Re: [Pharo-dev] tiny survey: who uses Pharo Launcher?

2014-04-20 Thread Ben Coman





1) which platform are you using?
Windows 7

2) is the experience satisfactory/easy enough?

Love it. Pharo Launcher is fantastic. I can no longer work without it.  btw, I use two naming schemes for images.  

  a. image-build-number-only - I never save changes to these images.  I use these to binary search for the first occurrence of a bug, which gives a big hint how to fix it.  Usually I can launch an image, open a workspace, paste a script from the system clipboard, evaluate and close the image inside 30 seconds (excluding download of missing builds).

  b. 'Case',caseNum,'-',imageBuildNum e.g. Case13204-30487 - every case from the issue tracker that I work on may have several images (eg. build of first occurrence, previous build, latest build)

3) do you have some feedback for us (bah, for Damien :P)?
Some feature suggestions...

  a. Be able to add attribute-icons to templates  images 

  b. Using (2a.) remove the "Local" template repository and tag the originating template with a "Local/Downloaded" icon. I often download a recent build and then want to create a new image from the downloaded "Local" template, but forgot to shift up to the "Local" repository and so have to wait through a whole download again.  Its not worth canceling the download because the copy in the "Local" repository is being overwritten.

  c. Download template to a temporary file, then move to its final location.  This would allow an accidental re-download per (2b.) to be canceled, and should also facilitate forking the download.

  d. Add folders to the image pane.  This would help organize my working scheme per (2b.) - with one folder per Case.

  e. Allow images/folders to be set ReadOnly.  This would help me from accidentally saving over my fresh "testing" images per (2a.). Read-only images/folders could be tagged with an icon.

More exotic...

  f. Automated binary search - define a script to be loaded and evaluated and return a result to Pharo Launcher.  From this result, tag that image with a working/broken icon, and determine next build to download and try.

  g. Also manage VMs and which VM runs which image.  Hook this to work with (3f.)

cheers -ben

Laurent Laffont wrote:

  3/ Suggestions:
- show created  last opened date for existing images. Option to sort by date or alphabetically
  

+1 Sometimes I create an new image but must have a typo in the name,
and lose where the new image is created. (I have currently have about
60 images - that probably need to be cleaned up, but disk space is
cheap.)

  - add a comment field for existing images so I could remember why I have this image
  

+1

  - add a search field for templates  existing images
  

+1

  - bookmark some templates (I often download Seaside or Phratch, tired to scroll down) 
- get the descriptions of the jenkins jobs to know what each template is about
- notification that a new version of PharoLauncher is available
- manage common preferences in PharoLauncher:
   - shared package-cache
   - prepare each new image with a set of Metacello configuration  preferences


Laurent

Le samedi 19 avril 2014, 14:32:18 Esteban Lorenzano a crit :
  
  
Hi,
We want to know a bit more about Pharo Launcher, so please, answer this three points if you are using it: 

1) which platform are you using?
2) is the experience satisfactory/easy enough?
3) do you have some feedback for us (bah, for Damien :P)?

thanks, 
Esteban

  
  


  







Re: [Pharo-dev] tiny survey: who uses Pharo Launcher?

2014-04-19 Thread kilon alios
1) I am using it on Windows 7 , Macos 10.7 , Macos 10.9 and I was also
using it on Ubuntu 13.12 that is no longer supported so I dont use it there
anymore.

2) I am very happy with it, simple enough and gets the job done

3) I don't like the idea that I can no longer run it on my Ubuntu. I also
dont like that it freezes any action while downloading the image , for
example when the servers were down instead of returning a server not
found it was infinitely frozen on downloading and had to force quit it .
It would be nice if images came with some form of description for those not
familiar with them and maybe a time stamp.

I wish python and other languages had something similar , I am big fan of
PharoLauncher

I would like some form of documentation, I tried several times to
understand the code but could not figure out how it works which made it
very hard for me to contribute ( I had contributed already the loading bars
for it). My intention was to help out into making it accessible through
CLI. I have to confess I only spent a couple of hours into reading the code
in total and then I gave up.


On Sat, Apr 19, 2014 at 3:32 PM, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.comwrote:

 Hi,
 We want to know a bit more about Pharo Launcher, so please, answer this
 three points if you are using it:

 1) which platform are you using?
 2) is the experience satisfactory/easy enough?
 3) do you have some feedback for us (bah, for Damien :P)?

 thanks,
 Esteban



Re: [Pharo-dev] tiny survey: who uses Pharo Launcher?

2014-04-19 Thread Laurent Laffont
Hi Esteban,

I use only Pharo Launcher for several months:

1/ ArchLinux, 64 bits

2/ Yes, great improvement in managing images

3/ Suggestions:
- show created  last opened date for existing images. Option to sort by date 
or alphabetically
- add a comment field for existing images so I could remember why I have this 
image
- add a search field for templates  existing images
- bookmark some templates (I often download Seaside or Phratch, tired to scroll 
down) 
- get the descriptions of the jenkins jobs to know what each template is about
- notification that a new version of PharoLauncher is available
- manage common preferences in PharoLauncher:
   - shared package-cache
   - prepare each new image with a set of Metacello configuration  preferences


Laurent

Le samedi 19 avril 2014, 14:32:18 Esteban Lorenzano a écrit :
 Hi,
 We want to know a bit more about Pharo Launcher, so please, answer this three 
 points if you are using it: 
 
 1) which platform are you using?
 2) is the experience satisfactory/easy enough?
 3) do you have some feedback for us (bah, for Damien :P)?
 
 thanks, 
 Esteban




Re: [Pharo-dev] tiny survey: who uses Pharo Launcher?

2014-04-19 Thread Attila Magyar
I use it, and like it very much (win7). 

I discovered that that the startup time of the launcher is not as
instantaneous as the normal one click image was before. I wonder if anyone
else experienced this.



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