Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo3 issues] down to 17 issues

2014-04-05 Thread Marcus Denker

On 04 Apr 2014, at 18:22, MartinW w...@fastmail.fm wrote:

 When i add a new bug to the issue tracker it is automatically tagged as fix
 if time. Am i supposed to change this label to higher priority if i think
 it's appropriate -

Yes! 

 or is someone reviewing new entered bugs and assigning
 priorities to them?

That too, but there is no automatism. People look at the tracker and
check and change/sort, and over time some consensus is found what
status an issue should have.

(it would be nice to have more people looking at the tracker from time to 
time to help with this)

 Anyway here's the bug: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13175/
 

I put it higher so we do not forget to merge it withthe other duplicated 
reports.

Marcus


Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo3 issues] down to 17 issues

2014-04-05 Thread Ben Coman

Marcus Denker wrote:

Hi,

We are down to 17 open issues that are tagged “must fix” or higher:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/filters/64/3-0-TODO

two of those have code that is in need of review.

Marcus

  
That is really great Marcus. Thanks for your efforts and those of the 
other integrators.

cheers -ben




Re: [Pharo-dev] [pharo3 issues] down to 17 issues

2014-04-04 Thread MartinW
When i add a new bug to the issue tracker it is automatically tagged as fix
if time. Am i supposed to change this label to higher priority if i think
it's appropriate - or is someone reviewing new entered bugs and assigning
priorities to them?
Anyway here's the bug: https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/13175/



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Re: [Pharo-dev] [Pharo3] Issues for review and for integration empy

2014-01-09 Thread Esteban Lorenzano
give me 15’ ;)

On 09 Jan 2014, at 14:01, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:

 … so we finally managed to have no issues anymore that are
   - fix review needed + pre-check by the monkey
   - fix to integrate
 
 Wow.. that never happened before ;-)
 
   Marcus




Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Stephan Eggermont
If anyone wants the solution for 
https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
before Jan 26, please remember Camillo is working on his PhD till then.  (needs 
reviewing)

Stephan


Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Tudor Girba
I do not get that. As far as I can tell, the fix is already integrated :).

Doru


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 1:29 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:

 If anyone wants the solution for

 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 before Jan 26, please remember Camillo is working on his PhD till then.
  (needs reviewing)

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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Doru wrote:
I do not get that. As far as I can tell, the fix is already integrated :).

No, it needs to be resolved to Fix to be included.

Stephan



Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Hmm, strange. It was available in 30666, but it is not available anymore in
30669.

Was it reverted because it was not good, or was it because of another issue?

Doru


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 2:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:

 Doru wrote:
 I do not get that. As far as I can tell, the fix is already integrated :).

 No, it needs to be resolved to Fix to be included.

 Stephan




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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Doru wrote:
 Hmm, strange. It was available in 30666, but it is not available anymore in 
 30669.
 
 Was it reverted because it was not good, or was it because of another issue?

It was never there. Did you by change load the slice in your 30666?

Stephan


Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-03 Thread Tudor Girba
Oops :)

Doru


On Fri, Jan 3, 2014 at 3:04 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:

 Doru wrote:
  Hmm, strange. It was available in 30666, but it is not available anymore
 in 30669.
 
  Was it reverted because it was not good, or was it because of another
 issue?

 It was never there. Did you by change load the slice in your 30666?

 Stephan




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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Brilliant! I tested it, and it works fine.

Doru


On Thu, Jan 2, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Stephan Eggermont step...@stack.nl wrote:

 I removed the preference setting, and made it a local action (Issue 10551)

 Stephan





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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Tudor Girba
Now, that the issue was fixed without me doing anything, I can reply.

I think we are going too much in the direction of discouraging opinions and
ideas on the basis that no code comes with them.

In our particular case, it seems to me that it was my little suggestion
that triggered the energy to produce the actual solution. Sometimes, the
obvious solution is not so obvious (actually, I posted my remark precisely
because I finally figured out what was bothering me about the issue). We
should encourage people to think out loud and we might end up with better
solutions at the end.

Cheers,
Doru



On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr
 wrote:

 Doru

 The point of marcus is that we cannot take into account all wishes of
 everybody: else we would not do anything else.
 So if somebody thinks that something that is not in our critical path
 should be changed he should submit code.
 I have tons of ideas that could be implemented now since we do not have
 infinite ressources we focus on the important
 ones.

