Re: [Pharo-users] Packaging question

[Stephane Ducasse]

Ok I will go for the compile time and remove the package so that this is
even more stupid to manage.

On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:24 PM, Guillermo Polito  wrote:

> Well, one baseline with many groups or many baselines would like... From a
> metacello perspective, I'd do one baseline with several groups, because if
> both are in the same repo, there is no nice way to reference each other,
> other than hardcoding paths.
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 8:19 PM, Gabriel Cotelli 
> wrote:
>
>> I will use one Baseline with several groups. And choose to load by
>> default (if only runtime support or runtime plus generator)
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 3:02 PM, Stephane Ducasse <
>> stepharo.s...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> I'm developing a small library named Chrysal (to be announced when
>>> ready - the successor of Cocoon) that supports configuration files
>>> (and conversion of strings into our lovely objects).
>>>
>>> The idea is that based on description objects, a class is generated
>>> statically with all the conversion logic.
>>> Now a configuration for an App is a subclass of one minimal class
>>> called ChrysalConfiguration.
>>> and this class is packaged into the ChrysalRuntime package this is the
>>> only thing needed (I could remove it by automatically recompiling even
>>> more code but looks a bit terrible at the end).
>>>
>>> Now my question.
>>> Should I propose two BaselineOfs? One for the Generator and one for the
>>> Runtime?
>>> I thought so. And generator should depend on the runtime.
>>>
>>> Stef
>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo News Page Outage

[Marcus Denker]

Hi,Thanks, I guess that there is a bug / invalid content somehow that leads to an error.We should improve the blog in general: it uses right now a home-grown blog (part of the website), but it is a bit complex(just that little bit too much) to really post a lot… 	MarcusOn 16 Mar 2018, at 00:27, john pfersich  wrote:I get a error 524 from Cloudflare when I try to bring up the page, but Safari errors out with server not responding when I try to connect with my VPN active. Sent from my iPhoneEncrypted email at jgpfers...@protonmail.comOn Mar 15, 2018, at 01:47, Gerald Klix  wrote:Hi,I experience problems when I try to browse http://pharo.org/news, that is: I consistently hit Cloudflare's error handling page.Can anybody confirm this behaviour?Best Regards,Gerald

Re: [Pharo-users] What is Reef? (was: Tide/Amber)

[Stephane Ducasse]

Yes Willow works on top of seaside and I would love to have also a
seaside extension with more push techno


On Thu, Mar 15, 2018 at 2:40 PM, Esteban A. Maringolo
 wrote:
> Oh my goodness.  Willow works ON TOP of Seaside?
>
> I always thought it was a separate project using some of its concepts
> (canvas, etc.).
>
> Regards,
> Esteban A. Maringolo
>
>
> 2018-03-15 5:53 GMT-03:00 Esteban Lorenzano :
>>
>>
>> On 15 Mar 2018, at 09:47, H. Hirzel  wrote:
>>
>> Hello Esteban
>>
>> Which problem does Reef solve?
>>
>>
>> it was a layer on top of Seaside to work with ajax components.
>> that’s now covered by this other project:
>>
>> https://github.com/ba-st/Willow
>>
>> Esteban
>>
>>
>> Regards
>> Hannes
>>
>> On 3/15/18, Esteban Lorenzano  wrote:
>> 
>>
>> Other reason why no one is using it (Tide / Amber) is, probably, because
>> nobody knows is
>> there: things that are not marketed/exposed/explained are ultimately lost
>> (it happened also with Reef and a lot other projects I had that IMO could
>> have had better luck).
>>
>> Esteban
>>
>>
>>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Ever growing image

[Hilaire]

Okay, may be I just understood wrongly what it is about, or my 
expectation are not correctly aligned.



Le 13/03/2018 à 19:22, Stephane Ducasse a écrit :

Hilaire

I do not have the answer and I do not know but you should have a look
at the bash script.
Because this is where the logic is. I will discuss tomorrow with
guille (right now I'm sick).
Stef


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Re: [Pharo-users] confusion about GTFilter hierarchy and GTFilterSubstring

[Tudor Girba]

Hi,

I am not sure I understand the confusion.

The filter is a strategy used to select objects. GTFilterSubstring filters 
based on finding the input string as a substring in the string representation 
of the objects. You do not see a difference because by default, the logic is a 
substring matching one.

Cheers,
Doru

> On Mar 16, 2018, at 7:29 AM, Peter Uhnák  wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> 
> what exactly is GTFilterSubstring for?
> The observed behavior is identical whether I use it in my spotter method or 
> not. (As I don't know what exactly it does it's hard to observe it in the 
> first place...)
> Also as none of the concrete classes in the GTFilter hierarchy have comments 
> it's hard to guess what is their respective difference/value.
> 
> Thanks,
> Peter

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Re: [Pharo-users] Disabling GTSpotter dive in

[Peter Uhnák]

correction:  spotterForRenderingShapesFor: is not in Pharo 6.1 (it's added
by Roassal2GT)

On Fri, Mar 16, 2018 at 8:01 AM, Peter Uhnák  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> is it possible to disable GTSpotter dive in functionality when the result
> would be empty?
>
> I've tried looking at GTSpotterStep>>canDiveIn: but it seems that no
> matter what there will be at least one processor (at least the "parent"
> one, which is weird).
>
> Also there are two spotter extensions directly on Object (Pharo 6.1)
> * spotterForRenderingShapesFor:
> * spotterRePropertiesFor:
>
> which are always applied... but canDiveIn: was returing true even when I
> disabled them.
>
> Thanks,
> Peter
>

[Pharo-users] Disabling GTSpotter dive in

[Peter Uhnák]

Hi,

is it possible to disable GTSpotter dive in functionality when the result
would be empty?

I've tried looking at GTSpotterStep>>canDiveIn: but it seems that no matter
what there will be at least one processor (at least the "parent" one, which
is weird).

Also there are two spotter extensions directly on Object (Pharo 6.1)
* spotterForRenderingShapesFor:
* spotterRePropertiesFor:

which are always applied... but canDiveIn: was returing true even when I
disabled them.

Thanks,
Peter

[Pharo-users] confusion about GTFilter hierarchy and GTFilterSubstring

[Peter Uhnák]

Hi,

what exactly is GTFilterSubstring for?
The observed behavior is identical whether I use it in my spotter method or
not. (As I don't know what exactly it does it's hard to observe it in the
first place...)
Also as none of the concrete classes in the GTFilter hierarchy have
comments it's hard to guess what is their respective difference/value.

Thanks,
Peter