[PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0

2008-03-13 Thread Glyn Astill
Hi chaps,

I'm looking at switching out the perc5i (lsi megaraid) cards from our
Dell 2950s for something else as they're crap at raid 10.

Thing is I'm not entirely sure where to start, we're using 6 SAS
drives and also need a bbu cache. The perc5i has 256mb which I'm sure
would be fine for us.

We're using debian etch 64 bit.

What cards have you lot had success with?

Any tips would be appreciated.


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Re: [PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0

2008-03-13 Thread Guillaume Smet
Glyn,

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Glyn Astill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
  I'm looking at switching out the perc5i (lsi megaraid) cards from our
  Dell 2950s for something else as they're crap at raid 10.

Do you have numbers? Perc 5/i cards perform quite well for us (we have
a 8 disks RAID 10 in a 2900 server with the traditional Perc 5/i).

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Re: [PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0

2008-03-13 Thread Glyn Astill
Bonie++ benchmarks below.

I believe the the Perc 5/i Raid 10 mode is actually a span of mirrors, rather 
than the expected stripe of mirrors we should expect from 1+0, and that this is 
the reason for the shitty performance.


RAID 5
==
Version  1.03   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random-
-Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
way5a32096M 55354  97 201375  59 109586  23 59934  97 427541  33 767.9  
 1
--Sequential Create-- Random Create
-Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
 16 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
way5a,32096M,55354,97,201375,59,109586,23,59934,97,427541,33,767.9,1,16,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++

RAID 10
===
Version  1.03   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random-
-Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
Way5a32096M 53479  99 131640  33 66718  10 58225  95 339287  25 699.1   
1
--Sequential Create-- Random Create
-Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
 16 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
Way5a,32096M,53479,99,131640,33,66718,10,58225,95,339287,25,699.1,1,16,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++


- Original Message 
 From: Guillaume Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 To: Glyn Astill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
 Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
 Sent: Thursday, 13 March, 2008 3:58:41 PM
 Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0
 
 Glyn,
 
 On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Glyn Astill wrote:
  I'm looking at switching out the perc5i (lsi megaraid) cards from our
  Dell 2950s for something else as they're crap at raid 10.
 
 Do you have numbers? Perc 5/i cards perform quite well for us (we have
 a 8 disks RAID 10 in a 2900 server with the traditional Perc 5/i).
 
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Re: [PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0

2008-03-13 Thread Leigh Dyer

Glyn Astill wrote:

Bonie++ benchmarks below.

I believe the the Perc 5/i Raid 10 mode is actually a span of mirrors, rather 
than the expected stripe of mirrors we should expect from 1+0, and that this is 
the reason for the shitty performance.



Could you build three RAID-1 mirrors on the device, and then stripe that 
using software RAID-0?


Thanks
Leigh



RAID 5
==
Version  1.03   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random-
-Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
way5a32096M 55354  97 201375  59 109586  23 59934  97 427541  33 767.9  
 1
--Sequential Create-- Random Create
-Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
 16 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
way5a,32096M,55354,97,201375,59,109586,23,59934,97,427541,33,767.9,1,16,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++

RAID 10
===
Version  1.03   --Sequential Output-- --Sequential Input- --Random-
-Per Chr- --Block-- -Rewrite- -Per Chr- --Block-- --Seeks--
MachineSize K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP K/sec %CP  /sec %CP
Way5a32096M 53479  99 131640  33 66718  10 58225  95 339287  25 699.1   
1
--Sequential Create-- Random Create
-Create-- --Read--- -Delete-- -Create-- --Read--- -Delete--
  files  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP  /sec %CP
 16 + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++ + +++
Way5a,32096M,53479,99,131640,33,66718,10,58225,95,339287,25,699.1,1,16,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++,+,+++


- Original Message 

From: Guillaume Smet [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Glyn Astill [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: pgsql-performance@postgresql.org
Sent: Thursday, 13 March, 2008 3:58:41 PM
Subject: Re: [PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0

Glyn,

On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 1:33 PM, Glyn Astill wrote:

I'm looking at switching out the perc5i (lsi megaraid) cards from our
Dell 2950s for something else as they're crap at raid 10.

Do you have numbers? Perc 5/i cards perform quite well for us (we have
a 8 disks RAID 10 in a 2900 server with the traditional Perc 5/i).

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Re: [PERFORM] Recomendations on raid controllers raid 1+0

2008-03-13 Thread Scott Marlowe
On Thu, Mar 13, 2008 at 5:14 PM, Leigh Dyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Glyn Astill wrote:
   Bonie++ benchmarks below.
  
   I believe the the Perc 5/i Raid 10 mode is actually a span of mirrors, 
 rather than the expected stripe of mirrors we should expect from 1+0, and 
 that this is the reason for the shitty performance.
  

  Could you build three RAID-1 mirrors on the device, and then stripe that
  using software RAID-0?

That can be a useful option.  You'd have to test it on your setup, but
RAID-0 is dead simple, so letting the kernel handle the RAID-0 part is
pretty low cost.  Especially if you've got lots of CPU power, like
many of today's servers.

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