 Stef

 I do not understand this reaction :(

 Doru


 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote:


 On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:

 I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time,
 you actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do.
 Only from time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So,
 the preference should be per browser, not global.


 consider that the issue was open since July. How likely is it that what
 you describe will ever be done?

 Cheers,
 Doru


 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Marcus Denker 
 marcus.den...@inria.frwrote:


 On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com
 wrote:

  Marcus Denker-4 wrote
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the
 repositories
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only
 the
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
  Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if
 that
  idea was good:
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
  (this issue is from July)
 
  I commented in the issue:
  +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether
 there
  is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 

 I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite,
 then it’s fixed with no
 problems for those wanting the other behaviour.

 Marcus




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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2014-01-02 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

 Now, that the issue was fixed without me doing anything, I can reply.
 
 I think we are going too much in the direction of discouraging opinions and 
 ideas on the basis that no code comes with them.

Let us try to understand a bit. we have a LOT LOT LOT of duties for Pharo and 
in addition we have our normal work. Now people can express whatever they want. 
Now Marcus just mentionned that 
if people wants a chance to get their ideas getting real then they are not that 
many options. 
If people thinking that something is important do not put the energy on the 
table then why would other people with different agendas would do it. 

 In our particular case, it seems to me that it was my little suggestion that 
 triggered the energy to produce the actual solution. Sometimes, the obvious 
 solution is not so obvious (actually, I posted my remark precisely because I 
 finally figured out what was bothering me about the issue). We should 
 encourage people to think out loud and we might end up with better solutions 
 at the end.

Yes but doru I have a HUGE HUGE wish list. So should I send all the items to 
the list and do nothing?
No I should take a little one and do it even slowly. Then go to the next one. 
And continue. 
For example, even you when is the last time that you submit a fix for Pharo?

Stef

 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Stéphane Ducasse stephane.duca...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 Doru 
 
 The point of marcus is that we cannot take into account all wishes of 
 everybody: else we would not do anything else.
 So if somebody thinks that something that is not in our critical path should 
 be changed he should submit code.
 I have tons of ideas that could be implemented now since we do not have 
 infinite ressources we focus on the important 
 ones. 
 
 Stef
 
 I do not understand this reaction :(
 
 Doru
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 
 On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
 
 I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time, 
 you actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do. 
 Only from time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So, 
 the preference should be per browser, not global.
 
 
 consider that the issue was open since July. How likely is it that what you 
 describe will ever be done?
 
 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
 
  Marcus Denker-4 wrote
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
  Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if 
  that
  idea was good:
 
  https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
  (this issue is from July)
 
  I commented in the issue:
  +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether 
  there
  is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 
 
 I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite, 
 then it’s fixed with no
 problems for those wanting the other behaviour.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Marcus Denker

On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:

 Marcus Denker-4 wrote
 - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that
 idea was good:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)
 
 I commented in the issue:
 +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether there
 is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 

I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite, then 
it’s fixed with no
problems for those wanting the other behaviour.

Marcus


Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Marcus Denker

On 30 Dec 2013, at 13:54, Sven Van Caekenberghe s...@stfx.eu wrote:

 Hi Nicolai,
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 13:26, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote:
 
 for issue 12223
 
 please revert the changes done for editing history in Nautilus.
 It makes more trouble than it helps.
 It is a nice feature, but it is implementation has too many side effects 
 (discard changes on close, lose changes when jump through the
 history, history has a limit)
 If no one has the time to revert this, just give me a GO, and I'll do it :-)
 
 
 Nicolai
 
 Yes, I think that features has given us a lot of trouble already, I concur 
 with your conclusion: revert.
 
 Another thing I have been wanting to say to you: I am very impressed and very 
 happy to see you tackle so many diverse issues with so much energy. You 
 really embody the ‘just doIt’ tagline. 
 
 Thank you very much, I for one, appreciate it a lot !
 

Indeed! I really enjoy your contributions… amazing.

Marcus




Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Tudor Girba
I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time,
you actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do.
Only from time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So,
the preference should be per browser, not global.

Cheers,
Doru


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote:


 On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:

  Marcus Denker-4 wrote
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
  Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if
 that
  idea was good:
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
  (this issue is from July)
 
  I commented in the issue:
  +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether
 there
  is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 

 I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite,
 then it’s fixed with no
 problems for those wanting the other behaviour.

 Marcus




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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Marcus Denker

On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:

 I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time, you 
 actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do. Only from 
 time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So, the 
 preference should be per browser, not global.
 

consider that the issue was open since July. How likely is it that what you 
describe will ever be done?

