Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
Must get more funding for us then... :) But would be interesting. Any good pictures of a really good example online anywhere ? Darren ¦ D P Ingram ¦ Ab Ingram Oy ¦ ¦ darren at ingram.fi ¦ www.ingram.fi ¦ ¦ ¦ MUSIC LIBRARY FINLAND - www.musiclibrary.fi ¦ ¦ +358 6 781 0275 (FIN) ¦ extn 8001 ¦ On 28 maj 2011, at 04.29, Rich wrote: If you are looking for an example of an AN machine that has all of its handles and latches functional, good paint, no dry rot, all internal spars, intact, complete manual, and not looking like it has been drug behind a French 75 artillry cart it will cost more than $800.00. The thing weighs something like 80lb or more. Shipping would be painful. On 05/27/2011 06:39 PM, Peter Fraser wrote: Exactly correct - and a far better way of describing the meaning and experience of the beast than my original words on the topic. Upon re-reading my earlier note, written while jostling along on public transportation, I see that I came off as rather brusque in my assessment of the thing. What I meant to say was that these things are not for casual collectors and are bigger and heavier, while not being very visually attractive, than most folks would enjoy. So especially considering the prices they seem to be commanding, it may not be worth the pursuit for a lot of collectors. I was just trying to share my own experience with an army/navy dd, which wasn't unpleasant financially, but otherwise not very worthwhile at all. On May 27, 2011, at 12:45 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Ugly and clunkyness of the A N, was part of the beauty of the History of it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison AN, it would be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the creation of the Edison A N machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be one of the highlights from my years of collecting. - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser @mac.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to completist collectors and WWI fans. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser @mac.com On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taneybill@ taney .com wrote: I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercermaxbud12@ wowway .com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. Check religiously and one will pop up. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bill Taneybill@ taney .com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Cc: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I have seen 4 up for sale
Re: [Phono-L] Record Cabinets For Sale
That mahogany one is just 1 shy of what I need, my Pathephone is 17-1/2 x 18-1/2! John --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com wrote: From: Darrell Lehman nickja...@gmail.com Subject: [Phono-L] Record Cabinets For Sale To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:51 PM A bit late but anybody need a nice record cabinet - three available that can be delivered to Union for a nominal fee. Need to know as soon as possible if there's any .interest best, Darrell Cylinder cabinet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/461/0511CylDrawer.jpg Mahogany 78 cabinet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/461/0511MahogCab.jpg Oak 78 cabinet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/461/0511OakCab.jpg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army /Navy DD
On the special machines Edison started the serial numbers with 1001, like the Amberola 60 and 80. With regards to the number known you have to rely upon other collectors to provide serial numbers and with rare machines this is normally not possible. I am still looking for O reproducer information on reproducers with serial numbers below 5000. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army /Navy DD
Here is another really late serial number for an Edison AN. Serial number 3116. Highest I have seen. http://forum.talkingmachine.info/viewtopic.php?f=2t=5098start=0 Bruce - Original Message - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 8:44:17 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army /Navy DD On the special machines Edison started the serial numbers with 1001, like the Amberola 60 and 80. With regards to the number known you have to rely upon other collectors to provide serial numbers and with rare machines this is normally not possible. I am still looking for O reproducer information on reproducers with serial numbers below 5000. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
I like the AN's ruggedness and design, and I remember Doug Anderson's very well (he was justifiably proud of it), but it was a somewhat difficult machine in many ways. One day I would like to find an early Decca trench model reflector machine, one actually from 1914-18, which was a more truly portable unit that saw considerable use in France. I have a later 20s Decca Jr, which is much smaller than the earlier trench models but surprisingly efficient tonally, and even the Jr remained in use by the British forces into the 20s and 30s. The 1926 film _The Flag Lieutenant_ with Henry Edwards shows one being used on a Royal Navy vessel. PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:45 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy Ugly and clunkyness of the A N, was part of the beauty of the History of it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison AN, it would be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the creation of the Edison A N machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be one of the highlights from my years of collecting. - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser @mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to completist collectors and WWI fans. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser @mac.com On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taney bill@ taney .com wrote: I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbud12@ wowway .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. Check religiously and one will pop up. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bill Taney bill@ taney .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Cc: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I have seen 4 up for sale in the last 2 years on eBay. They seem to be worth about 800 bucks. Bill Sent from my iPhone On May 26, 2011, at 8:47 AM, ny victrolaman victrolaman @ gmail .com wrote: Thanks. I've read the Frow book many times, but I was hoping for something more recent and maybe crowd-sourced. How about the second half of my inquiry: How difficult would it be to find one today in fairly good condition, and how much should such an example command in today's market? On Thu, May 26, 2011 at 8:11 AM, Philip Carli Philip_ Carli @ pittsford . monroe . edu wrote: Check the Frow book -- he certainly gives production history for the model. PC
