Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[andrew glynn]

Thanks, it had occurred to me to take a look at the other drivers in Garage - 
been a bit busy though so might not get to it until tomorrow.


Andrew Glynn



From: Pierce Ng <pie...@samadhiweb.com>
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 8:19 PM
To: Any question about pharo is welcome
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 12:48:56AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote:
> @anyone, If Andrew can get a proof of concept working, what are the best
> frameworks for it to work with?

Write the Oracle set-oriented driver according to UDBC convention. Then, write
a Glorp ORM driver based on it. The Pharo version of Glorp already has
OraclePlatform, which comes from the VW upstream and presumably works, so it
can be used as a reference. There's also Garage which also suppors Glorp. All
are available in the Catalogue Browser.

STH search shows a project named  Garage-Oracle by CraigAllen but 'the page
does not exist, sadly.'

Pierce

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Stephane Ducasse]

Supercool Norbert do you have screenshot for the Pharo success web page ?


On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:40 PM, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> I'm sorry I forgot to post this much earlier. Anyway….
>
> We are proud to add another success story to the pharo portfolio
>
> http://zweidenker.de/en/project/operationstermine-digitalisiert
>
> It is an operation planning tool for an eye surgery clinic. The core system
> is pharo4 and voyage (using mongo). The user interface is done with seaside.
> It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange
> and other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates.
> The tool automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still
> time to do the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an printed
> by the staff.
>
> This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Implanting more pharo everywhere :)
>
> Norbert
>

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Pierce Ng]

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 12:48:56AM +0800, Ben Coman wrote:
> @anyone, If Andrew can get a proof of concept working, what are the best
> frameworks for it to work with?

Write the Oracle set-oriented driver according to UDBC convention. Then, write
a Glorp ORM driver based on it. The Pharo version of Glorp already has
OraclePlatform, which comes from the VW upstream and presumably works, so it
can be used as a reference. There's also Garage which also suppors Glorp. All
are available in the Catalogue Browser.

STH search shows a project named  Garage-Oracle by CraigAllen but 'the page
does not exist, sadly.'

Pierce

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Ben Coman]

Pharo doesn't support C++ directly because of issues with name mangling.
For C++ you need something like SWIG. See Ronie's insightful comments
here...
http://forum.world.st/SWIG-for-Native-Boost-FFI-td4738511.html

However OCILIB describes itself as "written in pure ISO C99 code" which is
much better for us.
A demonstrated working connection would be great.

@anyone, If Andrew can get a proof of concept working, what are the best
frameworks for it to work with?

cheers -ben

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 12:25 AM, andrew glynn  wrote:

> It occurred to me that with the C++ support in Pharo 6 it might be
> relatively easy to use this driver https://github.com/vrogier/ocilib to
> connect to Oracle.  I will look into it over the weekend.
>
>
>
> Andrew Glynn
>
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[andrew glynn]

It occurred to me that with the C++ support in Pharo 6 it might be relatively 
easy to use this driver https://github.com/vrogier/ocilib to connect to Oracle. 
 I will look into it over the weekend.

Andrew Glynn

From: Norbert Hartl [mailto:norb...@hartl.name]
Sent: Friday, June 23, 2017 11:07 AM
To: Pharo users users
Subject: Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised


Am 22.06.2017 um 17:43 schrieb Ben Coman 
<b...@openinworld.com<mailto:b...@openinworld.com>>:


On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Norbert Hartl 
<norb...@hartl.name<mailto:norb...@hartl.name>> wrote:
It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange and 
other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates. The tool 
automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still time to do 
the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an printed by the staff.

This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.

Implanting more pharo everywhere :)

Great to hear of your success here.

There must be a massive market like this...   "Unfortunately XXX didn't offer a 
proper interface, so we had to dive into the depths of their data base for 
reverse engineering, to be able to reconstruct functionalities"
and if Pharo's liveness helped in this reverse engineering, that would make a 
great marketing blog post fro you and Pharo... "How a niche language gives us 
the superpowers to do what others can't."  hehe...

Indeed the market is huge. Pharo was of help here but would have been a huge 
help if an oracle driver would have been existed. The biggest problem so far is 
that it seems they managed to get mixed character encoding in their database. 
That is close to impossible to solve.

Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Norbert Hartl]

> Am 22.06.2017 um 14:45 schrieb Sven Van Caekenberghe :
> 
>> 
>> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:40, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
>> 
>> I'm sorry I forgot to post this much earlier. Anyway….
>> 
>> We are proud to add another success story to the pharo portfolio
>> 
>> http://zweidenker.de/en/project/operationstermine-digitalisiert
>> 
>> It is an operation planning tool for an eye surgery clinic. The core system 
>> is pharo4 and voyage (using mongo). The user interface is done with seaside. 
>> It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange 
>> and other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates. 
>> The tool automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still 
>> time to do the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an printed 
>> by the staff.
> 
> Very nice, well done !
> 
>> This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.
> 
> Yes, what's up with the hipster photographs at 
> http://zweidenker.de/en/about-us  ? 
> Just kidding, nice website !
> 
thanks!

Norbert


>> Implanting more pharo everywhere :)
>> 
>> Norbert

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Norbert Hartl]

> Am 22.06.2017 um 17:43 schrieb Ben Coman :
> 
> 
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Norbert Hartl  > wrote:
> It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange 
> and other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates. The 
> tool automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still time 
> to do the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an printed by 
> the staff.
> 
> This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.
> 
> Implanting more pharo everywhere :)
> 
> Great to hear of your success here.  
> 
> There must be a massive market like this...   "Unfortunately XXX didn't offer 
> a proper interface, so we had to dive into the depths of their data base for 
> reverse engineering, to be able to reconstruct functionalities" 
> and if Pharo's liveness helped in this reverse engineering, that would make a 
> great marketing blog post fro you and Pharo... "How a niche language gives us 
> the superpowers to do what others can't."  hehe...
> 
Indeed the market is huge. Pharo was of help here but would have been a huge 
help if an oracle driver would have been existed. The biggest problem so far is 
that it seems they managed to get mixed character encoding in their database. 
That is close to impossible to solve. 

Norbert


  

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Ben Coman]

On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 8:40 PM, Norbert Hartl  wrote:

> It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange
> and other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates.
> The tool automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still
> time to do the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an
> printed by the staff.
>
> This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.
>
> Implanting more pharo everywhere :)
>

Great to hear of your success here.

There must be a massive market like this...   "Unfortunately XXX didn't
offer a proper interface, so we had to dive into the depths of their data
base for reverse engineering, to be able to reconstruct functionalities"
and if Pharo's liveness helped in this reverse engineering, that would make
a great marketing blog post fro you and Pharo... "How a niche language
gives us the superpowers to do what others can't."  hehe...

cheers -ben

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Tudor Girba]

Nice work!

Doru


> On Jun 22, 2017, at 2:40 PM, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry I forgot to post this much earlier. Anyway….
> 
> We are proud to add another success story to the pharo portfolio
> 
> http://zweidenker.de/en/project/operationstermine-digitalisiert
> 
> It is an operation planning tool for an eye surgery clinic. The core system 
> is pharo4 and voyage (using mongo). The user interface is done with seaside. 
> It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange 
> and other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates. The 
> tool automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still time 
> to do the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an printed by 
> the staff.
> 
> This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.
> 
> Implanting more pharo everywhere :)
> 
> Norbert
> 

--
www.tudorgirba.com
www.feenk.com

"Be rather willing to give than demanding to get."

Re: [Pharo-users] [ANN] success story: surgery appointments digitalised

[Sven Van Caekenberghe]

> On 22 Jun 2017, at 14:40, Norbert Hartl  wrote:
> 
> I'm sorry I forgot to post this much earlier. Anyway….
> 
> We are proud to add another success story to the pharo portfolio
> 
> http://zweidenker.de/en/project/operationstermine-digitalisiert
> 
> It is an operation planning tool for an eye surgery clinic. The core system 
> is pharo4 and voyage (using mongo). The user interface is done with seaside. 
> It interfaces with a legacy patient information system, microsoft exchange 
> and other stuff in order to orchestrate the arrangement of surgery dates. The 
> tool automates planning (which doctor works on which day and has still time 
> to do the operation,….). Finalized plans are produced in PDF an printed by 
> the staff.

Very nice, well done !

> This as a short info. If you have question don't hesitate to ask.

Yes, what's up with the hipster photographs at http://zweidenker.de/en/about-us 
? 
Just kidding, nice website !

> Implanting more pharo everywhere :)
> 
> Norbert
>