Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Nicolas Anquetil]

On 15/03/2018 10:31, Marcus Denker wrote:

[...]
What I would like to have is a way to count “currently running images”.
But I guess adding that by default (like all mobile apps now do) would 
not

be wanted.. but one could add some config option.

spotter has it and nobody complained as it is off by default (not sure 
how much people turned it on)




nicolas

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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Marcus Denker]

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 19:02, Esteban A. Maringolo  wrote:
> 
> Do we have any metrics on the number of visits we get on the pharo.org
> website, which parts are the most visited, etc?
> 

Yes, we have Google Analytics installed… but I did not look at it for a long 
time.
It is no that spectacular… 200-300 users per day.
But there is not much reason to visit it often, so a large part of that are 
real new visitors.

> The same regarding web downloads, and so on. I understand that CI can
> distort download count if using only access logs, but certainly if we
> count a download through the webpage as a "conversion" (and track it
> somehow) we would have a better idea how big this is becoming.
> 

The new files.pharo.org  keeps logs for one day… 

So for today: 17.98 GB transfer until now (not even half day), so around 25 to 
30GB per day.

But CI is really a lot… it is not only the CI of Pharo itself, but others, too. 

E.g. just the ZWEIDENKER Jenkins builds quite often… 

Tracking the real downloads would be a better way, yes.

What I would like to have is a way to count “currently running images”.
But I guess adding that by default (like all mobile apps now do) would not 
be wanted.. but one could add some config option.

I want that for the Zweidenker pharo images: right now it is easy to count by 
counting the
processes on the virtual beta-swarm and doubling (for production). But soon 
production
will scale up and beta down *and* there will be a alpha swarm… 

> But back to your point and as a bystander these days, it is very hard
> to be aware of everything that's going on in the Pharo world, and not
> because of the associated noise, because there is actually a lot of
> things going on. :)
> 

It is interesting!

Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Esteban A. Maringolo]

Do we have any metrics on the number of visits we get on the pharo.org
website, which parts are the most visited, etc?

The same regarding web downloads, and so on. I understand that CI can
distort download count if using only access logs, but certainly if we
count a download through the webpage as a "conversion" (and track it
somehow) we would have a better idea how big this is becoming.

But back to your point and as a bystander these days, it is very hard
to be aware of everything that's going on in the Pharo world, and not
because of the associated noise, because there is actually a lot of
things going on. :)

Regards,

Esteban A. Maringolo


2018-03-13 4:27 GMT-03:00 Marcus Denker :
> Hi,
>
> There is something odd happening… or better: There is *a lot* happening.
>
> Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out once
> a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to
> existing projects, re-use “success stories”, things like that.
>
> Now already some months ago I had to add “and here are some other
> interesting announcements, blog posts, videos”.
>
> But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains
> over 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that
> happened between sending the February newsletter and today.
>
> Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe or
> read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org
>
> Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Peter Uhnák]

Excellent, thank you!

Peter

On Wed, Mar 14, 2018 at 10:14 AM, Marcus Denker 
wrote:

>
>
> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:56, Marcus Denker  wrote:
>
>
>
> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:51, Peter Uhnák  wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> just couple minor details I've noticed:
>
> I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice.
>
> 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
> 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
>
>
> Yes, this is a mistake that I did and I do now know if I can fix it (and
> how). The newsletter had the correct subject, but
> the “campaign” the wrong name.
>
> I will contact Mailchimp support. We have so many subscribers that we have
> to pay $20 each month now, but in turn this means we get support.
>
> Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what
> period it is, e.g. https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=
> 6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e I would expect a title "Pharo
> Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that --- this doesn't matter when it
> arrives my inbox, but looking back at the older mails it is not clear from
> the content when it was (but maybe it is intentional).
>
> Ah, ok. Yes, I will add a header in the future.
>
> I added it already to the March Newsletter.
>
> Marcus
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Marcus Denker]

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:56, Marcus Denker  wrote:
> 
> 
> 
>> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:51, Peter Uhnák > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi,
>> 
>> just couple minor details I've noticed:
>> 
>> I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice.
>> 
>> 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
>> 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
>> 
> 
> Yes, this is a mistake that I did and I do now know if I can fix it (and 
> how). The newsletter had the correct subject, but
> the “campaign” the wrong name.
> 
I will contact Mailchimp support. We have so many subscribers that we have to 
pay $20 each month now, but in turn this means we get support.

>> Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what 
>> period it is, e.g. 
>> https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e 
>> 
>>  I would expect a title "Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that 
>> --- this doesn't matter when it arrives my inbox, but looking back at the 
>> older mails it is not clear from the content when it was (but maybe it is 
>> intentional).
>> 
> Ah, ok. Yes, I will add a header in the future.
I added it already to the March Newsletter.

Marcus

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Marcus Denker]

> On 14 Mar 2018, at 09:51, Peter Uhnák  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> just couple minor details I've noticed:
> 
> I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice.
> 
> 02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
> 01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
> 

Yes, this is a mistake that I did and I do now know if I can fix it (and how). 
The newsletter had the correct subject, but
the “campaign” the wrong name.

> Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what 
> period it is, e.g. 
> https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e 
> 
>  I would expect a title "Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that 
> --- this doesn't matter when it arrives my inbox, but looking back at the 
> older mails it is not clear from the content when it was (but maybe it is 
> intentional).
> 
Ah, ok. Yes, I will add a header in the future.

Marcus


> Peter
> 
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Tudor Girba  > wrote:
> This might be how super linear growth feels like once you pass the bending 
> point.
> 
> Doru
> 
> 
> > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker  > > wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is something odd happening… or better: There is *a lot* happening.
> >
> > Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out 
> > once a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to 
> > existing projects, re-use “success stories”, things like that.
> >
> > Now already some months ago I had to add “and here are some other 
> > interesting announcements, blog posts, videos”.
> >
> > But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains 
> > over 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that 
> > happened between sending the February newsletter and today.
> >
> > Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe or 
> > read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org 
> > 
> >
> >   Marcus
> 
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com 
> www.feenk.com 
> 
> "Value is always contextual."
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Peter Uhnák]

Hi,

just couple minor details I've noticed:

I'm looking at website, and it says Jan 2018 twice.

02/01/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018
01/10/2018 - Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018

Also going inside the newsletter, it doesn't actually say for what what
period it is, e.g.
https://us11.campaign-archive.com/?u=6f667565c2569234585a7be77&id=429297434e
I would expect a title "Pharo Newsletter Jan 2018" or something like that
--- this doesn't matter when it arrives my inbox, but looking back at the
older mails it is not clear from the content when it was (but maybe it is
intentional).

Peter

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 9:08 AM, Tudor Girba  wrote:

> This might be how super linear growth feels like once you pass the bending
> point.
>
> Doru
>
>
> > On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker 
> wrote:
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > There is something odd happening… or better: There is *a lot* happening.
> >
> > Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out
> once a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to
> existing projects, re-use “success stories”, things like that.
> >
> > Now already some months ago I had to add “and here are some other
> interesting announcements, blog posts, videos”.
> >
> > But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains
> over 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that
> happened between sending the February newsletter and today.
> >
> > Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe
> or read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org
> >
> >   Marcus
>
> --
> www.tudorgirba.com
> www.feenk.com
>
> "Value is always contextual."
>
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] Something is happening...

[Tudor Girba]

This might be how super linear growth feels like once you pass the bending 
point.

Doru


> On Mar 13, 2018, at 8:27 AM, Marcus Denker  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> There is something odd happening… or better: There is *a lot* happening. 
> 
> Just one example: for the Newsletter, the original idea was to send out once 
> a month a post with 3 things, some of them recycled (e.g. pointers to 
> existing projects, re-use “success stories”, things like that.
> 
> Now already some months ago I had to add “and here are some other interesting 
> announcements, blog posts, videos”. 
> 
> But this month, the list of things for the newsletter TODO list contains over 
> 60 entries. With the exception of maybe 5, these are just things that 
> happened between sending the February newsletter and today.
> 
> Newsletter March should be ready till this thursday, I hope, subscribe or 
> read the oder ones here: http://newsletter.pharo.org
> 
>   Marcus

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Value is always contextual."