreSQL can't we?

Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)




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RE: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread Mike Mascari

I like this idea too. How about TIP #1: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ;-)

Mike Mascari
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Sent:   Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:57 PM
To: Andrew McMillan
Cc: PostgreSQL-development
Subject:Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

 Bruce Momjian wrote:
 
  I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
  for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
  not appear?

 What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there?  This would be
 especially cute for -novice, I think.

 We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
 about PostgreSQL can't we?

Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)




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RE: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-06 Thread The Hermit Hacker


there, added ... and even gave an attribute to you :)

On Tue, 6 Mar 2001, Mike Mascari wrote:

 I like this idea too. How about TIP #1: Don't 'kill -9' the postmaster ;-)

 Mike Mascari
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 Sent: Tuesday, March 06, 2001 1:57 PM
 To:   Andrew McMillan
 Cc:   PostgreSQL-development
 Subject:  Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

 On Wed, 7 Mar 2001, Andrew McMillan wrote:

  Bruce Momjian wrote:
  
   I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
   for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
   not appear?
 
  What about having some basic _PostgreSQL_ tips in there?  This would be
  especially cute for -novice, I think.
 
  We must all be able to come up with 100 or so little one or two liners
  about PostgreSQL can't we?

 Since Peter has shown how easy it is to get rid of the TIPs for those that
 dont' like it, I think that's a cool idea :)




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Re: [HACKERS] mailing list messages

2001-03-05 Thread Bruce Momjian

 Bruce Momjian [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
  I wonder if the new Tips at the bottom of email messages can be enabled
  for users during their first 30 days of mailing list subscription, then
  not appear?
 
 I'm pretty durn tired of 'em, and it's not been 30 days yet ;-)

I hear you.

 A subscription option to turn 'em off seems sufficient, though.
 We don't need to automate the choice for people.

I figured it is a pain to have people do that when 95% of current users
don't need it now anyway because they have been around for 30 days.

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