Re: [PERFORM] SELECT DISTINCT Performance Issue

2005-06-08 Thread George Essig
On 6/8/05, K C Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Both keys are text fields. Does it make any difference if PlayerID were
> integer?
> 

It can make a difference in speed and integrity.  If the column is an
integer, the storage on disk could be smaller for the column and the
related indexes.  If the the column is an integer, it would not be
possible to have a value like 'arbitrary value that looks nothing like
an integer'.

George Essig

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Re: [PERFORM] SELECT DISTINCT Performance Issue

2005-06-08 Thread K C Lau
Both keys are text fields. Does it make any difference if PlayerID were 
integer?


BTW, I think the real performance problem is when we use SELECT ... ORDER 
BY PlayerID DESC, AtDate DESC LIMIT 1 in a VIEW. Please see my subsequent 
email http://archives.postgresql.org/pgsql-performance/2005-06/msg00110.php 
on this show-stopper problem for which I still have no clue how to get 
around. Suggestions are much appreciated.


Thanks and regards, KC.

At 21:34 05/06/08, George Essig wrote:

On 6/2/05, K C Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
>
> select DISTINCT ON (PlayerID) PlayerID,AtDate from Player  where
> PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc;
> The Player table has primary key (PlayerID, AtDate) representing data over
> time and the query gets the latest data for a player.
>
>
...
> esdt=> explain analyze select DISTINCT ON (PlayerID) PlayerID,AtDate from
> Player
>   where PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc;
>   Unique  (cost=0.00..2507.66 rows=1 width=23) (actual time=0.000..187.000
> rows=1 loops=1)
> ->  Index Scan Backward using pk_player on player  (cost=0.00..2505.55
> rows=8
> 43 width=23) (actual time=0.000..187.000 rows=1227 loops=1)
>   Index Cond: ((playerid)::text = '0'::text)
>   Total runtime: 187.000 ms
>

Is PlayerID an integer datatype or a text datatype.  It seems like
PlayerID should be an integer data type, but postgres treats PlayerID
as a text data type.  This is because the value '0' is quoted in
your query.  Also, the explain analyze output shows "Index Cond:
((playerid)::text = '0'::text".

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Re: [PERFORM] SELECT DISTINCT Performance Issue

2005-06-08 Thread George Essig
On 6/2/05, K C Lau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
...
> 
> select DISTINCT ON (PlayerID) PlayerID,AtDate from Player  where
> PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc;
> The Player table has primary key (PlayerID, AtDate) representing data over
> time and the query gets the latest data for a player.
> 
>
... 
> esdt=> explain analyze select DISTINCT ON (PlayerID) PlayerID,AtDate from
> Player
>   where PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc;
>   Unique  (cost=0.00..2507.66 rows=1 width=23) (actual time=0.000..187.000
> rows=1 loops=1)
> ->  Index Scan Backward using pk_player on player  (cost=0.00..2505.55
> rows=8
> 43 width=23) (actual time=0.000..187.000 rows=1227 loops=1)
>   Index Cond: ((playerid)::text = '0'::text)
>   Total runtime: 187.000 ms
> 

Is PlayerID an integer datatype or a text datatype.  It seems like
PlayerID should be an integer data type, but postgres treats PlayerID
as a text data type.  This is because the value '0' is quoted in
your query.  Also, the explain analyze output shows "Index Cond:
((playerid)::text = '0'::text".

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Re: [PERFORM] SELECT DISTINCT Performance Issue

2005-06-06 Thread K C Lau

At 19:45 05/06/06, PFC wrote:



Previously, we have also tried to use LIMIT 1 instead of DISTINCT, but
the performance was no better:
select PlayerID,AtDate from Player where PlayerID='0' order by
PlayerID desc, AtDate desc LIMIT 1


The DISTINCT query will pull out all the rows and keep only one, 
so the

one with LIMIT should be faster. Can you post explain analyze of the LIMIT
query ?


