Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC.
I have applied a patch to fix the issues mentioned below. Thanks. --- Karel Zak wrote: On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 01:12:08AM -0800, Dann Corbit wrote: There is no zero calendar year. The first year of Anno Domini is 1. It's ordinal, not cardinal. I agree. But the follow quoted code is not use in date_part() there Kurt found bug. It's used in to_timestamp() _only_, and it works, because tm2timestamp() and date2j() work with zero year. Is there connection between formatting.c and date_part() ? I don't think so... In backend/utils/adt/formatting.c: if (tmfc.bc) { if (tm-tm_year 0) tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1); ... tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1) is used for: # select to_timestamp('0001/01/01 BC', '/MM/DD AD'); to_timestamp 0001-01-01 00:00:00 BC and it's OK. I think a bug is somewhere in timestamp2tm() which used in next examples and it's shared between more functions: # select to_char('0001-01-01 BC'::date, '/MM/DD AD'); to_char --- /01/01 AD # SELECT EXTRACT(YEAR from '0001-01-01 BC'::date); date_part --- 0 Karel -- Karel Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.zf.jcu.cz/~zakkr/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend
Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC.
On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 02:11:20PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I find this a little strange: select date_part('year', '0002-01-01 BC'::date); date_part --- -1 It seems 1 BC and 0 are the same year. Is there connection between formatting.c and date_part() ? I don't think so... In backend/utils/adt/formatting.c: if (tmfc.bc) { if (tm-tm_year 0) tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1); It this normal or a bug? I think this code is OK, butg is somethere in extract (date_part) code. test=# select to_date('0020-01-10 BC'::text, '-MM-DD BC'); to_date --- 0020-01-10 BC (1 dka) test=# select to_date('0020-01-10 AD'::text, '-MM-DD BC'); to_date 0020-01-10 test=# select to_char('0020-01-10 BC'::date, '-MM-DD AD'); to_char --- 0020-01-10 BC Karel -- Karel Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.zf.jcu.cz/~zakkr/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html
Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC.
There is no zero calendar year. The first year of Anno Domini is 1. It's ordinal, not cardinal. -Original Message- From: Karel Zak [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 19, 2003 12:04 AM To: Kurt Roeckx Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC. On Thu, Dec 18, 2003 at 02:11:20PM +0100, Kurt Roeckx wrote: I find this a little strange: select date_part('year', '0002-01-01 BC'::date); date_part --- -1 It seems 1 BC and 0 are the same year. Is there connection between formatting.c and date_part() ? I don't think so... In backend/utils/adt/formatting.c: if (tmfc.bc) { if (tm-tm_year 0) tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1); It this normal or a bug? I think this code is OK, butg is somethere in extract (date_part) code. test=# select to_date('0020-01-10 BC'::text, '-MM-DD BC'); to_date --- 0020-01-10 BC (1 dka) test=# select to_date('0020-01-10 AD'::text, '-MM-DD BC'); to_date 0020-01-10 test=# select to_char('0020-01-10 BC'::date, '-MM-DD AD'); to_char --- 0020-01-10 BC Karel -- Karel Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.zf.jcu.cz/~zakkr/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 5: Have you checked our extensive FAQ? http://www.postgresql.org/docs/faqs/FAQ.html ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC.
On Fri, Dec 19, 2003 at 01:12:08AM -0800, Dann Corbit wrote: There is no zero calendar year. The first year of Anno Domini is 1. It's ordinal, not cardinal. I agree. But the follow quoted code is not use in date_part() there Kurt found bug. It's used in to_timestamp() _only_, and it works, because tm2timestamp() and date2j() work with zero year. Is there connection between formatting.c and date_part() ? I don't think so... In backend/utils/adt/formatting.c: if (tmfc.bc) { if (tm-tm_year 0) tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1); ... tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1) is used for: # select to_timestamp('0001/01/01 BC', '/MM/DD AD'); to_timestamp 0001-01-01 00:00:00 BC and it's OK. I think a bug is somewhere in timestamp2tm() which used in next examples and it's shared between more functions: # select to_char('0001-01-01 BC'::date, '/MM/DD AD'); to_char --- /01/01 AD # SELECT EXTRACT(YEAR from '0001-01-01 BC'::date); date_part --- 0 Karel -- Karel Zak [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://home.zf.jcu.cz/~zakkr/ ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 3: if posting/reading through Usenet, please send an appropriate subscribe-nomail command to [EMAIL PROTECTED] so that your message can get through to the mailing list cleanly
Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC.
Kurt Roeckx wrote: I find this a little strange: select date_part('year', '0002-01-01 BC'::date); date_part --- -1 It seems 1 BC and 0 are the same year. In backend/utils/adt/formatting.c: if (tmfc.bc) { if (tm-tm_year 0) tm-tm_year = -(tm-tm_year - 1); It this normal or a bug? Uh, well, yea, there was no year 0. However, it seems we should return the proper year. My guess is that missing year 0 is the cause, and there are certain reasons year 2 BC should return -1. If you are subtracting dates, like 32AD - 4BC, you get 35, which is the proper number of years spanned. I am not sure what is the proper answer. I thought date_part just grabbed parts of the date like it says, but obviously not, and there are some good reasons for it, I guess. -- Bruce Momjian| http://candle.pha.pa.us [EMAIL PROTECTED] | (610) 359-1001 + If your life is a hard drive, | 13 Roberts Road + Christ can be your backup.| Newtown Square, Pennsylvania 19073 ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 9: the planner will ignore your desire to choose an index scan if your joining column's datatypes do not match
Re: [HACKERS] Dates BC.
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you wrote: I find this a little strange: select date_part('year', '0002-01-01 BC'::date); date_part --- -1 It seems 1 BC and 0 are the same year. There is an unresolveable legacy problem here, in that Brahmagupta did not yet invent the mathematical concept of 0 until ~ 598 CE, by which time the Roman Empire had fallen (depending on whether you believe it actually fell). We'll just have to live with some weirdness on this one. :) Cheers, D -- David Fetter [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://fetter.org/ phone: +1 510 893 6100cell: +1 415 235 3778 This is my .sig. There are many like it, but this one is mine. ---(end of broadcast)--- TIP 8: explain analyze is your friend