Re: Gained %20 performance after disabling bitmapscan

2018-10-26 Thread Jeff Janes
On Mon, Oct 22, 2018 at 3:20 AM Yavuz Selim Sertoglu <
yavuzselim.serto...@medyasoft.com.tr> wrote:

> Thanks for the reply Jeff,
>
> I know 20ms is nothing but it shows me that there is a problem with my
> configuration. I want to find it.
>

This is a dangerous assumption.  This is no configuration you can come up
with which will cause the planner to be within 20% of perfection in all
cases.  Given the other plans you've shown and discussed, I think this is
just chasing our own tail.

Cheers,

Jeff

>


Re: Gained %20 performance after disabling bitmapscan

2018-10-19 Thread Jeff Janes
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 3:19 AM Yavuz Selim Sertoglu <
yavuzselim.serto...@medyasoft.com.tr> wrote:

> Hi all,
>
> I have a problem with my query. Query always using parallel bitmap heap
> scan. I've created an index with all where conditions and id but query does
> not this index and continue to use bitmapscan. So I decided disable bitmap
> scan for testing. And after that, things became strange. Cost is higher,
> execution time is lower.
>

A 20% difference in speed is unlikely to make or break you.  Is it even
worth worrying about?


> But I want to use index_only_scan because index have all column that query
> need. No need to access table.
>

Your table is not very well vacuumed, so there is need to access it (9010
times to get 6115 rows, which seems like quite an anti-feat; but I don't
know which of those numbers are averaged over loops/parallel workers,
versus summed over them). Vacuuming your table will not only make the
index-only scan look faster to the planner, but also actually be faster.

The difference in timing could easily be down to one query warming the
cache for the other.  Are these timings fully reproducible altering
execution orders back and forth?  And they have different degrees of
parallelism, what happens if you disable parallelism to simplify the
analysis?


> It is doing index_only_scan when disabling bitmap scan but I cannot
> disable bitmap scan for cluster wide. There are other queries...
> Can you help me to solve the issue?
>
>
Cranking up effective_cache_size can make index scans look better in
comparison to bitmap scans, without changing a lot of other stuff.  This
still holds even for index-only-scan, in cases where the planner knows the
table to be poorly vacuumed.

But moving the column tested for inequality to the end of the index would
be probably make much more of  a difference, regardless of which plan it
chooses.

Cheers,

Jeff

>


Re: Gained %20 performance after disabling bitmapscan

2018-10-19 Thread Vladimir Ryabtsev
Yavuz, cannot add much to other points but as for index-only scan, an
(auto)vacuum must be run in order to optimizer understand it can utilize
index-only scan. Please check if autovacuum was run on the table after
index creation and if no, run it manually.

Vlad


Re: Gained %20 performance after disabling bitmapscan

2018-10-19 Thread Tom Lane
Yavuz Selim Sertoglu  writes:
> I have a problem with my query. Query always using parallel bitmap heap scan.

Have you messed with the parallel cost parameters?  It seems a bit
surprising that this query wants to use parallelism at all.

> Index Cond: (((mukellef_id)::text = '0123456789'::text) AND 
> (kayit_tarihi >= '2018-01-01 00:00:00'::timestamp without time zone) AND 
> (sube_no = '-13'::integer) AND ((defter)::text = 'sm'::text))

If that's your normal query pattern, then this isn't a very good
index design:

> Column|Type |  Definition
> --+-+--
>  mukellef_id  | character varying(12)   | mukellef_id
>  kayit_tarihi | timestamp without time zone | kayit_tarihi
>  sube_no  | integer | sube_no
>  defter   | character varying(4)| defter
>  id   | bigint  | id

The column order should be mukellef_id, sube_no, defter, kayit_tarihi, id
so that the index entries you want are adjacent in the index.

Of course, if you have other queries using this index, you might need
to leave it as-is --- but this is the query you're complaining about...

regards, tom lane



Re: Gained %20 performance after disabling bitmapscan

2018-10-19 Thread Justin Pryzby
On Fri, Oct 19, 2018 at 07:19:12AM +, Yavuz Selim Sertoglu wrote:
> I have a problem with my query. Query always using parallel bitmap heap scan. 
> I've created an index with all where conditions and id but query does not 
> this index and continue to use bitmapscan. So I decided disable bitmap scan 
> for testing. And after that, things became strange. Cost is higher, execution 
> time is lower.
> But I want to use index_only_scan because index have all column that query 
> need. No need to access table.
> It is doing index_only_scan when disabling bitmap scan but I cannot disable 
> bitmap scan for cluster wide. There are other queries...

My first comment is that bitmap IOS is supported on PG11, which was
released..yesterday:

https://www.postgresql.org/docs/11/static/release-11.html
|Allow bitmap scans to perform index-only scans when possible (Alexander 
Kuzmenkov)

Also, I wonder whether parallel query is helping here or hurting (SET
max_parallel_workers_per_gather=0)?  If it's hurting, should you adjust cost
parameters or perhaps disable it globally ?

Justin