Actually the problem with LIMIT 1 query is when we use views with the LIMIT 
1 construct. The direct SQL is ok:


esdt=> explain analyze select PlayerID,AtDate from Player where 
PlayerID='0'

 order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc LIMIT 1;

 Limit  (cost=0.00..1.37 rows=1 width=23) (actual time=0.000..0.000 rows=1 
loops

=1)
   ->  Index Scan Backward using pk_player on player  (cost=0.00..16074.23 
rows=

11770 width=23) (actual time=0.000..0.000 rows=1 loops=1)
 Index Cond: ((playerid)::text = '0'::text)
 Total runtime: 0.000 ms

esdt=> create or replace view VCurPlayer3 as select * from Player a
where AtDate = (select b.AtDate from Player b where a.PlayerID = b.PlayerID
order by b.PlayerID desc, b.AtDate desc LIMIT 1);

esdt=> explain analyze select PlayerID,AtDate,version from VCurPlayer3 
where Pla

yerID='0';
 Index Scan using pk_player on player a  (cost=0.00..33072.78 rows=59 
width=27)

(actual time=235.000..235.000 rows=1 loops=1)
   Index Cond: ((playerid)::text = '0'::text)
   Filter: ((atdate)::text = ((subplan))::text)
   SubPlan
 ->  Limit  (cost=0.00..1.44 rows=1 width=23) (actual 
time=0.117..0.117 rows

=1 loops=1743)
   ->  Index Scan Backward using pk_player on player 
b  (cost=0.00..1402

3.67 rows=9727 width=23) (actual time=0.108..0.108 rows=1 loops=1743)
 Index Cond: (($0)::text = (playerid)::text)
 Total runtime: 235.000 ms

The problem appears to be in the loops=1743 scanning all 1743 data records 
for that player.


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Re: [PERFORM] SELECT DISTINCT Performance Issue

2005-06-06 Thread PFC



Previously, we have also tried to use LIMIT 1 instead of DISTINCT, but  
the performance was no better:
select PlayerID,AtDate from Player where PlayerID='0' order by  
PlayerID desc, AtDate desc LIMIT 1


	The DISTINCT query will pull out all the rows and keep only one, so the  
one with LIMIT should be faster. Can you post explain analyze of the LIMIT  
query ?


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[PERFORM] SELECT DISTINCT Performance Issue

2005-06-05 Thread K C Lau

Hi All,

We are testing PostgreSQL 8.0.3 on MS Windows for porting an OLTP system 
from MS SqlServer.


We got a major performance issue which seems to boil down to the following 
type of query:


select DISTINCT ON (PlayerID) PlayerID,AtDate from Player  where 
PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc;
The Player table has primary key (PlayerID, AtDate) representing data over 
time and the query gets the latest data for a player.


With enable_seqscan forced off (which I'm not sure if that should be done 
for a production system), the average query still takes a very long time to 
return a record:


esdt=> explain analyze select DISTINCT ON (PlayerID) PlayerID,AtDate from 
Player

 where PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID desc, AtDate desc;
 Unique  (cost=0.00..2507.66 rows=1 width=23) (actual time=0.000..187.000 
rows=1 loops=1)
   ->  Index Scan Backward using pk_player on player  (cost=0.00..2505.55 
rows=8

43 width=23) (actual time=0.000..187.000 rows=1227 loops=1)
 Index Cond: ((playerid)::text = '0'::text)
 Total runtime: 187.000 ms

It appears that all the 1227 data records for that player were searched, 
even when doing a backward index scan. I would presume that, after locating 
the index for the highest AtDate, only the first data record needs to be 
retrieved.


The following summary of tests seems to confirm my observation. They were 
done on a quiet system (MS Windows 2000 Server, P4 3.0GHz with 
Hyperthreading, 1GB Memory, PostgreSQL shared_buffers = 5), starting 
with a test database before doing a vacuum:


set enable_seqscan = off;
select  Total runtime: 187.000 ms
again:  Total runtime: 78.000 ms
vacuum analyze verbose player;
select  Total runtime: 47.000 ms
again:  Total runtime: 47.000 ms
reindex table player;
select  Total runtime: 78.000 ms
again:  Total runtime: 63.000 ms
cluster pk_player on player;
select  Total runtime: 16.000 ms
again:  Total runtime: 0.000 ms
set enable_seqscan = on;
analyze verbose player;
select  Total runtime: 62.000 ms
again:  Total runtime: 78.000 ms

Previously, we have also tried to use LIMIT 1 instead of DISTINCT, but the 
performance was no better:
select PlayerID,AtDate from Player where PlayerID='0' order by PlayerID 
desc, AtDate desc LIMIT 1


Any clue or suggestions would be most appreciated. If you need further info 
or the full explain logs, please let me know.


Regards,
KC.
 



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