[PERFORM] slower with the time

2003-07-01 Thread Juraj Porada
I insert data every second in my table. Every minute I delete from the 
table some row to keep max 1 rows in the table.
At the beginning deletes consume about 20% CPU time. After 24 houts 
every delete needs up tu 100% CPU time (updates too).
Vacuuming doesn't help.
After I restart postmaster, it works again very quick.
Any ideas?

Thanks,
Juraj
Delete query:

DELETE FROM tbl
WHERE time_stamp = 0.0 AND
time_stamp  (SELECT max(time_stamp)
FROM (SELECT time_stamp
   FROM tbl ORDER BY time_stamp, 
id_event_archive ASC LIMIT 222) AS t)

PK: id_event_archive
Index: time_stamp
Postgres version: 7.3.3.
OS: Solaris 2.8


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Re: [PERFORM] Version 7 question

2003-07-01 Thread Robert Treat
On Tue, 2003-07-01 at 08:10, Hilary Forbes wrote:
 I'm just trying to improve performance on version 7 before doing some
tests and hopefully upgrading to 7.3.
 
 At the moment we have 
 B=64  (no  of shared buffers)
 N=32 (no of connections)
 in postmaster.opt which I take it is the equivalent of the new
postgresql.conf file.
 
  From all that is being written about later versions I suspect that
this is far too low.  Would I be fairly safe in making the no of shared
buffers larger?  

yes, I'd say start with about 25% of RAM, then adjust from there. If 25%
takes you over your SHMMAX then start at your SHMMAX. 

Also is there an equivalent of effective_cache_size that I can set for
version 7?
 

If by 7 your mean 7.0.x then I don't believe so, been awhile though, I
could be wrong.  IMHO no amount of tuning you can do in 7.0 would be as
effective as an upgrade, after setting your shared buffers up, I'd put
your efforts into upgrading. (Note Beta test for 7.4 starts in 2 weeks) 

Robert Treat
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[PERFORM] Effective Cache Size

2003-07-01 Thread Howard Oblowitz
Thanks.

Some theoretical questions.

The documentation says that Effective Cache Size sets the optimizer's
assumption
about the effective size of the disk cache ( that is, the portion of the
kernel's disk 
cache that will be used for PostgreSQL data files ).

What then will be the effect of setting this too high?

And too low?

How does it impact on other applications eg Java ?


 -Original Message-
 From: scott.marlowe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Sent: 01 July 2003 03:20
 To:   Howard Oblowitz
 Cc:   [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject:  Re: FW: [PERFORM] Version 7 question
 
 The best way to set it is to let the machine run under normal load for a 
 while, then look at the cache / buffer usage using top (or some other 
 program, top works fine for this).
 
 My server with 1.5 gig ram shows 862328K cache right now.  So, just divide
 
 by page size (usually 8192) and I get ~ 100,000 blocks.
 
 On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Howard Oblowitz wrote:
 
  What would be the best value range for effective_cache_size
  on Postgres 7.3.2, assuming say 1.5 GB of RAM and
  shared_buffers set to 8192, and shmmax set to 750mb?
  
  And what are the most important factors one should take
  into account in determining the value?
  
  
  
   -Original Message-
   From: scott.marlowe [SMTP:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Sent: 01 July 2003 02:56
   To:   Michael Mattox
   Cc:   Hilary Forbes; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
   Subject:  Re: [PERFORM] Version 7 question
   
   8192 is only 64 megs of RAM, not much, but a good number.  Keep in
 mind 
   that the kernel tends to be better at buffering huge amounts of disk, 
   while postgresql is better left to use buffers that are large enough
 for 
   the current working set (i.e. not your whole database, just the
 largest 
   amount of data you're slinging about on a regular basis in one query.)
   
   On a machine with 1.5 gig of RAM, I've found settings as high as 32768
 
   (256 megs of ram) to run well, but anything over that doesn't help.
 Of 
   course, we don't toss around more than a hundred meg or so at a time.
 If
   
   our result sets were in the gigabyte range, I'd A: want more memory
 and B:
   
   Give more of it to postgresql.
   
   The original poster was, I believe running 7.0.x, which is way old, so
 no,
   
   I don't think there was an equivalent of effective_cache_size in that 
   version.  Upgrading would be far easier than performance tuning 7.0.
 since
   
   the query planner was much simpler (i.e. more prone to make bad
 decisions)
   
   in 7.0.
   
   On Tue, 1 Jul 2003, Michael Mattox wrote:
   
I have my shared buffers at 8192 and my effective cache at 64000
 (which
   is
500 megs).  Depends a lot on how much RAM you have.  I have 1.5 gigs
 and
I've been asking my boss for another 512megs for over a month now.
 I
   have
no idea if my buffers are too high/low.

Michael

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 [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hilary
 Forbes
 Sent: Tuesday, July 01, 2003 2:10 PM
 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Subject: [PERFORM] Version 7 question


 I'm just trying to improve performance on version 7 before doing
 some tests and hopefully upgrading to 7.3.

 At the moment we have
 B=64  (no  of shared buffers)
 N=32 (no of connections)
 in postmaster.opt which I take it is the equivalent of the new
 postgresql.conf file.

  From all that is being written about later versions I suspect
 that this is far too low.  Would I be fairly safe in making the
 no of shared buffers larger?  Also is there an equivalent of
 effective_cache_size that I can set for version 7?

 Many thanks in advance
 Hilary




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