Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread PFC


2. Oracle, Microsoft, and IBM have a lot to fear in the sense of a  
database like PostgreSQL. We can compete in 90-95% of cases where people  
would traditionally purchase a proprietary system for many, many  
thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of dollars.


	Oracle also fears benchmarks made by people who don't know how to tune  
Oracle properly...


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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread Joshua D. Drake

PFC wrote:


2. Oracle, Microsoft, and IBM have a lot to fear in the sense of a 
database like PostgreSQL. We can compete in 90-95% of cases where 
people would traditionally purchase a proprietary system for many, 
many thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of dollars.


Oracle also fears benchmarks made by people who don't know how to 
tune Oracle properly...


Yes that is one argument that is made (and a valid one) but it is 
assuredly not the only one that can be made, that would be legitimate.


Joshua D. Drake




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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread Andreas Kostyrka
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PFC wrote:
 
 2. Oracle, Microsoft, and IBM have a lot to fear in the sense of a
 database like PostgreSQL. We can compete in 90-95% of cases where
 people would traditionally purchase a proprietary system for many,
 many thousands (if not hundreds of thousands) of dollars.
 
 Oracle also fears benchmarks made by people who don't know how to
 tune Oracle properly...

Well, bad results are as interesting as good results. And this problems
applies to all other databases.

Andreas
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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew Sullivan
All,

On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 07:50:22PM +0200, Andreas Kostyrka wrote:

[something]

It would appear that this was the flame-fest that was predicted. 
Particularly as this has been copied to five lists.  If you all want
to have an argument about what Oracle should or should not do, could
you at least limit it to one list?

A

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread Jonah H. Harris

On 6/18/07, Andrew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

It would appear that this was the flame-fest that was predicted.
Particularly as this has been copied to five lists.  If you all want
to have an argument about what Oracle should or should not do, could
you at least limit it to one list?


Yeah, Josh B. asked it to be toned down to the original list which
should've been involved.  Which I think should be pgsql-admin or
pgsql-advocacy... your thoughts?

I think the Oracle discussion is over, David T. just needs URL references IMHO.

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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:16:56PM -0400, Jonah H. Harris wrote:
 pgsql-advocacy... your thoughts?

I've picked -advocacy.

 
 I think the Oracle discussion is over, David T. just needs URL references 
 IMHO.

I don't think we can speak about Oracle; if we were licenced, we'd be
violating it, and since we're not, we can't possibly know about it,
right ;-)  But there are some materials about why to use Postgres on
the website:

http://www.postgresql.org/about/advantages

A


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Re: [GENERAL] [pgsql-advocacy] [PERFORM] [ADMIN] Postgres VS Oracle

2007-06-18 Thread Andrew Sullivan
On Mon, Jun 18, 2007 at 02:38:32PM -0400, Andrew Sullivan wrote:
 I've picked -advocacy.

Actually, I _had_ picked advocacy, but had an itchy trigger finger. 
Apologies, all.

A

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