Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Tudor Girba]

Thanks!

Doru


> On Nov 23, 2017, at 8:26 PM, Juraj Kubelka  wrote:
> 
> Hi, the new version is available here: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1EzOnfHUe0 
> 
> Hopefully it helps :-)
> Juraj
> 
>> On Nov 22, 2017, at 15:45, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:
>> 
>> Juraj Kubelka wrote
>>> I will upload recording I have on my computer. It is clear.
>> 
>> Thanks!
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -
>> Cheers,
>> Sean
>> --
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>> 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Juraj Kubelka]

Hi, the new version is available here: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1EzOnfHUe0 
 

Hopefully it helps :-)
Juraj

> On Nov 22, 2017, at 15:45, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:
> 
> Juraj Kubelka wrote
>> I will upload recording I have on my computer. It is clear.
> 
> Thanks!
> 
> 
> 
> -
> Cheers,
> Sean
> --
> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Dimitris Chloupis]

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 6:03 PM Juraj Kubelka 
wrote:

>
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 19:54, Dimitris Chloupis 
> wrote:
>
> Well done :)
>
> Now you can make a discord client inside the Pharo image if you want.
>
>
> Exactly :-) I am looking for integrations that improve the developer
> experience. Maybe the interface should be different from the standard
> client. The question is how to integrate and why? What do you think?
>
> Cheers,
> Juraj
>

Well its a highly personally question

For me it was easy to, well realtive easy, because my Atlas pharo library
allows me to use any python library fron inside Pharo , so techically I
could use the existing Python API to make a Discord client inside Pharo ,
without a need to create a wrapper (live tranlation and executing of code).

I was already familiar with the Discord API because I made a bot for the
Discord server (I am the one that created the Discord server for Pharo. I
did not intend to move the community from Slack to Discord , but Esteban
liked its so much that pused it forward as an idea and it did happen). The
API its quite simple so making a client inside Pharo should not be hard.

But never felt the need to have a Discord client inside Pharo. On the other
hand I never expected our Discord community to grow so large and so active,
so fast. Unfortunately I decided to take on creating a Python project so I
did not have much usage for Pharo (Python is embeded so it makes Pharo
usage quite tricky for me) lately but I am still available for advice,
recommendations and so forth.

If you start making a Discord client inside the image, make sure you join
the Discord API server, they are extremely helpful and they even have a
channel for testing bots. A Discord bot uses the same API as a potential
client.

Now on the how...

What I would have done would have been to add the client as tab to the
welcome dialog we have when ones first open the image and also as an option
to GTSpotter , it would be in the form of "Ask Pharo a Question" and it
would send the question directly to our help channel so that beginners
could get real time help with any problem they had even those unaware of
the existance of Discord. Obviously the option would also exist to expand
it to a full Discord interface but my idea was mostly to keep it simple and
minimal. One channel, one line, one inpute, and one short list of messages
scrolling back and forward.

Thats one way, there are obviously billions of other ways to do this.

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Stephane Ducasse]

Thanks Juraj!
I want to watch it.

On Wed, Nov 22, 2017 at 7:45 PM, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:
> Juraj Kubelka wrote
>> I will upload recording I have on my computer. It is clear.
>
> Thanks!
>
>
>
> -
> Cheers,
> Sean
> --
> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Juraj Kubelka wrote
> I will upload recording I have on my computer. It is clear.

Thanks!



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Cheers,
Sean
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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Juraj Kubelka]

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 19:54, Dimitris Chloupis  wrote:
> 
> Well done :)
> 
> Now you can make a discord client inside the Pharo image if you want. 

Exactly :-) I am looking for integrations that improve the developer 
experience. Maybe the interface should be different from the standard client. 
The question is how to integrate and why? What do you think?