 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
 
  Marcus Denker-4 wrote
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
  Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that
  idea was good:
 
  https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
  (this issue is from July)
 
  I commented in the issue:
  +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether there
  is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 
 
 I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite, then 
 it’s fixed with no
 problems for those wanting the other behaviour.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
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 www.tudorgirba.com
 
 Every thing has its own flow



Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Jannik wrote
- In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method,
 then I select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want 
 to save changes. 

Thanks Nicolai, for the fast results. I retested.

Resolved, Fix to Include

Stephan


Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Tudor Girba
I do not understand this reaction :(

Doru


On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote:


 On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:

 I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time,
 you actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do.
 Only from time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So,
 the preference should be per browser, not global.


 consider that the issue was open since July. How likely is it that what
 you describe will ever be done?

 Cheers,
 Doru


 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.frwrote:


 On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:

  Marcus Denker-4 wrote
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the
 repositories
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
  Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if
 that
  idea was good:
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
  (this issue is from July)
 
  I commented in the issue:
  +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether
 there
  is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 

 I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite,
 then it’s fixed with no
 problems for those wanting the other behaviour.

 Marcus




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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Marcus wrote:
On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Tudor Girba [hidden email] wrote:

 I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time, you 
 actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do. Only 
 from time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So, the 
 preference should be per browser, not global.
 

consider that the issue was open since July. How likely is it that what you 
describe will ever be done?

Oh, I'm quite positive. I took a look at the code in 30664. Changing view 
preference is already in the right-click menu on the 
repositories, and it is global. I *never* found it there before. Though it has 
something to do with repositories, putting it in the
repositories menu is not helpful, as its context is not a single repository. 
The same problem exists with the package side,
the sort methods don't belong in the context menu of individual packages. 

I'd suggest adding a dropdown-menu on a button in the searchfield-row for both 
the packages and the repositories, 
allowing the setting of all-package and all-repository properties. And of 
course removing the preference and moving
it to the instance side. 

Stephan






Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Doru 

The point of marcus is that we cannot take into account all wishes of 
everybody: else we would not do anything else.
So if somebody thinks that something that is not in our critical path should be 
changed he should submit code.
I have tons of ideas that could be implemented now since we do not have 
infinite ressources we focus on the important 
ones. 

Stef

 I do not understand this reaction :(
 
 Doru
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 12:01 PM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 
 On 31 Dec 2013, at 11:58, Tudor Girba tu...@tudorgirba.com wrote:
 
 I think this should not be a global preference at all. Most of the time, you 
 actually want to commit in the same repository where you always do. Only 
 from time to time do you need to switch and copy to another repo. So, the 
 preference should be per browser, not global.
 
 
 consider that the issue was open since July. How likely is it that what you 
 describe will ever be done?
 
 Cheers,
 Doru
 
 
 On Tue, Dec 31, 2013 at 11:55 AM, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr 
 wrote:
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 14:42, Sean P. DeNigris s...@clipperadams.com wrote:
 
  Marcus Denker-4 wrote
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
  Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that
  idea was good:
 
  https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
  (this issue is from July)
 
  I commented in the issue:
  +1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether there
  is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?
 
 
 I think we should set the default of the preference to be the opposite, then 
 it’s fixed with no
 problems for those wanting the other behaviour.
 
 Marcus
 
 
 
 -- 
 www.tudorgirba.com
 
 Every thing has its own flow
 
 
 
 
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 www.tudorgirba.com
 
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Stéphane Ducasse wrote
 So if somebody thinks that something that is not in our critical path
 should be changed he should submit code.

+1... and here is that person. The question in my post was: will anyone
speak up for this 'feature'? If not, I will be happy to revert to the old
behavior. While Marcus' suggestion will quickly fix the problem, every
setting we add makes the system more complex to understand...



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Sean P. DeNigris wrote
 and here is that person

I would've fixed it already, but since someone went through the trouble to
add a setting, I figured maybe there was a use case I was missing...



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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-31 Thread Stephan Eggermont
Sean wrote:
I would've fixed it already, but since someone went through the trouble to add 
a setting, I figured maybe there was a use case I was missing...

Please go ahead, I won't have any more time to do it today or tomorrow. Design, 
no choice!

Stephan

Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano

On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:37, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the 
 interface. 
 I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
 Here is a list of what I have:
 
 - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an expression. 
 This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the selection with 
 shift-arrow it works. 
 It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the same.

yes, this is a known bug (I don’t remember number)

 
 - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories 
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the 
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).

