Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
On Sep 13, 2013, at 11:54 PM, GOUBIER Thierry thierry.goub...@cea.fr wrote: One thing with RB environment scoping: RB selector environments are passive. The implementorsOf: environment just contains the result of the search, not the search query. If you create a new method of the same name, the environment won't see it, and the tools either since they can't ask the environment to re-run the query. Yes and this is why we should unify Enviromnet and ring since in ring could can specify if you want active method. We should do a pass on all that. Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr] Date d'envoi : vendredi 13 septembre 2013 17:11 À : Pharo Development List Objet : Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday! A RBEnvironment scoped version of my AltBrowser, with a bit of tree filtering on the display. Ok I see. I want to have everytools working on environment so that we get scoping. Finder is like the Finder plugin in Nautilus, except that it opens a scoped instance of the browser. MessageBrowser is replaced by a scoped instance of the browser. And the browser knows how to adjust the tree display depending on the scope (pruning the tree and adapting the display of items). Makes exploring code a lot easier mostly because of smart suggestions, otherwise I would do implementorsOf:, get the message browser, and use browse on each result one by one to open a new browser, and there have smart suggestions to do implementorsOf: to be able to follow a cascade of message sends :( I hated being in the finder, looking at the code pane and a multi arguments message and saying to myself 'but how will I do sendersOf or implementorsOf of that message?' Yes I understand. , and I now have unified menus, shortcuts and smart suggestions and I find it really, really nice. do you have suggestion for the menus unification? Have a single code source editor* for all code panes, with the same menu building** code in each :) Oh yes * This is probably the case in the old framework and the reason for having all thoses menu actions inside SmalltalkEditor. ** But something pluggable so that we may still be able to experiment! Yes. We should really revisit all the menus and get one way to build them and reuse them. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 ScreenshotFinder.png
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
One thing with RB environment scoping: RB selector environments are passive. The implementorsOf: environment just contains the result of the search, not the search query. If you create a new method of the same name, the environment won't see it, and the tools either since they can't ask the environment to re-run the query. Thierry De : Pharo-dev [pharo-dev-boun...@lists.pharo.org] de la part de Stéphane Ducasse [stephane.duca...@inria.fr] Date d'envoi : vendredi 13 septembre 2013 17:11 À : Pharo Development List Objet : Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday! A RBEnvironment scoped version of my AltBrowser, with a bit of tree filtering on the display. Ok I see. I want to have everytools working on environment so that we get scoping. Finder is like the Finder plugin in Nautilus, except that it opens a scoped instance of the browser. MessageBrowser is replaced by a scoped instance of the browser. And the browser knows how to adjust the tree display depending on the scope (pruning the tree and adapting the display of items). Makes exploring code a lot easier mostly because of smart suggestions, otherwise I would do implementorsOf:, get the message browser, and use browse on each result one by one to open a new browser, and there have smart suggestions to do implementorsOf: to be able to follow a cascade of message sends :( I hated being in the finder, looking at the code pane and a multi arguments message and saying to myself 'but how will I do sendersOf or implementorsOf of that message?' Yes I understand. , and I now have unified menus, shortcuts and smart suggestions and I find it really, really nice. do you have suggestion for the menus unification? Have a single code source editor* for all code panes, with the same menu building** code in each :) Oh yes * This is probably the case in the old framework and the reason for having all thoses menu actions inside SmalltalkEditor. ** But something pluggable so that we may still be able to experiment! Yes. We should really revisit all the menus and get one way to build them and reuse them. Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95 ScreenshotFinder.png
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
Actually that's a nice topic to focus the sprint on :) :) maybe I need some support for the whole keymapping stuff that seems to be weird under linux :( Cool! Could you get the middle mouse button copy/paste to work as well? yes! I will switch to linux during the sprint ;) so everything that works strangely shall be fixed! The main things I have in mind are: - broken shortcuts under linux - broken mouse button under linux - nautilus speedup by using newList - maybe synchronize shortcuts in general over all tools signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
Le 12/09/2013 14:36, Camillo Bruni a écrit : Actually that's a nice topic to focus the sprint on :) :) maybe I need some support for the whole keymapping stuff that seems to be weird under linux :( Cool! Could you get the middle mouse button copy/paste to work as well? yes! I will switch to linux during the sprint ;) so everything that works strangely shall be fixed! The main things I have in mind are: - broken shortcuts under linux - broken mouse button under linux - nautilus speedup by using newList - maybe synchronize shortcuts in general over all tools Overall synchronisation is nice. I've replaced MessageBrowser and the Finder UI in my own Pharo, and I now have unified menus, shortcuts and smart suggestions and I find it really, really nice. Took time to get there :( Thierry -- Thierry Goubier CEA list Laboratoire des Fondations des Systèmes Temps Réel Embarqués 91191 Gif sur Yvette Cedex France Phone/Fax: +33 (0) 1 69 08 32 92 / 83 95