Re: [Phono-L] Record Cabinets For Sale
Oh well.. cut a piece of plywood, cover it with an appropriate piece of cloth (or paint) and go for it! john robles wrote: That mahogany one is just 1 shy of what I need, my Pathephone is 17-1/2 x 18-1/2! John --- On Fri, 5/27/11, Darrell Lehmannickja...@gmail.com wrote: From: Darrell Lehmannickja...@gmail.com Subject: [Phono-L] Record Cabinets For Sale To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Friday, May 27, 2011, 8:51 PM A bit late but anybody need a nice record cabinet - three available that can be delivered to Union for a nominal fee. Need to know as soon as possible if there's any .interest best, Darrell Cylinder cabinet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/461/0511CylDrawer.jpg Mahogany 78 cabinet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/461/0511MahogCab.jpg Oak 78 cabinet: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/461/0511OakCab.jpg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
I own a beautiful full-color Victor ad from 1917 or 1918 called Cheering Our Boys in France that shows a bunch of American WWI soldiers in a dugout in France, sitting around a Victrola IX, which is perched on its shipping crate. Apparently, Victor thought the IX was suitable for that kind of duty. Does anyone know if any were actually shipped to France for that purpose? Has anyone ever seen a photograph of one in use in the field during that war? From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:16:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I like the AN's ruggedness and design, and I remember Doug Anderson's very well (he was justifiably proud of it), but it was a somewhat difficult machine in many ways. One day I would like to find an early Decca trench model reflector machine, one actually from 1914-18, which was a more truly portable unit that saw considerable use in France. I have a later 20s Decca Jr, which is much smaller than the earlier trench models but surprisingly efficient tonally, and even the Jr remained in use by the British forces into the 20s and 30s. The 1926 film _The Flag Lieutenant_ with Henry Edwards shows one being used on a Royal Navy vessel. PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:45 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy Ugly and clunkyness of the A N, was part of the beauty of the History of it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison AN, it would be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the creation of the Edison A N machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be one of the highlights from my years of collecting. - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser @mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to completist collectors and WWI fans. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser @mac.com On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taney bill@ taney .com wrote: I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbud12@ wowway .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. Check religiously and one will pop up. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bill Taney bill@ taney .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Cc: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I have
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
I've seen, and maybe have, a pic of a Victrola IV/VI (?) in the field. Could dig it out if anybody cares richard_ru...@hotmail.com wrote: I own a beautiful full-color Victor ad from 1917 or 1918 called Cheering Our Boys in France that shows a bunch of American WWI soldiers in a dugout in France, sitting around a Victrola IX, which is perched on its shipping crate. Apparently, Victor thought the IX was suitable for that kind of duty. Does anyone know if any were actually shipped to France for that purpose? Has anyone ever seen a photograph of one in use in the field during that war? From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:16:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I like the AN's ruggedness and design, and I remember Doug Anderson's very well (he was justifiably proud of it), but it was a somewhat difficult machine in many ways. One day I would like to find an early Decca trench model reflector machine, one actually from 1914-18, which was a more truly portable unit that saw considerable use in France. I have a later 20s Decca Jr, which is much smaller than the earlier trench models but surprisingly efficient tonally, and even the Jr remained in use by the British forces into the 20s and 30s. The 1926 film _The Flag Lieutenant_ with Henry Edwards shows one being used on a Royal Navy vessel. PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:45 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy Ugly and clunkyness of the A N, was part of the beauty of the History of it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison AN, it would be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the creation of the Edison A N machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be one of the highlights from my years of collecting. - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser @mac.com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to completist collectors and WWI fans. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser @mac.com On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taneybill@ taney .com wrote: I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercermaxbud12@ wowway .com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. Check religiously and one will pop up. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bill Taneybill@ taney .com To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Cc: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Thursday, May 26, 2011 10:57 PM Subject: Re:
[Phono-L] Polypon
Hi. I would like to get some info about a polypon. See pictures. I hope someone can help with type and year of production. All the best from Norway Trygve Sandberg ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
