Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-26 Thread Ben Coman 
On Sun, Mar 26, 2017 at 11:43 PM, Stephan Eggermont  wrote:
> On 26/03/17 04:16, Pierce Ng wrote:
>>
>> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
>>>
>>> On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:

 Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)
>>>
>>> How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
>>
>>
>> I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's)
>> meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk.
>> Heh.

bah!  what could *small*talk possibly have to do with *big* data.
go gossip somewhere else!
cheers -ben ;)

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-26 Thread Andrew Glynn 
Big data, like the ‘cloud’, is mainly a marketing thing to sell big iron in big 
datacenters.  So if you’re going back to big iron anyway, might as well use 
VisualGen for COBOL.

What?  VisualGen is written in IBM Smalltalk?  Just don’t tell anyone, they’ll 
never guess.

Andrew


On 2017-03-26, 11:43 AM, "Pharo-users on behalf of Stephan Eggermont" 
 wrote:

On 26/03/17 04:16, Pierce Ng wrote:
> On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
>> On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:
>>> Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)
>> How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
>
> I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's)
> meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk.
> Heh.

Yeah. On SO, state you are doing big data with pharo and ask a very 
specific question. On the best way to detect hanging images or so.

Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-26 Thread Stephan Eggermont 

On 26/03/17 04:16, Pierce Ng wrote:

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:

On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)

How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)


I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's)
meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk.
Heh.


Yeah. On SO, state you are doing big data with pharo and ask a very 
specific question. On the best way to detect hanging images or so.


Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-25 Thread Pierce Ng 
On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 07:56:03PM +0100, Stephan Eggermont wrote:
> On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:
> >Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)
> How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)

I was going to answer 'Hadoop!', then went to SO and saw your (Stephan's)
meta-comment on moderators who closed a question on big data in Smalltalk.
Heh.

Pierce

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-25 Thread Stephane Ducasse 
guille and santiago have a worker pool that is planned to serialize test
running locally before commit
based on taskIt.

On Sat, Mar 25, 2017 at 7:56 PM, Stephan Eggermont  wrote:

> On 25/03/17 18:29, serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:
>
>> Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)
>>
>
> How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)
>
> Stephan
>
>
>
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-25 Thread Stephan Eggermont 
On 25/03/17 18:29, 
serge.stinckw...@gmail.com wrote:

Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)


How difficult can it be? We did it 18 years ago in java & delphi :)

Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-25 Thread serge . stinckwich 
Nice ! But do you have a way to automatize this process ? ;-)

Envoyé de mon iPhone

> Le 25 mars 2017 à 18:21, Stephan Eggermont  a écrit :
> 
>> On 25/03/17 16:26, Ben Coman wrote:
>> 
>> Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing...
>> * downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc,
>> * browsing returned data with GTInspector,
>> * in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data,
>> * graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio
>> So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to
>> analyse the data,
>> up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it.
> 
> The analysis for this data is highly parallelizable, so
> - start a dozen images
> - download a 12th of the data each
> - in the main image aggregate search results and visualize
> 
> Stephan
> 
>

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-25 Thread Stephan Eggermont 

On 25/03/17 16:26, Ben Coman wrote:


Now what might be an good marketing hack would be a live video showing...
* downloading StackOverflow survey data via Zinc,
* browsing returned data with GTInspector,
* in the debugger, creating/molding some basic classes around the data,
* graphing the data in Roassal and/or Grafoscopio
So when our target audience of "programmers" go searching ways to
analyse the data,
up comes Pharo showing them a way to do it.


The analysis for this data is highly parallelizable, so
- start a dozen images
- download a 12th of the data each
- in the main image aggregate search results and visualize

Stephan

Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-25 Thread Yuriy Tymchuk 
This is really strange. Because according to the survey every 2 our of 3 
participants identified Smalltalk as a language they love. However I’d say that 
only 1 of every 20 developers that I meet knows what Smalltalk is.

Uko

> On 24 Mar 2017, at 13:38, Cyril Ferlicot D.  wrote:
> 
> On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
>> Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results?
>> 
> 
> https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017
> 
>> Cheers,
>> 
>> Offray
>> 
>> 
> 
> 
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> 
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> 
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Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-24 Thread Cyril Ferlicot D. 
On 24/03/2017 13:33, Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas wrote:
> Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results?
> 

https://stackoverflow.com/insights/survey/2017

> Cheers,
> 
> Offray
> 
> 


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Cyril Ferlicot

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Re: [Pharo-users] Smalltalk on Stack Overflow Developers Survey 2017

2017-03-24 Thread Offray Vladimir Luna Cárdenas 

Thanks Davorin. Where can we look at the results?

Cheers,

Offray


On 24/03/17 05:10, Davorin Rusevljan wrote:

sorry to abuse pharo list, but I guess it is related enough.

Smalltalk made it to SO developer Survey. Unfortunately it did not 
appear in most used languages list, but it got great place as "Second 
most loved language"!


So for those of you who participated in the survey, it payed off.

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