Re: [HACKERS] Adding commit details to SGML release notes

2015-08-28 Thread Tom Lane
Bruce Momjian br...@momjian.us writes:
 On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 05:32:38PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Personally I find that truncated output to be pretty unreadable, and
 would strongly object to changing git_changelog so that that was the only
 possible format.  However, I have no objection to making it an option
 (git_changelog --short, or so), and that would dodge any concerns about
 failing on git versions without the feature.

 Well, my idea would be to change this git_changelog line:

   Branch: master [01051a987] 2015-07-09 11:38:34 +0300

 to output something in the new 'trunc' format, so we have it right next
 to the release note text and the release notes easily get that comment.

Right, I'm merely saying that I want the current format by default, and
the trunc format only with a command-line option.

regards, tom lane


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Re: [HACKERS] Adding commit details to SGML release notes

2015-08-28 Thread Andres Freund
On 2015-08-28 17:49:35 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
 If we _don't_ do that, how do you easily get those lines into the
 release notes?  I can't imagine how hard it was for Andres to add that
 text to the 9.5 release notes:

Formatting the log wasn't the hard part, that was finding out which item
in the release notes corresponds to which commits. Sometimes that's not
that easy to see. For the formatting I had an emacs macro.

Greetings,

Andres Freund


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Re: [HACKERS] Adding commit details to SGML release notes

2015-08-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Sat, Aug 29, 2015 at 12:23:30AM +0200, Andres Freund wrote:
 On 2015-08-28 17:49:35 -0400, Bruce Momjian wrote:
  If we _don't_ do that, how do you easily get those lines into the
  release notes?  I can't imagine how hard it was for Andres to add that
  text to the 9.5 release notes:
 
 Formatting the log wasn't the hard part, that was finding out which item
 in the release notes corresponds to which commits. Sometimes that's not
 that easy to see. For the formatting I had an emacs macro.

Right, the formatting is easy with any good editor, but having the text
there as you are writing the release notes is a huge time-saver, and if
we want that text, it should be present in the git_changelog output when
creating those release notes.

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Re: [HACKERS] Adding commit details to SGML release notes

2015-08-28 Thread Alvaro Herrera
Bruce Momjian wrote:

 To simplify the creation of the release note with the commit tag as an
 SGML comment, I think src/tools/git_changelog should be modified to
 output this string.  The format trunc feature was added in git 1.8.3. 
 Is that old enough for everyone?

Hmm, that's pretty new actually,

commit edca4152560522a431a51fc0a06147fc680b5b18
Author: Junio C Hamano gits...@pobox.com
AuthorDate: Fri May 24 11:34:46 2013 -0700
CommitDate: Fri May 24 11:34:46 2013 -0700

Git 1.8.3


Since it's only needed by people preparing the release notes, I would
guess it's okay --- evidently Tom was able to use it.

Maybe an option is to use trunc when git 1.8.3 or newer is detected, and
plain (no trunc) otherwise?

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Re: [HACKERS] Adding commit details to SGML release notes

2015-08-28 Thread Tom Lane
Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
 Bruce Momjian wrote:
 To simplify the creation of the release note with the commit tag as an
 SGML comment, I think src/tools/git_changelog should be modified to
 output this string.  The format trunc feature was added in git 1.8.3. 
 Is that old enough for everyone?

 Since it's only needed by people preparing the release notes, I would
 guess it's okay --- evidently Tom was able to use it.

Well, that's only because I'm running a hand-installed git rather than
what RHEL6 comes with.

 Maybe an option is to use trunc when git 1.8.3 or newer is detected, and
 plain (no trunc) otherwise?

Personally I find that truncated output to be pretty unreadable, and
would strongly object to changing git_changelog so that that was the only
possible format.  However, I have no objection to making it an option
(git_changelog --short, or so), and that would dodge any concerns about
failing on git versions without the feature.

regards, tom lane


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Re: [HACKERS] Adding commit details to SGML release notes

2015-08-28 Thread Bruce Momjian
On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 05:32:38PM -0400, Tom Lane wrote:
 Alvaro Herrera alvhe...@2ndquadrant.com writes:
  Bruce Momjian wrote:
  To simplify the creation of the release note with the commit tag as an
  SGML comment, I think src/tools/git_changelog should be modified to
  output this string.  The format trunc feature was added in git 1.8.3. 
  Is that old enough for everyone?
 
  Since it's only needed by people preparing the release notes, I would
  guess it's okay --- evidently Tom was able to use it.
 
 Well, that's only because I'm running a hand-installed git rather than
 what RHEL6 comes with.

Yes, I am running git 1.7.2.5 on Debian Squeeze, but I will be upgrading
in the next month, before the next major release notes are due, so I
would avoid the problem that way.  :-)

  Maybe an option is to use trunc when git 1.8.3 or newer is detected, and
  plain (no trunc) otherwise?
 
 Personally I find that truncated output to be pretty unreadable, and
 would strongly object to changing git_changelog so that that was the only
 possible format.  However, I have no objection to making it an option
 (git_changelog --short, or so), and that would dodge any concerns about
 failing on git versions without the feature.

Well, my idea would be to change this git_changelog line:

Branch: master [01051a987] 2015-07-09 11:38:34 +0300

to output something in the new 'trunc' format, so we have it right next
to the release note text and the release notes easily get that comment.

If we _don't_ do that, how do you easily get those lines into the
release notes?  I can't imagine how hard it was for Andres to add that
text to the 9.5 release notes:


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