We have that AD as well. Does the Victrola appear to look green to you? That's the way I remember it. -Scot Denise Corbett -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of richard_ru...@hotmail.com Sent: Saturday, May 28, 2011 9:04 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I own a beautiful full-color Victor ad from 1917 or 1918 called Cheering Our Boys in France that shows a bunch of American WWI soldiers in a dugout in France, sitting around a Victrola IX, which is perched on its shipping crate. Apparently, Victor thought the IX was suitable for that kind of duty. Does anyone know if any were actually shipped to France for that purpose? Has anyone ever seen a photograph of one in use in the field during that war? From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:16:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I like the AN's ruggedness and design, and I remember Doug Anderson's very well (he was justifiably proud of it), but it was a somewhat difficult machine in many ways. One day I would like to find an early Decca trench model reflector machine, one actually from 1914-18, which was a more truly portable unit that saw considerable use in France. I have a later 20s Decca Jr, which is much smaller than the earlier trench models but surprisingly efficient tonally, and even the Jr remained in use by the British forces into the 20s and 30s. The 1926 film _The Flag Lieutenant_ with Henry Edwards shows one being used on a Royal Navy vessel. PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:45 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy Ugly and clunkyness of the A N, was part of the beauty of the History of it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison AN, it would be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the creation of the Edison A N machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be one of the highlights from my years of collecting. - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser @mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to completist collectors and WWI fans. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser @mac.com On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taney bill@ taney .com wrote: I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbud12@ wowway .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I agree with Bill. I've seen four or five A/N on ebay in that time span. I remember the cheapest was 650.00, the others were right at 800.00. One was in very nice cosmetic condition with some paperwork. I almost bid on it myself it was so nice, then came to my senses about 'where' I would put it. Check religiously and one will pop
Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy
There are a number of postcards from the WWI era that show Victrola VIs and IXs in use. It should be pointed out that in the field for US troops means rear areas such as hospitals, supply depots, and rest areas. I've never seen a photo of a talking machine in an American trench or dugout. The Germans, on the other hand, occupied generally higher ground and built deeper dugouts and bunkers. I've seen a few photos of talking machines in German forward areas. George P. -Original Message- From: richard_rubin richard_ru...@hotmail.com To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, May 28, 2011 9:24 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I own a beautiful full-color Victor ad from 1917 or 1918 called Cheering Our Boys in France that shows a bunch of American WWI soldiers in a dugout in France, sitting around a Victrola IX, which is perched on its shipping crate. Apparently, Victor thought the IX was suitable for that kind of duty. Does anyone know if any were actually shipped to France for that purpose? Has anyone ever seen a photograph of one in use in the field during that war? From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Sat, 28 May 2011 11:16:30 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I like the AN's ruggedness and design, and I remember Doug Anderson's very well (he was justifiably proud of it), but it was a somewhat difficult machine in many ways. One day I would like to find an early Decca trench model reflector machine, one actually from 1914-18, which was a more truly portable unit that saw considerable use in France. I have a later 20s Decca Jr, which is much smaller than the earlier trench models but surprisingly efficient tonally, and even the Jr remained in use by the British forces into the 20s and 30s. The 1926 film _The Flag Lieutenant_ with Henry Edwards shows one being used on a Royal Navy vessel. PC From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 3:45 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy Ugly and clunkyness of the A N, was part of the beauty of the History of it. It was never intended to be put on display in your living room (Quite a frightening thought), but rather designed to be rugged, and dependable and useful for the boys in the battlefield to lug it around and play records around the campfire. Edison designed it for one purpose in mind. and that was doing his patriotic best, to design a machine that would be functional and hold up under unusual conditions and circumstances. If you are not into the colorful history of Edison, World War I, and the Edison AN, it would be a certain mistake to buy one . I gave a lecture about a month ago at a Local Historical Society, on Edison's Phonographs and Diamond Disc Records, and took along my Edison Army Navy Machine, I set up early and kept it covered until the final selection of the evening, which was Let us not forget played on the Edison Army Navy Machine. I told the story of the creation of the Edison A N machine and the Let Us Not Forget Record, and then unveiled the machine. The crowd of History buffs were absolutely fascinated by it and ran up to take digitals as it played LUNF . Sharing that machine and record and the history behind both of them with this highly receptive crowd will always be one of the highlights from my years of collecting. - Original Message - From: Peter Fraser pjfraser @mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 2:27:19 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army Navy I had one and sold it for three times what I paid. Couldn't wait to get rid of it. Ugly and clunky and huge and ungainly and heavy, and useful only to completist collectors and WWI fans. Sent from my iPhone -- Peter pjfraser @mac.com On May 27, 2011, at 9:53 AM, William Taney bill@ taney .com wrote: I bid on one of them too. I think I stopped at about 700 and also had the feeling it would be a machine that might wind up in storage and felt that would be a waste (what good is a machine if you don't play it occasionally) Bill On May 27, 2011, at 10:40 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Makes you wonder what happened to all of the AN machines that went over to the Battlefields of Europe to entertain the Troups , and what happened to all of them after the War was over. How many were abandoned over there and never brought back, and if not, what the did the respective Military units do with the machines that eventually found there way back to the USA ? Bruce - Original Message - From: Bruce Mercer maxbud12@ wowway .com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@ oldcrank .org Sent: Friday, May 27, 2011 11:21:12 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison Army
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