Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-29 Thread Stephane Ducasse
Thanks for all your positive energy.
Your return of experience on the new tools is great too. I experienced
some glitches but this is getting really better and open a lot of
possibilities.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 4:49 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>
>> On 27 Jun 2017, at 14:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>>
>> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>>
>> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
>> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
>> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
>> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
>> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>>
>> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
>> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
>> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
>> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>>
>> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>>
>> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>>
>> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
>> testing before it is ready for general release.
>
> I made the code easier to load.
>
> The default group loads P3Client and its basic dependencies NeoJSON and 
> ZTimestamp
>
> Metacello new
> baseline: 'P3';
> repository: 'github://svenvc/P3';
> load.
>
> The glorp group loads P3DatabaseDriver and the whole of Glorp (warning: large 
> download)
>
> Metacello new
> baseline: 'P3';
> repository: 'github://svenvc/P3';
> load: 'glorp'.
>
>> Sven
>>
>> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
>> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
>> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
>> you Nico and Esteban !
>>
>
>



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 27 Jun 2017, at 14:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
> 
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
> 
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
> 
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
> 
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
> 
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
> testing before it is ready for general release.

I made the code easier to load.

The default group loads P3Client and its basic dependencies NeoJSON and 
ZTimestamp

Metacello new
baseline: 'P3';
repository: 'github://svenvc/P3';
load.

The glorp group loads P3DatabaseDriver and the whole of Glorp (warning: large 
download)
 
Metacello new
baseline: 'P3';
repository: 'github://svenvc/P3';
load: 'glorp'.

> Sven
> 
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
> you Nico and Esteban !
> 




Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Pierce Ng
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 02:56:48PM +0200, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.

This is great stuff!

Pierce



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Norbert Hartl

> Am 28.06.2017 um 12:43 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> 
>> 
>> On 28 Jun 2017, at 12:14, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>> 
>>> 
>>> Am 28.06.2017 um 10:42 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
>>> 
>>> 
 On 28 Jun 2017, at 10:07, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
 
 Great! I assume it is a smalltalk only client?
>>> 
>>> Yes, it is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to 
>>> PostgreSQL.
>>> 
 As we have protocol version 3.0 does it mean that protocol 4.0 will be 
 announced shortly? :)
>>> 
>>> Hmm, I guess you're joking, AFAIK there is no protocol 4.0 (this is the 
>>> front-end/back-end or client-server protocol to talk to the DB).
>>> 
>> Yes, I was joking, of course. I thought this was obvious.
> 
> ;-)
> 
 Great work! Although I do not use SQL databases I need to check.
>>> 
>>> Well, that might be a mistake. PostgreSQL is very good and does most things 
>>> that NoSQL DB's do, like key-value storage, JSON, XML, documents, .. often 
>>> just as fast. Being a bit more traditional, cautious at the DB level is 
>>> considered good in many circles.
>>> 
>> Ok, I understand. I'm aware of json store capabilities. But I'm not aware 
>> about queries using nested json attributes or combined indexes using nested 
>> json attributes. Is it possible?
> 
> Yes it seems to be possible: 
> https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/datatype-json.html 
> 
> 
Ah ok, need to read that.

>> You are the only I  hear in the last time calling postgres fast.
> 
> Here is one article that I read recently, but I have seen others as well: 
> https://containership.engineering/dynamodb-to-postgres-why-and-how-aa891681af4d
>  
> 
> 
>> And what do you mean by "being cautious"? 
> 
> In terms of Enterprise speak, easier to sell, more trustworthy, better known, 
> …
> 
You mean like C and Java ;)  ( <- author is joking! )

Norbert


>> Norbert
>> 
>> 
 Norbert
 
 
> Am 27.06.2017 um 14:56 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> 
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
> 
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 
> [2003] and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports 
> plaintext and md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. 
> When SQL queries return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted 
> to objects. P3Client supports most common PostgreSQL types.
> 
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the 
> same number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the 
> legacy 2.0 protocol). This was the initial design goal.
> 
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
> 
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
> 
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real 
> world testing before it is ready for general release.
> 
> Sven
> 
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser 
> and it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well 
> done ! I also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to 
> me. Thank you Nico and Esteban !



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 28 Jun 2017, at 12:14, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> 
>> 
>> Am 28.06.2017 um 10:42 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
>> 
>> 
>>> On 28 Jun 2017, at 10:07, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>>> 
>>> Great! I assume it is a smalltalk only client?
>> 
>> Yes, it is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to 
>> PostgreSQL.
>> 
>>> As we have protocol version 3.0 does it mean that protocol 4.0 will be 
>>> announced shortly? :)
>> 
>> Hmm, I guess you're joking, AFAIK there is no protocol 4.0 (this is the 
>> front-end/back-end or client-server protocol to talk to the DB).
>> 
> Yes, I was joking, of course. I thought this was obvious.