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
beware of that... it could need changes in the vm :) On Sep 12, 2013, at 2:36 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: Actually that's a nice topic to focus the sprint on :) :) maybe I need some support for the whole keymapping stuff that seems to be weird under linux :( Cool! Could you get the middle mouse button copy/paste to work as well? yes! I will switch to linux during the sprint ;) so everything that works strangely shall be fixed! The main things I have in mind are: - broken shortcuts under linux - broken mouse button under linux - nautilus speedup by using newList - maybe synchronize shortcuts in general over all tools
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
On 2013-09-12, at 10:00, Esteban Lorenzano esteba...@gmail.com wrote: beware of that... it could need changes in the vm :) gna gna gna :D oh well, we'll get there :P signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.comwrote: Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires! When: sept 14 (This saturday!) We start at 10 and estimated finish at 17:00. You can join in any moment! Where: 10Pines http://www.10pines.com/ (Av Leandro N. Alem 693 5°B) We will fix bugs and we are talking about improving usability (specially in Linux!) Actually that's a nice topic to focus the sprint on :) 2013/9/6 Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com Excelent, now we have to think in wich issues resolve and who will provide the food/drink ;) 2013/9/6 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com Sounds great to me, So to clear: Title:Pharo Spring Date: 2013-09-14 (Saturday, Hours to be discussed) Location: 10pines thanks for helping out :) On 2013-09-06, at 12:18, Nicolas Passerini npasser...@gmail.com wrote: I think it would be great to use 10Pines office if it is available. On Fri, Sep 6, 2013 at 12:15 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.comwrote: Hello! If we are having hosting problems during the weekend with the sprint we can use 10Pines (http://www.10pines.com/) office.In fact in ten pines we will be very happy to offer our place for this kind of events. During the week is more complex to find room, but we are not used to work during weekends ;) So, the office is near Retiro (Av. Leandro N. Alem y Viamonte) we have internet access and if it's sunny we can use the roof. We should set a date to confirm the availability (again if it's weekend, is available otherwise we should check). 2013/9/4 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com From the doodle we're around 7, so I'd count with something like 10 people? And yes, I think internet connection is a requirement, at least for updating the issue tracker. On 2013-09-04, at 10:32, Nicolas Passerini npasser...@gmail.com wrote: I think UTN is not a good idea for a Pharo sprint, because we will need a good Internet connection and that can not be guaranteed here. (Or correct me and tell me that Internet connection is not a must, so we can meet here at UTN without problems). How much people is coming to the Sprint? On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 10:12 AM, Sebastian Tleye stl...@gmail.com wrote: The Pabellon 1 is closed on saturdays afternoon, but have you asked for Pabellon 2? I think it's open on saturdays (i don't know if it is possible to book a room) 2013/9/4 Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com Probably UTN? On Wed, Sep 4, 2013 at 2:45 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: So it looks like we are going to do the Pharo sprint in Buenos Aires Saturday, the 14th of September. The question is now where do we meet? The original idea was to reserver a room at the UBA, but that is not possible the weekend. Any suggestions? On 2013-09-03, at 09:05, Mariano Martinez Peck marianop...@gmail.com wrote: Cool. I'll be there, of course! Keep us informed. Cheers, On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 10:42 PM, Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com wrote: everything is open so far, guido had the idea of reserving a room at the UBA, we will have more details tomorrow :) On 2013-09-02, at 21:24, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.com wrote: Great! The idea is to spend the full day? Or do you have any planed time? 2013/9/2 Camillo Bruni camillobr...@gmail.com I spend a month in Buenos Aires working together with Guido Chari @ the UBA, we take this opportunity to organize a Pharo sprint outside France ;) We are in early preparation phase and the date nor location isn't fixed yet, so if you are motivated to join, can mark possible dates on this doodle: http://doodle.com/qey7iieqm5yr4wwy cheers, camillo -- Mariano http://marianopeck.wordpress.com -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups Taller de Lenguajes de Programación group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to tlp-utn-2012+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.
Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires - this saturday!
On 2013-09-11, at 18:40, Guillermo Polito guillermopol...@gmail.com wrote: On Wed, Sep 11, 2013 at 3:50 PM, Gisela Decuzzi giseladecu...@gmail.comwrote: Pharo Sprint in Buenos Aires! When: sept 14 (This saturday!) We start at 10 and estimated finish at 17:00. You can join in any moment! Where: 10Pines http://www.10pines.com/ (Av Leandro N. Alem 693 5°B) We will fix bugs and we are talking about improving usability (specially in Linux!) Actually that's a nice topic to focus the sprint on :) :) maybe I need some support for the whole keymapping stuff that seems to be weird under linux :( signature.asc Description: Message signed with OpenPGP using GPGMail