Nope, there is a change with this. 
There is no more relation 1-N in MC, now is N-N. There is a preference if you 
want the old behaviour.

 
 - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then I 
 select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to save 
 changes.

yep… also a known bug. 

so, 2 bugs, 1 “feature” :)

Esteban

 
 Could one confirm that they are bugs (not new features) ? and if they are 
 already reported.
 
 Cheers,
 Jannik




Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Marcus Denker

On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:

 Hi all,
 
 I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the 
 interface. 
 I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
 Here is a list of what I have:
 
 - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an expression. 
 This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the selection with 
 shift-arrow it works. 
 It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the same.
 
yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only solution 
seems to be to revert tag for now:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection

This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since thursday due 
to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)

 - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories 
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the 
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that idea 
was good:

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
(this issue is from July)


 - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then I 
 select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to save 
 changes.
 

https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
(issue date: 22/11)

In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue tracker 
front, you would not even have seen those problems.


Marcus


Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Nicolai Hess
for issue 12223 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/default.asp?12223

please revert the changes done for editing history in Nautilus.
It makes more trouble than it helps.
It is a nice feature, but it is implementation has too many side effects
(discard changes on close, lose changes when jump through the
history, history has a limit)
If no one has the time to revert this, just give me a GO, and I'll do it :-)


Nicolai










2013/12/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr


 On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the
 interface.
  I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
  Here is a list of what I have:
 
  - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an
 expression. This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the
 selection with shift-arrow it works.
  It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the
 same.
 
 yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only
 solution seems to be to revert tag for now:

 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection

 This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since
 thursday due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)

  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that
 idea was good:


 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)


  - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then
 I select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to
 save changes.
 

 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
 (issue date: 22/11)

 In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue
 tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems.


 Marcus



Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Sven Van Caekenberghe
Hi Nicolai,

On 30 Dec 2013, at 13:26, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote:

 for issue 12223
 
 please revert the changes done for editing history in Nautilus.
 It makes more trouble than it helps.
 It is a nice feature, but it is implementation has too many side effects 
 (discard changes on close, lose changes when jump through the
 history, history has a limit)
 If no one has the time to revert this, just give me a GO, and I'll do it :-)
 
 
 Nicolai

Yes, I think that features has given us a lot of trouble already, I concur with 
your conclusion: revert.

Another thing I have been wanting to say to you: I am very impressed and very 
happy to see you tackle so many diverse issues with so much energy. You really 
embody the ‘just doIt’ tagline. 

Thank you very much, I for one, appreciate it a lot !

Regards,

Sven

BTW, from my perspective you seem to have come from nowhere, which makes your 
contributions even more magical.

 
 2013/12/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the 
  interface.
  I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
  Here is a list of what I have:
 
  - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an 
  expression. This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the 
  selection with shift-arrow it works.
  It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the 
  same.
 
 yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only 
 solution seems to be to revert tag for now:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection
 
 This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since thursday 
 due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)
 
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories 
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the 
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that 
 idea was good:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)
 
 
  - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then I 
  select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to 
  save changes.
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
 (issue date: 22/11)
 
 In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue 
 tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems.
 
 
 Marcus
 



--
Sven Van Caekenberghe
Proudly supporting Pharo
http://pharo.org
http://association.pharo.org
http://consortium.pharo.org







Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Esteban Lorenzano

On 30 Dec 2013, at 13:26, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote:

 for issue 12223
 
 please revert the changes done for editing history in Nautilus.
 It makes more trouble than it helps.
 It is a nice feature, but it is implementation has too many side effects 
 (discard changes on close, lose changes when jump through the
 history, history has a limit)
 If no one has the time to revert this, just give me a GO, and I'll do it :-)

GO! :)

 
 
 Nicolai
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 2013/12/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 
  Hi all,
 
  I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the 
  interface.
  I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
  Here is a list of what I have:
 
  - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an 
  expression. This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the 
  selection with shift-arrow it works.
  It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the 
  same.
 
 yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only 
 solution seems to be to revert tag for now:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection
 
 This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since thursday 
 due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)
 
  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories 
  available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the 
  concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that 
 idea was good:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)
 
 
  - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then I 
  select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to 
  save changes.
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
 (issue date: 22/11)
 
 In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue 
 tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems.
 
