Re: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall
Hey Steve, Thanks for the Humpty Dumpty history lesson. All this time I understood Humpy Dumpty wasn't an obese egg, but really a rather obese cannon used in the Siege of Colchester during the English Civil War. This three month battle was between the Parlimentarians (today's conservatives, constitutionalists) against the Royalists (today's liberals, supporting the monarchy). Although there is much speculation about the original term Humpty Dumpty, we can all benefit by learning more English History as many lessons learned hundreds of years ago are playing out today. For the serious reader, the story about dissatisfaction with the government and economic decline is pretty much the same, the parallels from three hundred years ago are amazing. Too bad there are no Victor recordings about the real story. By the way, there is no truth to the story about why Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:31:05 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall HUMPTY DUMPTY by Sterling, Moran, H. von Tilzer as sung by Billy Murray Ed. SmalleEveryone knows Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. But no one seems to know what made poor Humpty Dumpty fall. My great-grand-dad was just a lad, but he was there to see. The story's true, so I'll tell you just what he told to me. Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had an awful fall. A girl was passing by. Her skirt was rather high. She kept on going, never knowing-- Glory! How the wind was blowing! Humpty Dumpty nearly lost an eye. If you're a man, you know the reason why. She said, Would you please tie my shoe? Of course, 'twas just a stall. But that's what made poor Humpty Dumpty fall. Humpty Dumpty lived in the time Of old Mother Goose and her nursery rhyme. Hi diddle diddle The profiteers fiddle We all have to dance to their tune. Prices leap to the sky Meat was never so high Since the cow jumped over the moon! You know, I asked my great-grand-dad if Humpty broke a leg. He said, He went completely broke, because he was an egg. She looked so swell That Humpty fell And his poor life was spoiled; But don't forget, He'd be here yet If he had been hard-boiled! Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had an awful fall. The girlie passed him by; She winked her pretty eye. He saw the clocking on her stocking-- Glory my! he said, How shocking! Humpty Dumpty turned around and looked and looked and looked and looked And that's how Humpty Dumpty's goose was cooked. He was weak and took a peek But if you had his view, I bet you'd do like Humpty Dumpty too. Hickory dickory doc, The mouse found a flask in the clock. Two drinks of that stuff Made the mouse feel so tough That he chased all the cats on the block! London Bridge is falling down All around the mulberry bush Jack and Jill Went up the hill For all I know, they're up there still. (?) Down among the wildflowers. All the king's horses and all the king's men Who saw poor Humpty fall Could never put him back upon the wall. From: cdh...@earthlink.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:41:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective Yeah, I have the record. Much as I remember lyrics, I can't come up with the reason the poor soul flopped. It's a real good recording with a lot of good musicianship, too. Can't remember that, either. My Victor Master book is in another room. It's an orthophonic, so there may be yet another one about the unfortunate egg. Original Message: - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:39:51 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective Has anyone heard Humpty Dumpty on Victor? We learn what made him fall. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall
Thanks for the history lesson Jack. From what I understand, the good guys eventually won the war, and yes the parallels are pretty amazing. Bruce - Original Message - From: Jack Whelan jackwhe...@hotmail.com To: Phono-L phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:23:41 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall Hey Steve, Thanks for the Humpty Dumpty history lesson. All this time I understood Humpy Dumpty wasn't an obese egg, but really a rather obese cannon used in the Siege of Colchester during the English Civil War. This three month battle was between the Parlimentarians (today's conservatives, constitutionalists) against the Royalists (today's liberals, supporting the monarchy). Although there is much speculation about the original term Humpty Dumpty, we can all benefit by learning more English History as many lessons learned hundreds of years ago are playing out today. For the serious reader, the story about dissatisfaction with the government and economic decline is pretty much the same, the parallels from three hundred years ago are amazing. Too bad there are no Victor recordings about the real story. By the way, there is no truth to the story about why Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:31:05 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall HUMPTY DUMPTY by Sterling, Moran, H. von Tilzer as sung by Billy Murray Ed. SmalleEveryone knows Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. But no one seems to know what made poor Humpty Dumpty fall. My great-grand-dad was just a lad, but he was there to see. The story's true, so I'll tell you just what he told to me. Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had an awful fall. A girl was passing by. Her skirt was rather high. She kept on going, never knowing-- Glory! How the wind was blowing! Humpty Dumpty nearly lost an eye. If you're a man, you know the reason why. She said, Would you please tie my shoe? Of course, 'twas just a stall. But that's what made poor Humpty Dumpty fall. Humpty Dumpty lived in the time Of old Mother Goose and her nursery rhyme. Hi diddle diddle The profiteers fiddle We all have to dance to their tune. Prices leap to the sky Meat was never so high Since the cow jumped over the moon! You know, I asked my great-grand-dad if Humpty broke a leg. He said, He went completely broke, because he was an egg. She looked so swell That Humpty fell And his poor life was spoiled; But don't forget, He'd be here yet If he had been hard-boiled! Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had an awful fall. The girlie passed him by; She winked her pretty eye. He saw the clocking on her stocking-- Glory my! he said, How shocking! Humpty Dumpty turned around and looked and looked and looked and looked And that's how Humpty Dumpty's goose was cooked. He was weak and took a peek But if you had his view, I bet you'd do like Humpty Dumpty too. Hickory dickory doc, The mouse found a flask in the clock. Two drinks of that stuff Made the mouse feel so tough That he chased all the cats on the block! London Bridge is falling down All around the mulberry bush Jack and Jill Went up the hill For all I know, they're up there still. (?) Down among the wildflowers. All the king's horses and all the king's men Who saw poor Humpty fall Could never put him back upon the wall. From: cdh...@earthlink.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:41:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective Yeah, I have the record. Much as I remember lyrics, I can't come up with the reason the poor soul flopped. It's a real good recording with a lot of good musicianship, too. Can't remember that, either. My Victor Master book is in another room. It's an orthophonic, so there may be yet another one about the unfortunate egg. Original Message: - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:39:51 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective Has anyone heard Humpty Dumpty on Victor? We learn what made him fall. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall
I used to believe that a lesson from history showed you who the good guys were/are and who the bad guys were/are. Now I find myself wondering what do you do when you discover that all of them are bad... Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 11:44:54 + From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall Thanks for the history lesson Jack. From what I understand, the good guys eventually won the war, and yes the parallels are pretty amazing. Bruce - Original Message - From: Jack Whelan jackwhe...@hotmail.com To: Phono-L phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 7:23:41 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall Hey Steve, Thanks for the Humpty Dumpty history lesson. All this time I understood Humpy Dumpty wasn't an obese egg, but really a rather obese cannon used in the Siege of Colchester during the English Civil War. This three month battle was between the Parlimentarians (today's conservatives, constitutionalists) against the Royalists (today's liberals, supporting the monarchy). Although there is much speculation about the original term Humpty Dumpty, we can all benefit by learning more English History as many lessons learned hundreds of years ago are playing out today. For the serious reader, the story about dissatisfaction with the government and economic decline is pretty much the same, the parallels from three hundred years ago are amazing. Too bad there are no Victor recordings about the real story. By the way, there is no truth to the story about why Jack and Jill went up the hill. Jack From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Fri, 14 Oct 2011 21:31:05 -0400 Subject: [Phono-L] What made Humpty Dumpty fall HUMPTY DUMPTY by Sterling, Moran, H. von Tilzer as sung by Billy Murray Ed. SmalleEveryone knows Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. But no one seems to know what made poor Humpty Dumpty fall. My great-grand-dad was just a lad, but he was there to see. The story's true, so I'll tell you just what he told to me. Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had an awful fall. A girl was passing by. Her skirt was rather high. She kept on going, never knowing-- Glory! How the wind was blowing! Humpty Dumpty nearly lost an eye. If you're a man, you know the reason why. She said, Would you please tie my shoe? Of course, 'twas just a stall. But that's what made poor Humpty Dumpty fall. Humpty Dumpty lived in the time Of old Mother Goose and her nursery rhyme. Hi diddle diddle The profiteers fiddle We all have to dance to their tune. Prices leap to the sky Meat was never so high Since the cow jumped over the moon! You know, I asked my great-grand-dad if Humpty broke a leg. He said, He went completely broke, because he was an egg. She looked so swell That Humpty fell And his poor life was spoiled; But don't forget, He'd be here yet If he had been hard-boiled! Humpty Dumpty sat upon a wall. Humpty Dumpty had an awful fall. The girlie passed him by; She winked her pretty eye. He saw the clocking on her stocking-- Glory my! he said, How shocking! Humpty Dumpty turned around and looked and looked and looked and looked And that's how Humpty Dumpty's goose was cooked. He was weak and took a peek But if you had his view, I bet you'd do like Humpty Dumpty too. Hickory dickory doc, The mouse found a flask in the clock. Two drinks of that stuff Made the mouse feel so tough That he chased all the cats on the block! London Bridge is falling down All around the mulberry bush Jack and Jill Went up the hill For all I know, they're up there still. (?) Down among the wildflowers. All the king's horses and all the king's men Who saw poor Humpty fall Could never put him back upon the wall. From: cdh...@earthlink.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 13 Oct 2011 22:41:15 -0400 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective Yeah, I have the record. Much as I remember lyrics, I can't come up with the reason the poor soul flopped. It's a real good recording with a lot of good musicianship, too. Can't remember that, either. My Victor Master book is in another room. It's an orthophonic, so there may be yet another one about the unfortunate egg. Original Message: - From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 13:39:51 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective Has anyone heard Humpty Dumpty on Victor? We learn what made him fall. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] WTB: Victrola 1050
Dear Phonolisters: I am looking for a Victrola 1050 changer to add to my collection. If you have one for know of one for sale, please contact me at: rochr...@gmail.com Regards, GrnMountainBill ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Opera Horn Elbow on Ebay
Hello Everyone, The Opera Elbow that so many of you helped us to identify is now on Ebay. Here is a link to the auction: http://www.ebay.com/itm/120794417206?ssPageName=STRK:MESELX:IT_trksid=p3984.m1555.l2649#ht_889wt_1398 The item number is # 120794417206 just in case the link is broken. Thanks again for all your help! Melissa --- On Thu, 10/13/11, cdh...@earthlink.net cdh...@earthlink.net wrote: From: cdh...@earthlink.net cdh...@earthlink.net Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thursday, October 13, 2011, 10:59 PM I'm right along with Andy Baron. When I did a presentation for Phonovention a few years ago, I worked around the real tear jerkers. I showed pix of some of the sheet music that was published before and during the war, but mainly because I didn't have the records, or didn't want to use them, I avoided them. There was a silent film, made in 1925, titled The Big Parade. I was able to get it from Amazon, on VHS tape. It had some pretty good footage in it, and I projectede pieces of it with the show. Good movie. More songs were written about WW I than about any other war before or since. One aspect of My Dream Of The Big Parade, was that Billy Murray was totally out of his role in the recitation in the middle of the record. Even today, I have to mop my eyes when I play the record. The Victor Master book shows it as being recorded in 1926. It was mighty good. The Jolson record about the PFC who was working his company commander over is one of my favorites. I can appreciate it from both sides, because when I was in the Army, I was a GI and Officer, both. I love the record! Original Message: - From: bruce78...@comcast.net Date: Tue, 11 Oct 2011 17:22:55 + (UTC) To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective all that WWI musical history talk, is going to inspire me to put on some old stuff that I haven't Played in years such as Would you rather be a Colonel with an Eagle on his shoulder, or a Private with a chicken on his Knee ? or Hunting the Hun or Let's Bury the Hatchet (in the Kaiser's Head). - Original Message - From: Andrew Baron a...@popyrus.