Re: [Phono-L] an interesting price for al self

2012-08-13 Thread zonophone2006
HI
I have two of them 
so i am rich 
lol
not really but the earlier ones were numbered and at that time
al was nice enough to sign them
best to all
zono



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From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
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Sent: Sun, Aug 12, 2012 3:54 pm
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] an interesting price for al self



http://www.ebay.com/itm/The-Edison-Cylinder-Phonographs-George-Frow-1978-numbered-05-first-edition-/150874254099
 
I did not know they were numbered until I saw this auction. No bidders yet. 
  

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[Phono-L] Help with Edison Standard tension gizmo

2012-08-13 Thread David Barnett
I finally got a chance to work on an Edison Standard phonograph  
project I've had sitting around for ages. The motor is rough, but  
after replacing the governor weights (they were falling off) the  
motor actually runs. And for a good long time, too!


The next step is to glue up the belt material I have and connect the  
motor to the topworks. But the tensioner just flops around. There is  
something that looks like a spring wound around the part that  
connects the tensioner to the motor works, but it is only connected  
to one end. If I hold the other end of this 'spring' with pliers,  
then the tensioner springs back when I push the lower part with my  
finger. That's just the action that would keep the belt tension at  
the proper level. But how should this be connected, and to what? Any  
good pictures of such a thing would be appreciated. I could send a  
picture of that part to anyone who would try to give me a good answer.


There is also some rust on the underside of the bedplate, around the  
edges, about where it sits on the wooden case. Any good suggestions  
for cleaning it and keeping it from rusting any further? A wire brush  
and rustoleum? Anything better?


Thank you.

David Barnett

David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com





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Re: [Phono-L] Help with Edison Standard tension gizmo

2012-08-13 Thread Vinyl Visions

Hi David,This is not about your Edison problem... my ancestors won't let me see 
your show - Fair Liberty's Call. They were too upset over the outcome of the 
rebellion and had to move to Ontario... :)Their thought was - Do you want one 
tyrant 3,000 miles away, or 3,000 tyrants one mile away? Maybe they were 
right...

 Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:19:06 -0400
 From: da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Help with Edison Standard tension gizmo
 
 I finally got a chance to work on an Edison Standard phonograph  
 project I've had sitting around for ages. The motor is rough, but  
 after replacing the governor weights (they were falling off) the  
 motor actually runs. And for a good long time, too!
 
 The next step is to glue up the belt material I have and connect the  
 motor to the topworks. But the tensioner just flops around. There is  
 something that looks like a spring wound around the part that  
 connects the tensioner to the motor works, but it is only connected  
 to one end. If I hold the other end of this 'spring' with pliers,  
 then the tensioner springs back when I push the lower part with my  
 finger. That's just the action that would keep the belt tension at  
 the proper level. But how should this be connected, and to what? Any  
 good pictures of such a thing would be appreciated. I could send a  
 picture of that part to anyone who would try to give me a good answer.
 
 There is also some rust on the underside of the bedplate, around the  
 edges, about where it sits on the wooden case. Any good suggestions  
 for cleaning it and keeping it from rusting any further? A wire brush  
 and rustoleum? Anything better?
 
 Thank you.
 
 David Barnett
 
 David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Help with Edison Standard tension gizmo

2012-08-13 Thread Steven Medved

Let me know if you got my off list reply.
  Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2012 16:19:06 -0400
 From: da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
 Subject: [Phono-L] Help with Edison Standard tension gizmo
 
 I finally got a chance to work on an Edison Standard phonograph  
 project I've had sitting around for ages. The motor is rough, but  
 after replacing the governor weights (they were falling off) the  
 motor actually runs. And for a good long time, too!
 
 The next step is to glue up the belt material I have and connect the  
 motor to the topworks. But the tensioner just flops around. There is  
 something that looks like a spring wound around the part that  
 connects the tensioner to the motor works, but it is only connected  
 to one end. If I hold the other end of this 'spring' with pliers,  
 then the tensioner springs back when I push the lower part with my  
 finger. That's just the action that would keep the belt tension at  
 the proper level. But how should this be connected, and to what? Any  
 good pictures of such a thing would be appreciated. I could send a  
 picture of that part to anyone who would try to give me a good answer.
 
 There is also some rust on the underside of the bedplate, around the  
 edges, about where it sits on the wooden case. Any good suggestions  
 for cleaning it and keeping it from rusting any further? A wire brush  
 and rustoleum? Anything better?
 
 Thank you.
 
 David Barnett
 
 David Barnett   da...@fairlibertyscall.com
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phonograph Motor Issue...

2012-08-13 Thread Barry Kasindorf
I had a Phono that did that. I think is is worn bearings in the motor.
 On Aug 13, 2012 8:03 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote:


 Is there anyone on the list who has had experience with a Fairy Phonograph
 motor or other phono motors from that period? I completed my restoration -
 everything works - lights, motor, etc. However, when the motor is under
 load, with the turntable in place, it seems to vary in power from fast to
 almost a complete stop. It bogs down when a record is attempted to be
 played...
 I know that no one will have an exact answer, but I am looking for the
 most plausible cause. Does the motor need to be rewound and rebuilt or is
 it more likely that the brushes are dirty or worn out. Any ideas???
 Curt
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Re: [Phono-L] Fairy Phonograph Motor Issue...

2012-08-13 Thread Rich
The cause and cure depends on the actual type of motor it is. The term 
motor is very generic and covers multiple types. There are not many of 
those phono lamps running around for cheap so few people have been 
inside of one and even fewer have actually worked on that motor.


On 08/13/2012 06:49 PM, Vinyl Visions wrote:


Is there anyone on the list who has had experience with a Fairy Phonograph 
motor or other phono motors from that period? I completed my restoration - 
everything works - lights, motor, etc. However, when the motor is under load, 
with the turntable in place, it seems to vary in power from fast to almost a 
complete stop. It bogs down when a record is attempted to be played...
I know that no one will have an exact answer, but I am looking for the most 
plausible cause. Does the motor need to be rewound and rebuilt or is it more 
likely that the brushes are dirty or worn out. Any ideas???
Curt
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