Cheers,
Juraj

> On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 21:03, Juraj Kubelka  > wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> the TechTalk record is available at the same link: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
>  
> and includes outline to simplify navigation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Juraj
> 
> 
> TechTalk Outline:
> - 01:58 The beginning of the talk
> - 04:30 Webhook
>   - 04:33 How to Create Webhook
>   - 05:39 Webhook Examples
>   - 10:33 Webhook Use Case: Script of the Day from Nautilus Code Browser
>   - 18:39 Webhook Use Case: Server Problem Notification
> - 22:45 Bot App (chatbot)
>   - 24:47 How to Create a Bot App
>   - 28:28 Bot App Examples
>   - 33:17 Bot Use Case: Source Code Expertise
> - 41:40 Standard User Client
>   - 42:57 User Client Example
>   - 45:06 User Client Use Case: Asking Directly from Pharo Playground
>   - 47:06 User Client Use Case: Receiving Questions and Answering in Pharo
>   - 50:50 Final Thoughts About Discord Integration in Inspector and Debugger
> - 52:44 Discussion
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:54, Juraj Kubelka > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> The TechTalk starts in about 10 minutes. Join us on Discord, the techtalk 
>> channel.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Juraj
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:11, Marcus Denker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The link to the live stream is this:
>>> 
>>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It start in a bit less than 3 hours.
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
 On 18 Nov 2017, at 09:13, Marcus Denker > wrote:
 
 Pharo TechTalk: Discord Demo
 When?  21 Nov 2017 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+01:00)
 
 Topic: "Discord communication Demo”, how to script discord from Pharo.
 
https://association.pharo.org/event-2642665 
 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Juraj Kubelka]

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 21:57, Sean P. DeNigris  wrote:
> 
> Juraj Kubelka wrote
>> the TechTalk record is available at the same link:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
> 
> Thanks! The quality seems to top out at 480p, which is pretty blurry. It
> makes the code nearly unreadable. Any way to bump the resolution on the next
> one?

I do not know how to improve the streaming itself. Maybe the internet speed was 
not perfect that day in Chile.
I will upload recording I have on my computer. It is clear.

Cheers,
Juraj

> 
> 
> 
> -
> Cheers,
> Sean
> --
> Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Marcus Denker]

Hi,

I added links to the TechTalk archive:

http://pharo.org/TechTalk

> On 21 Nov 2017, at 20:02, Juraj Kubelka  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> the TechTalk record is available at the same link: 
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
>  
> and includes outline to simplify navigation.
> 
> Cheers,
> Juraj
> 
> 
> TechTalk Outline:
> - 01:58 The beginning of the talk
> - 04:30 Webhook
>   - 04:33 How to Create Webhook
>   - 05:39 Webhook Examples
>   - 10:33 Webhook Use Case: Script of the Day from Nautilus Code Browser
>   - 18:39 Webhook Use Case: Server Problem Notification
> - 22:45 Bot App (chatbot)
>   - 24:47 How to Create a Bot App
>   - 28:28 Bot App Examples
>   - 33:17 Bot Use Case: Source Code Expertise
> - 41:40 Standard User Client
>   - 42:57 User Client Example
>   - 45:06 User Client Use Case: Asking Directly from Pharo Playground
>   - 47:06 User Client Use Case: Receiving Questions and Answering in Pharo
>   - 50:50 Final Thoughts About Discord Integration in Inspector and Debugger
> - 52:44 Discussion
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:54, Juraj Kubelka > > wrote:
>> 
>> Hi!
>> 
>> The TechTalk starts in about 10 minutes. Join us on Discord, the techtalk 
>> channel.
>> 
>> Cheers,
>> Juraj
>> 
>> 
>>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:11, Marcus Denker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> The link to the live stream is this:
>>> 
>>>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> It start in a bit less than 3 hours.
>>> 
>>> Marcus
>>> 
 On 18 Nov 2017, at 09:13, Marcus Denker > wrote:
 
 Pharo TechTalk: Discord Demo
 When?  21 Nov 2017 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+01:00)
 
 Topic: "Discord communication Demo”, how to script discord from Pharo.
 
https://association.pharo.org/event-2642665 
 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Sean P. DeNigris]

Juraj Kubelka wrote
> the TechTalk record is available at the same link:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 

Thanks! The quality seems to top out at 480p, which is pretty blurry. It
makes the code nearly unreadable. Any way to bump the resolution on the next
one?