 
 Marcus
 



Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Sean P. DeNigris
Marcus Denker-4 wrote
 - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that
 idea was good:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)

I commented in the issue:
+1. I don't like this change at all. Would someone comment on whether there
is an unseen purpose or this is a bug?



-
Cheers,
Sean
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Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread jannik laval
Thank you for your answers guys.

Jannik


2013/12/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr


 On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:

  Hi all,
 
  I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the
 interface.
  I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
  Here is a list of what I have:
 
  - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an
 expression. This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the
 selection with shift-arrow it works.
  It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the
 same.
 
 yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only
 solution seems to be to revert tag for now:

 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection

 This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since
 thursday due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)

  - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that
 idea was good:


 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)


  - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then
 I select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to
 save changes.
 

 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
 (issue date: 22/11)

 In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue
 tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems.


 Marcus




-- 

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École des Mines de Douai
Enseignant-chercheur
http://www.jannik-laval.eu
http://car.mines-douai.fr/


Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

 Hi Nicolai,
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 13:26, Nicolai Hess nicolaih...@web.de wrote:
 
 for issue 12223
 
 please revert the changes done for editing history in Nautilus.
 It makes more trouble than it helps.
 It is a nice feature, but it is implementation has too many side effects 
 (discard changes on close, lose changes when jump through the
 history, history has a limit)
 If no one has the time to revert this, just give me a GO, and I'll do it :-)
 
 
 Nicolai
 
 Yes, I think that features has given us a lot of trouble already, I concur 
 with your conclusion: revert.

Please :)

 
 Another thing I have been wanting to say to you: I am very impressed and very 
 happy to see you tackle so many diverse issues with so much energy. You 
 really embody the ‘just doIt’ tagline. 

+ 1 :)

 Thank you very much, I for one, appreciate it a lot !

Yes me too.

 
 Regards,
 
 Sven
 
 BTW, from my perspective you seem to have come from nowhere, which makes your 
 contributions even more magical.
 
 
 2013/12/30 Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr
 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the 
 interface.
 I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
 Here is a list of what I have:
 
 - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an 
 expression. This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the 
 selection with shift-arrow it works.
 It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the 
 same.
 
 yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only 
 solution seems to be to revert tag for now:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection
 
 This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since thursday 
 due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)
 
 - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories 
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the 
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that 
 idea was good:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)
 
 
 - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then I 
 select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to 
 save changes.
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
 (issue date: 22/11)
 
 In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue 
 tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems.
 
 
Marcus
 
 
 
 
 --
 Sven Van Caekenberghe
 Proudly supporting Pharo
 http://pharo.org
 http://association.pharo.org
 http://consortium.pharo.org



Re: [Pharo-dev] Pharo3 issues

2013-12-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse

On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:44, Marcus Denker marcus.den...@inria.fr wrote:

 
 On 30 Dec 2013, at 12:38, jannik.laval jannik.la...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 Hi all,
 
 I am porting Phratch in Pharo 3.0 and I have some problems with the 
 interface. 
 I uses a one-click Pharo3.0 #30664
 
 Here is a list of what I have:
 
 - in a debugger, it is not possible to do a Cmd-p to evaluate an expression. 
 This appears only if I select with the mouse. If I make the selection with 
 shift-arrow it works. 
 It means that the selection  with mouse or with shift-arrow are not the same.
 
 yes, known bug.  Introduced by 12144 TextModelgetSelection. The only 
 solution seems to be to revert tag for now:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12521/Undo-12144-TextModel-getSelection

I tried during 3 hours to get the integration up and running and this entry was 
the first one on my list :)

 
 This will be in the next update. (I was offline more or less since thursday 
 due to helping my brother moving, so this is not integrated yet)
 
 - In monticello browser: when I select my project, all the repositories 
 available in Pharo are shown. As in Pharo 2.0, it should show only the 
 concerned repositories (2 or 3 max).
 
 Yes, this was made on purpose and there is an issue that questions if that 
 idea was good:
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/10551/All-Monticello-Repositories-are-added-to-all-Working-Copies
 (this issue is from July)
 
 
 - In a browser, when I did a change in the source code of a method, then I 
 select another method, the changes are lost, without asking if I want to 
 save changes.
 
 
 https://pharo.fogbugz.com/f/cases/12223/Nautilus-loses-changes
 (issue date: 22/11)
 
 In short: if there would be more people *actively* helping on the issue 
 tracker front, you would not even have seen those problems.
 
 
   Marcus