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, October 11, 2011 12:58:27 PM Subject: [Phono-L] WWI music perspective I'm chiming in here on the WWI music comments, so changing the subject line, but leaving the most recent prior emails copied below, from Melissa's thread: Re: [Phono-L] Victor III is Working! Thank you! I too, find WWI music quirky and engaging, and at times very poignant, earnest and introspective, in addition to the audacious, indomitable upbeat numbers that are more often called to mind in the general public's perception of that conflict's music. It all depends on the record. I think my first WWI era 78 came to me from a friend of my mother's, around 1976 when I was 14. It was a song full of pathos bordering on schmaltz, recorded shortly after the war, called Don't Steal Daddy's Medal (subtitled The Burglar and the Child): With Tears down her cheeks the little child cried, don't steal Daddy's medal - He won it for bravery - It was found by his side before he died, and sent to my mother and me It's fascinating to track how sentimentality played such a changing role in the WWI years leading up to and during America's involvement in the war, and then how records like Don't Steal Daddy's Medal and others kept it in the public awareness for years after. The newest WWI inspired record I'm aware of is My Dream of the Big Parade, recorded more than seven years after the end of the war. In the early years when America was neutral, we had records like the fabulous pairing on Victor 17716 of I Didn't Raise My Boy to be a Soldier (from 1915), with its prophetic opening line Ten million Soldiers to the war must go who may never return again, paired with Stay Down Here Where You Belong. I think if I had to pick my favorite of a few dozen WWI records in my collection, it would be this title. It's a biting condemnation of war, with the construct of the Devil talking to his son who wanted to go Up Above... It was composed by none other than Irving Berlin (who later spent a lot of time and energy trying to keep it buried and prevent public performance of it). An example of one great line from Stay Down Here Where You Belong is They're breaking the hearts of mothers, making BUTCHERS out of brothers. You'll find more HELL up there than there is down below. (My caps denoting emphasized, nearly shouted words in the recording). The flip side of this reco rd, noted above and set to a militaristic beat, has the sung lyrics as opposed to the more commonly found instrumental-only versions that were stripped of their words as the war heated up for this country. On a very heartfelt note, are three of the most popular introspective recordings of the period: There's a Long, Long Trail, Keep the Home Fires Burning and
[Phono-L] Ortho Victrola 4-40 Before and After
I decided to tackle a project I have been wanting to do for over a year now, and freshen the finish on my VV-4-40 with Howard's Restor-A-Finish. The existing finish was pretty worn and dull, and Restor-A-Finish is the first thing to try before refinishing. I am not sure what it does but it really brought back some life to the finish. I like original finishes and I don't like to refinish unless it is absolutely necessary. Here is a link to the before and after shots. I always take them because I like to see the comparison. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Ortho Victrola 4-40 Before and After
Excellent work, John. Well done! Nice gentle restoration. Jack Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:59:30 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Ortho Victrola 4-40 Before and After I decided to tackle a project I have been wanting to do for over a year now, and freshen the finish on my VV-4-40 with Howard's Restor-A-Finish. The existing finish was pretty worn and dull, and Restor-A-Finish is the first thing to try before refinishing. I am not sure what it does but it really brought back some life to the finish. I like original finishes and I don't like to refinish unless it is absolutely necessary. Here is a link to the before and after shots. I always take them because I like to see the comparison. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Ortho Victrola 4-40 Before and After
Thanksl I am just sorry it took so long to get to! After I did the Diamond Disc A-200 I sort of got the bug to do more. From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Saturday, October 15, 2011 4:45 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Ortho Victrola 4-40 Before and After Looks great... Date: Sat, 15 Oct 2011 14:59:30 -0700 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Ortho Victrola 4-40 Before and After I decided to tackle a project I have been wanting to do for over a year now, and freshen the finish on my VV-4-40 with Howard's Restor-A-Finish. The existing finish was pretty worn and dull, and Restor-A-Finish is the first thing to try before refinishing. I am not sure what it does but it really brought back some life to the finish. I like original finishes and I don't like to refinish unless it is absolutely necessary. Here is a link to the before and after shots. I always take them because I like to see the comparison. http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/ John Robles ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] E+ Edison records
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Buck-Fanshaws-Funeral-Edison-50576-Harry-E-Humphrey-/380375843871 http://www.ebay.com/itm/EDISON-RECORD-JOHN-T-SCOPES-TRIAL-VIOLIN-AND-GUITAR-/300610043171 Check out his other two, they are just as nice. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
