Re: [JDBC] Re: [Fwd: JDBC Timestamp problem]

2001-02-23 Thread Antonio Fiol

Peter T Mount wrote:

 Quoting Antonio Fiol [EMAIL PROTECTED]:

  Joseph Shraibman wrote:
 
   jdbc version don't follow postgres versions, so the jdbc drivers from
   the 7.1 codebase should work with a 7.0 server.  Provided there
  aren't any bugs in those jdbc drivers, of course.  Why are you using 7.0
  when 7.0.3 is out?  I think some of the timestamp problems were fixed in
   7.0.3.

 I can't guarantee that 7.1 will work with 7.0. 99% of it will do but some
 MetaData methods will not because they use features only present in 7.1 (ie
 inner/outer joins). What's in CVS will do, but I have those changes ready to
 commit.

 [Before anyone asks, these should throw an SQLException which is the correct
 way to handle this under the JDBC Spec ;-) ]

 In general the JDBC driver should work with at least the previous version, but
 it does try to stay inline with the current version (which is why I keep a
 binary copy of previous versions on the web site.

  In fact, what I downloaded was the RedHat RPMs for 7.0.3-2.

 There were still Timestamp bugs in 7.0.3. Hopefully they are gone in 7.1

Is 7.1 stable enough for a production environment. In fact, I am changing from 6.5
to a newer version because 6.5 tends to break some tables (bits moved over the end
of the world, or something alike) and some indexes tend to become out of order.

Our environment has about 500 tables with 0.5K~2M tuples (about 1Gb of data, by
the moment) and data loss is critical.



 Yes, there's been a lot of problems with timestamps, mainly where
  it was
 getting confused with timezone/millisecond variations. 99% of
  these have been
 fixed in the 7.1 driver.

 (I say 99% as there is bound to be a senario we've missed out ;-)
  )

 Peter
   
I downloaded the 7.0 three days ago
   
Is there an RPM for the 7.1 stuff?
 
  I reiterate my question: Are there RPM packages for the 7.1 driver? If
  so, where can I find them?

 I'm not sure about the current 7.1beta's. However, I've not put up a 7.1 .jar
 file (all that's needed really) for the betas as things have been a bit fast of
 late. I'll put a current beta on the web site over the weekend.

Beta... I see... (previous question...)


  Thank you all for your help! Your support is much better than that of
  IBM DB2 or Oracle.

 I'm slowly discovering that our JDBC driver seems to support more JDBC than
 Oracle's does (or appears). I've been playing with Oracle8i since starting this
 job two months ago, and it's been amazing what we can do that it can't
 (Inner/Outer joins for a start) ;-)

Yes, and if you make a default install, and then create a database and try to
INSERT about 5K times then COMMIT, and you repeat this operation several times, it
crashes. Performance did not seem that better to me once this problem was solved,
etc...

I was REALLY SERIOUSLY considering to switch to a commercial product like Oracle
or DB2, but if I get good results by upgrading PostgreSQL, I will certainly keep
it. I might even try to convince my boss that a little logo of PostgreSQL on our
home page would not harm anybody...

Could you mail me with the URLs when you upload them? I will be happy to test it!!

Antonio Fiol

 Peter

  Thanks again!
 
  Antonio Fiol
 
 
Should I install all of the 7.1 packages, or should the JDBC driver
  be enough?
   
If all of them are necessary, must I recreate my database, or can I
  upgrade
cleanly, without touching to my data ?
   
Thank you for answering that quickly 
   
Antonio Fiol
W3ping
  
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   Joseph Shraibman
   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Increase signal to noise ratio.  http://www.targabot.com
 
 

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[JDBC] Re: [Fwd: JDBC Timestamp problem]

2001-02-22 Thread Joseph Shraibman

jdbc version don't follow postgres versions, so the jdbc drivers from
the 7.1 codebase should work with a 7.0 server.  Provided there aren't
any bugs in those jdbc drivers, of course.  Why are you using 7.0 when
7.0.3 is out?  I think some of the timestamp problems were fixed in
7.0.3.

Antonio Fiol wrote:
 
 Sorry, I sent the message to Peter only...
 
   
 
 Subject: Re: [JDBC] JDBC Timestamp problem
 Date: Thu, 22 Feb 2001 18:08:55 +0100
 From: Antonio Fiol [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Organization: w3ping
 To: Peter T Mount [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 References: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 
  Yes, there's been a lot of problems with timestamps, mainly where it was
  getting confused with timezone/millisecond variations. 99% of these have been
  fixed in the 7.1 driver.
 
  (I say 99% as there is bound to be a senario we've missed out ;-) )
 
  Peter
 
 I downloaded the 7.0 three days ago
 
 Is there an RPM for the 7.1 stuff?
 
 Should I install all of the 7.1 packages, or should the JDBC driver be enough?
 
 If all of them are necessary, must I recreate my database, or can I upgrade
 cleanly, without touching to my data ?
 
 Thank you for answering that quickly 
 
 Antonio Fiol
 W3ping

-- 
Joseph Shraibman
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Increase signal to noise ratio.  http://www.targabot.com