-
Cheers,
Sean
--
Sent from: http://forum.world.st/Pharo-Smalltalk-Developers-f1294837.html

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Dimitris Chloupis]

Well done :)

Now you can make a discord client inside the Pharo image if you want.
On Tue, 21 Nov 2017 at 21:03, Juraj Kubelka 
wrote:

> Hi,
>
> the TechTalk record is available at the same link:
> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA
> and includes outline to simplify navigation.
>
> Cheers,
> Juraj
>
>
> TechTalk Outline:
> - 01:58 The beginning of the talk
> - 04:30 Webhook
>   - 04:33 How to Create Webhook
>   - 05:39 Webhook Examples
>   - 10:33 Webhook Use Case: Script of the Day from Nautilus Code Browser
>   - 18:39 Webhook Use Case: Server Problem Notification
> - 22:45 Bot App (chatbot)
>   - 24:47 How to Create a Bot App
>   - 28:28 Bot App Examples
>   - 33:17 Bot Use Case: Source Code Expertise
> - 41:40 Standard User Client
>   - 42:57 User Client Example
>   - 45:06 User Client Use Case: Asking Directly from Pharo Playground
>   - 47:06 User Client Use Case: Receiving Questions and Answering in Pharo
>   - 50:50 Final Thoughts About Discord Integration in Inspector and
> Debugger
> - 52:44 Discussion
>
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:54, Juraj Kubelka  wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
> The TechTalk starts in about 10 minutes. Join us on Discord, the techtalk
> channel.
>
> Cheers,
> Juraj
>
>
> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:11, Marcus Denker  wrote:
>
> The link to the live stream is this:
>
>  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA
>
> It start in a bit less than 3 hours.
>
> Marcus
>
> On 18 Nov 2017, at 09:13, Marcus Denker  wrote:
>
> Pharo TechTalk: Discord Demo
> When?  21 Nov 2017 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+01:00)
>
> Topic: "Discord communication Demo”, how to script discord from Pharo.
>
> https://association.pharo.org/event-2642665
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Juraj Kubelka]

Hi,

the TechTalk record is available at the same link: 
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
 
and includes outline to simplify navigation.

Cheers,
Juraj


TechTalk Outline:
- 01:58 The beginning of the talk
- 04:30 Webhook
  - 04:33 How to Create Webhook
  - 05:39 Webhook Examples
  - 10:33 Webhook Use Case: Script of the Day from Nautilus Code Browser
  - 18:39 Webhook Use Case: Server Problem Notification
- 22:45 Bot App (chatbot)
  - 24:47 How to Create a Bot App
  - 28:28 Bot App Examples
  - 33:17 Bot Use Case: Source Code Expertise
- 41:40 Standard User Client
  - 42:57 User Client Example
  - 45:06 User Client Use Case: Asking Directly from Pharo Playground
  - 47:06 User Client Use Case: Receiving Questions and Answering in Pharo
  - 50:50 Final Thoughts About Discord Integration in Inspector and Debugger
- 52:44 Discussion

> On Nov 21, 2017, at 12:54, Juraj Kubelka  wrote:
> 
> Hi!
> 
> The TechTalk starts in about 10 minutes. Join us on Discord, the techtalk 
> channel.
> 
> Cheers,
> Juraj
> 
> 
>> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:11, Marcus Denker > > wrote:
>> 
>> The link to the live stream is this:
>> 
>>   https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
>> 
>> 
>> It start in a bit less than 3 hours.
>> 
>>  Marcus
>> 
>>> On 18 Nov 2017, at 09:13, Marcus Denker >> > wrote:
>>> 
>>> Pharo TechTalk: Discord Demo
>>> When?  21 Nov 2017 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+01:00)
>>> 
>>> Topic: "Discord communication Demo”, how to script discord from Pharo.
>>> 
>>> https://association.pharo.org/event-2642665 
>>> 
>> 
> 

Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo-users] [ANN] Pharo TechTalk 21 Nov: Discord Demo

[Juraj Kubelka]

Hi!

The TechTalk starts in about 10 minutes. Join us on Discord, the techtalk 
channel.

Cheers,
Juraj


> On Nov 21, 2017, at 10:11, Marcus Denker  wrote:
> 
> The link to the live stream is this:
> 
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=33kXsOiP6wA 
> 
> 
> It start in a bit less than 3 hours.
> 
>   Marcus
> 
>> On 18 Nov 2017, at 09:13, Marcus Denker > > wrote:
>> 
>> Pharo TechTalk: Discord Demo
>> When?  21 Nov 2017 5:00 PM - 7:00 PM (UTC+01:00)
>> 
>> Topic: "Discord communication Demo”, how to script discord from Pharo.
>> 
>>  https://association.pharo.org/event-2642665 
>> 
>