;-)

>>> Great work! Although I do not use SQL databases I need to check.
>> 
>> Well, that might be a mistake. PostgreSQL is very good and does most things 
>> that NoSQL DB's do, like key-value storage, JSON, XML, documents, .. often 
>> just as fast. Being a bit more traditional, cautious at the DB level is 
>> considered good in many circles.
>> 
> Ok, I understand. I'm aware of json store capabilities. But I'm not aware 
> about queries using nested json attributes or combined indexes using nested 
> json attributes. Is it possible?

Yes it seems to be possible: 
https://www.postgresql.org/docs/9.6/static/datatype-json.html

> You are the only I  hear in the last time calling postgres fast.

Here is one article that I read recently, but I have seen others as well: 
https://containership.engineering/dynamodb-to-postgres-why-and-how-aa891681af4d

> And what do you mean by "being cautious"? 

In terms of Enterprise speak, easier to sell, more trustworthy, better known, 
...

> Norbert
> 
> 
>>> Norbert
>>> 
>>> 
 Am 27.06.2017 um 14:56 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
 
 P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
 
 P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
 and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
 md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
 return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. 
 P3Client supports most common PostgreSQL types.
 
 With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
 object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the 
 same number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the 
 legacy 2.0 protocol). This was the initial design goal.
 
 More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
 
 P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
 
 This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
 testing before it is ready for general release.
 
 Sven
 
 PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser 
 and it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done 
 ! I also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. 
 Thank you Nico and Esteban !




Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Norbert Hartl

> Am 28.06.2017 um 10:42 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> 
> 
>> On 28 Jun 2017, at 10:07, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>> 
>> Great! I assume it is a smalltalk only client?
> 
> Yes, it is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to 
> PostgreSQL.
> 
>> As we have protocol version 3.0 does it mean that protocol 4.0 will be 
>> announced shortly? :)
> 
> Hmm, I guess you're joking, AFAIK there is no protocol 4.0 (this is the 
> front-end/back-end or client-server protocol to talk to the DB).
> 
Yes, I was joking, of course. I thought this was obvious.

>> Great work! Although I do not use SQL databases I need to check.
> 
> Well, that might be a mistake. PostgreSQL is very good and does most things 
> that NoSQL DB's do, like key-value storage, JSON, XML, documents, .. often 
> just as fast. Being a bit more traditional, cautious at the DB level is 
> considered good in many circles.
> 
Ok, I understand. I'm aware of json store capabilities. But I'm not aware about 
queries using nested json attributes or combined indexes using nested json 
attributes. Is it possible? 
You are the only I  hear in the last time calling postgres fast. And what do 
you mean by "being cautious"? 

Norbert
 

>> Norbert
>> 
>> 
>>> Am 27.06.2017 um 14:56 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
>>> 
>>> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>>> 
>>> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
>>> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
>>> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
>>> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. 
>>> P3Client supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>>> 
>>> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
>>> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the 
>>> same number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the 
>>> legacy 2.0 protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>>> 
>>> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>>> 
>>> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>>> 
>>> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
>>> testing before it is ready for general release.
>>> 
>>> Sven
>>> 
>>> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser 
>>> and it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done 
>>> ! I also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. 
>>> Thank you Nico and Esteban !
>> 



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 28 Jun 2017, at 10:07, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> 
> Great! I assume it is a smalltalk only client?

Yes, it is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.

> As we have protocol version 3.0 does it mean that protocol 4.0 will be 
> announced shortly? :)

Hmm, I guess you're joking, AFAIK there is no protocol 4.0 (this is the 
front-end/back-end or client-server protocol to talk to the DB).

> Great work! Although I do not use SQL databases I need to check.

Well, that might be a mistake. PostgreSQL is very good and does most things 
that NoSQL DB's do, like key-value storage, JSON, XML, documents, .. often just 
as fast. Being a bit more traditional, cautious at the DB level is considered 
good in many circles.

> Norbert
> 
> 
>> Am 27.06.2017 um 14:56 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
>> 
>> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>> 
>> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
>> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
>> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
>> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
>> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>> 
>> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
>> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
>> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
>> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>> 
>> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>> 
>> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>> 
>> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
>> testing before it is ready for general release.
>> 
>> Sven
>> 
>> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
>> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
>> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
>> you Nico and Esteban !
> 




Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-28 Thread Norbert Hartl
Great! I assume it is a smalltalk only client? As we have protocol version 3.0 
does it mean that protocol 4.0 will be announced shortly? :)

Great work! Although I do not use SQL databases I need to check.

