[Pharo-users] Pharo 9 64 + windows 10

2020-05-30 Thread Vitor Medina Cruz
Hello,

I tried to download Pharo 9 64bits and load latest repository on it. After
loading, Iceberg says I have changes made to pharo (???)


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But I changed nothing, I just loaded the pharo 9latest code on it using
iceberg. I already tried to recalculate dirty packages. What is happening?
How do I revert changes so that my image is the same as the repo?

Regards,
Vitor.


Re: [Pharo-users] Pharo 8. Epicea seems to be turned off. how do I get it working again?

2020-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi Paul

I do not know. 
This is the first time I hear that epicea blocks.
If you close your image and goes to changes you will be able to reopen 
epicea and check your code. 
At start up epicea just check if there was a new session but besides that there 
is nothing 
different than opening it. 

S. 

> On 30 May 2020, at 17:05, PAUL DEBRUICKER  wrote:
> 
> Hi-
> 
> I had an image lock up so I "Force quit" it from the apple menu.  
> 
> When I check "Code Changes" its most recent changes are from 9 days ago.  My 
> most recent save was a few hours ago & I was able to restore the missing code 
> between the save & now by dropping the changes file in the image.  
> 
> How do I double check and get epicea running again in this image?
> 
> Thanks
> 
> 
> 


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03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
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Re: [Pharo-users] [Pharo-dev] About strange email related to smalltalkhub read-only on squeak-dev

2020-05-30 Thread Norbert Hartl
Yes, let us coordinate what to respond. To me this doesn't even sound like Ron. 
Usually he is a rather quite and reasonable guy. Seems to be a lot of 
misunderstandings here (again).
As I was the one copying the Cryptography package to github it concerns me a 
bit. I've been remembered now about yet another strange law suit in the US and 
indeed we need to raise a bit of awareness for this. 

So let's figure out what has to be done. 

Norbert


> Am 30.05.2020 um 14:43 schrieb Stéphane Ducasse :
> 
> Hi all
> 
> This is the week-end and we worked super well yesterday during the sprint. 
> Lot of good enhancements - Thanks a lot to all the participants. 
> I not really happy to be forced to do it on a sunny saturday but I’m doing it 
> to clarify points.
> 
> Esteban sent me this text that was posted on Squeak-Dev (I personally do not 
> read squeak related forums because 
> I have not the time and my focus is Pharo, its consortium, my team, my 
> research and my family). 
> 
> We have to react because 
>   - We do not really at ***all** understand this email
>   - We did not kicked anybody from our mailing-list from ages - so ron is 
> lying. In the past we even had discussion with ron - so we do not 
>   really understand. May be we got problem to log on our mailing-lists. 
>   We have no idea because we are working and not looking at such things.  
>  
>   - When we migrated smalltalkhub to readonly we payed attention to make 
> sure that private projects stay private.
>   We did not migrated smalltalkhub for fun. We MUST do it or it will be 
> done by our infrastructure!
>   - Now the cryptography packages are MIT and they are public anyway. So 
> again we do not understand anything. 
> 
> We do not get why Ron contacted us because we announced the migration 
> publicly way in advance and we will keep 
> the Smalltalkhub frozen repo for at least next 5 years. 
> 
> I feel really sorry to hear such kind of email because we do not want to 
> fight with anybody. 
> Our goal is to make sure that people can work with Pharo and expand their 
> business and knowledge. 
> We are working hard to make sure that people can invent their future with 
> Pharo and people that know us personally 
> know that we are not lying.
> 
> S
> 
> 
>> Hi all,
>> 
>> I've tried to work with the Pharo group but they keep kicking me out of 
>> their mailing list.  I've already mentioned this a number of times to the 
>> Pharo group but nobody seems to care.  
>> 
>> BOLD BOLD BOLD PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY  BOLD BOLD BOLD
>> 
>> I am not a lawyer but we used very good lawyers to make the squeaksource 
>> repository a safe place to do cryptography work.  If you are working on 
>> cryptography DO NOT POST your code anywhere except squeaksource.  Especially 
>> if you are in the USA.  The ONLY repository that is approved to host our 
>> cryptography code in the USA and therefore not subject to criminal 
>> violations is squeaksource.  It is a CRIME in the USA to move code and make 
>> it available on the internet for everyone to download!  It must be hosted on 
>> squeaksoruce.com  or another location that is also 
>> properly registered. 
>> 
>> IF YOU COPIED CRYPTOGRAPHY CODE TO ANOTHER REPOSITORY THAT IS NOT REGISTERED 
>> I would recommend you delete it immediately.
>> 
>> END BOLD!  
>> 
>> Please feel free to post this to the Pharo mailing list because they 
>> apparently do not want to hear from me!
>> 
>> All the best,
>> 
>> Ron Teitelbaum
> 
> 
> 
> Stéphane Ducasse
> http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr  / 
> http://www.pharo.org  
> 03 59 35 87 52
> Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
> FAX 03 59 57 78 50
> TEL 03 59 35 86 16
> S. Ducasse - Inria
> 40, avenue Halley, 
> Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
> Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
> France
> 