Norbert


> Am 27.06.2017 um 14:56 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> 
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
> 
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
> 
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
> 
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
> 
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
> 
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
> testing before it is ready for general release.
> 
> Sven
> 
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
> you Nico and Esteban !



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Eliot Miranda
Sven,

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 5:56 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:

> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003]
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects.
> P3Client supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the
> same number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the
> legacy 2.0 protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world
> testing before it is ready for general release.
>

Cool!  Congratulations!

Sven
>
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser
> and it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done
> ! I also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me.
> Thank you Nico and Esteban !
>

_,,,^..^,,,_
best, Eliot


Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Stephan Eggermont

On 27/06/17 14:56, Sven Van Caekenberghe wrote:

P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.


Nice! Thank you

Stephan





Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe

> On 27 Jun 2017, at 17:37, Michael Forster  wrote:
> 
> On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
>> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>> 
>> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
>> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
>> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
>> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
>> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>> 
>> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
>> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
>> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
>> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>> 
>> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>> 
>> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>> 
>> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
>> testing before it is ready for general release.
>> 
>> Sven
>> 
>> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
>> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
>> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
>> you Nico and Esteban !
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
> Very nice, Sven. Common Lisp's loss was Pharo's gain ;-)

Haha, my CL days are long, long gone (though I still maintain 1 CL web app in 
production, more than 10 years after it was written), but it was a lot of fun.

Like Common Lisp, I feel that Pharo is really an amplifier, a power tool, that 
makes seemingly impossible things possible and easy/fun to do. If you look at 
all the code being written by others (Calypso, Iceberg, Epicea, GT Tools, 
Spotter, and so many, many others), you can see the same effect going on.

What is important IMHO is that people stick with (keeping 
supporting/documenting/promoting) the open source code they publish (else it 
will decay very quickly).

> Mike
> 




Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Esteban A. Maringolo
Amazing work Sven!!!

This is very good.

Esteban A. Maringolo


2017-06-27 9:56 GMT-03:00 Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
> testing before it is ready for general release.
>
> Sven
>
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
> you Nico and Esteban !
>
>



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Michael Forster
On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 7:56 AM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
> testing before it is ready for general release.
>
> Sven
>
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
> you Nico and Esteban !
>
>


Very nice, Sven. Common Lisp's loss was Pharo's gain ;-)

Mike



Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Tudor Girba
Great contribution!

Doru


> On Jun 27, 2017, at 2:56 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:
> 
> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
> 
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] 
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and 
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries 
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client 
> supports most common PostgreSQL types.
> 
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
> number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
> protocol). This was the initial design goal.
> 
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
> 
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
> 
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
> testing before it is ready for general release.
> 
> Sven
> 
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and 
> it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I 
> also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank 
> you Nico and Esteban !
> 
> 

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Quality cannot be an afterthought."




Re: [Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread p...@highoctane.be
Wow.

Phil

On Tue, Jun 27, 2017 at 2:56 PM, Sven Van Caekenberghe  wrote:

> P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.
>
> P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003]
> and later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and
> md5 password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries
> return row data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects.
> P3Client supports most common PostgreSQL types.
>
> With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced
> object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the
> same number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the
> legacy 2.0 protocol). This was the initial design goal.
>
> More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3
>
> P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.
>
> This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world
> testing before it is ready for general release.
>
> Sven
>
> PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser
> and it was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done
> ! I also used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me.
> Thank you Nico and Esteban !
>
>
>


[Pharo-dev] [ANN] P3, a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo

2017-06-27 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
P3 is a modern, lean and mean PostgreSQL client for Pharo.

P3Client uses frontend/backend protocol 3.0 (PostgreSQL version 7.4 [2003] and 
later), implementing the simple query cycle. It supports plaintext and md5 
password authentication as well as SSL connections. When SQL queries return row 
data, incoming data is efficiently converted to objects. P3Client supports most 
common PostgreSQL types.

With P3DatabaseDriver, an interface between Glorp, an advanced 
object-relational mapper, and P3Client, most Glorp unit tests pass (the same 
number as the older, proven PostgresV2 driver, that is using the legacy 2.0 
protocol). This was the initial design goal.

More info, usage examples and code at https://github.com/svenvc/P3

P3 is written in pure Pharo, using a TCP network connection to PostgreSQL.

This is an alpha release for the brave of heart that needs more real world 
testing before it is ready for general release.

Sven

PS: I wrote this using 64-bit Pharo 6 on macOS using the Calypso browser and it 
was a beautiful & satisfying experience. Thank you Denis, well done ! I also 
used Iceberg a second time and it starts to feel natural to me. Thank you Nico 
and Esteban !