[Pharo-users] About strange email related to smalltalkhub read-only on squeak-dev

2020-05-30 Thread Stéphane Ducasse
Hi all

This is the week-end and we worked super well yesterday during the sprint. Lot 
of good enhancements - Thanks a lot to all the participants. 
I not really happy to be forced to do it on a sunny saturday but I’m doing it 
to clarify points.

Esteban sent me this text that was posted on Squeak-Dev (I personally do not 
read squeak related forums because 
I have not the time and my focus is Pharo, its consortium, my team, my research 
and my family). 

We have to react because 
- We do not really at ***all** understand this email
- We did not kicked anybody from our mailing-list from ages - so ron is 
lying. In the past we even had discussion with ron - so we do not 
really understand. May be we got problem to log on our mailing-lists. 
We have no idea because we are working and not looking at such things.  
 
- When we migrated smalltalkhub to readonly we payed attention to make 
sure that private projects stay private.
We did not migrated smalltalkhub for fun. We MUST do it or it will be 
done by our infrastructure!
- Now the cryptography packages are MIT and they are public anyway. So 
again we do not understand anything. 

We do not get why Ron contacted us because we announced the migration publicly 
way in advance and we will keep 
the Smalltalkhub frozen repo for at least next 5 years. 

I feel really sorry to hear such kind of email because we do not want to fight 
with anybody. 
Our goal is to make sure that people can work with Pharo and expand their 
business and knowledge. 
We are working hard to make sure that people can invent their future with Pharo 
and people that know us personally 
know that we are not lying.

S


> Hi all,
> 
> I've tried to work with the Pharo group but they keep kicking me out of their 
> mailing list.  I've already mentioned this a number of times to the Pharo 
> group but nobody seems to care.  
> 
> BOLD BOLD BOLD PLEASE TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY  BOLD BOLD BOLD
> 
> I am not a lawyer but we used very good lawyers to make the squeaksource 
> repository a safe place to do cryptography work.  If you are working on 
> cryptography DO NOT POST your code anywhere except squeaksource.  Especially 
> if you are in the USA.  The ONLY repository that is approved to host our 
> cryptography code in the USA and therefore not subject to criminal violations 
> is squeaksource.  It is a CRIME in the USA to move code and make it available 
> on the internet for everyone to download!  It must be hosted on 
> squeaksoruce.com or another location that is also properly registered. 
> 
> IF YOU COPIED CRYPTOGRAPHY CODE TO ANOTHER REPOSITORY THAT IS NOT REGISTERED 
> I would recommend you delete it immediately.
> 
> END BOLD!  
> 
> Please feel free to post this to the Pharo mailing list because they 
> apparently do not want to hear from me!
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Ron Teitelbaum



Stéphane Ducasse
http://stephane.ducasse.free.fr / http://www.pharo.org 
03 59 35 87 52
Assistant: Aurore Dalle 
FAX 03 59 57 78 50
TEL 03 59 35 86 16
S. Ducasse - Inria
40, avenue Halley, 
Parc Scientifique de la Haute Borne, Bât.A, Park Plaza
Villeneuve d'Ascq 59650
France