Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors
You should be able to see it at: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/p7020017a.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/a/img593/7617/p7020016a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img217/763/p7020015a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img528/3763/p7020014a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img202/5856/p7020013a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9639/p7020012a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2479/p7020011a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img38/2286/p7020010a.jpg Let me know if you can't get them Ken On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Paul Christenzen pic...@gmail.com wrote: And then post it somewhere we all can see. Ron L'Herault wrote: I don't want to own one but I'd dearly love a pic or three for my presentation. e-mail to lherault at bu dot edu Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.orgphono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ken Danckaert Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:35 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I have one of these that I'm willing to sell. It is in a nice homemade box with latches. It is stamped on the inside with BUILD FOR CLARENCE BLACK BYE ABELL. The label is on the deck and says RCA Victor Model 012 Portable Phonograph. If anyone is interested, contact me off list at k...@lemur.org Ken Danckaert On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.comwrote: Thanks, Ron for the explanation... Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:57:02 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I think that makes sense. I live on the St Clair River which flows out of Lake Huron and into Lake St Clair. The Detroit River flows out of Lake St. Clair. I can't believe with how popular those were in the older days that I still can find an intact Victrola around here! Dave __**__ From: Ron L'Heraultlhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 2:53:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Here's what one website said: Basically, handlining involves using lead weights and wire line too heavy to use with conventional fishing tackle to get lures down in conditions where water flow and radically varying depths conspire to frustrate common slow-trolling techniques. It's a tactic pioneered by self proclaimed river rats fishing for walleyes forced by the current to hug the bottom as they migrate through the Detroit River each spring. Early anglers actually pirated parts from vintage, hand-cranked Victorola phonograph players to construct reels capable of handling the wire line and the weights the slow-trolling technique required. The trolling motor has nothing to do with powering a boat, as I thought it did at first. It is just a way to reel in/out a heavy line and weights. They mounted them off the sides of the boat and for al I know, probably were propelling the boat with oars. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.org phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:09 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Can you guys explain what, exactly, is the purpose or advantage of using one of these contraptions? When I go trolling, I use a boat with a motor and rod reel... I can't see how you would use these. I never realized that a phonograph could be used as fishing gear - is this just a cumbersome version of a modern reel? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:39:01 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Hi Ron, I have never found one with an intact governor. I think it would rotate too slowly with it still attached. Without it, the angler can control the speed by allowing the line to slip through the fingers faster or slower. When i get some time I will send you a photo. I have a couple that I have not torn apart yet. Dave __**__ From: Ron L'Heraultlhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 10:50:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I believe that removing the governors is part of what makes them work well, although a couple of pictures I've seen show governors in the motors. I suppose it is possible that they are there but not engaged in the gear train too. Can you send a picture of one you have? Thanks, Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.org phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of David Dazer Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 5:50 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L]
Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors
Got them just fine. Thanks! Ron -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ken Danckaert Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2012 2:39 PM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors You should be able to see it at: http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/248/p7020017a.jpg/ http://imageshack.us/a/img593/7617/p7020016a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img217/763/p7020015a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img528/3763/p7020014a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img202/5856/p7020013a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img841/9639/p7020012a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img11/2479/p7020011a.jpg http://imageshack.us/a/img38/2286/p7020010a.jpg Let me know if you can't get them Ken On Tue, Oct 30, 2012 at 9:54 AM, Paul Christenzen pic...@gmail.com wrote: And then post it somewhere we all can see. Ron L'Herault wrote: I don't want to own one but I'd dearly love a pic or three for my presentation. e-mail to lherault at bu dot edu Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.orgphono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Ken Danckaert Sent: Tuesday, October 30, 2012 8:35 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I have one of these that I'm willing to sell. It is in a nice homemade box with latches. It is stamped on the inside with BUILD FOR CLARENCE BLACK BYE ABELL. The label is on the deck and says RCA Victor Model 012 Portable Phonograph. If anyone is interested, contact me off list at k...@lemur.org Ken Danckaert On Mon, Oct 29, 2012 at 11:20 PM, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.comwrote: Thanks, Ron for the explanation... Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 12:57:02 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I think that makes sense. I live on the St Clair River which flows out of Lake Huron and into Lake St Clair. The Detroit River flows out of Lake St. Clair. I can't believe with how popular those were in the older days that I still can find an intact Victrola around here! Dave __**__ From: Ron L'Heraultlhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 2:53:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Here's what one website said: Basically, handlining involves using lead weights and wire line too heavy to use with conventional fishing tackle to get lures down in conditions where water flow and radically varying depths conspire to frustrate common slow-trolling techniques. It's a tactic pioneered by self proclaimed river rats fishing for walleyes forced by the current to hug the bottom as they migrate through the Detroit River each spring. Early anglers actually pirated parts from vintage, hand-cranked Victorola phonograph players to construct reels capable of handling the wire line and the weights the slow-trolling technique required. The trolling motor has nothing to do with powering a boat, as I thought it did at first. It is just a way to reel in/out a heavy line and weights. They mounted them off the sides of the boat and for al I know, probably were propelling the boat with oars. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-bounces@**oldcrank.org phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:09 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Can you guys explain what, exactly, is the purpose or advantage of using one of these contraptions? When I go trolling, I use a boat with a motor and rod reel... I can't see how you would use these. I never realized that a phonograph could be used as fishing gear - is this just a cumbersome version of a modern reel? Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 08:39:01 -0700 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors Hi Ron, I have never found one with an intact governor. I think it would rotate too slowly with it still attached. Without it, the angler can control the speed by allowing the line to slip through the fingers faster or slower. When i get some time I will send you a photo. I have a couple that I have not torn apart yet. Dave __**__ From: Ron L'Heraultlhera...@bu.edu To: Antique Phonograph Listphono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Mon, October 29, 2012 10:50:58 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] trolling motors from phono motors I believe that removing the governors is part of what makes them work well, although a couple of pictures I've seen show governors in the motors. I suppose it is possible that they are there but not engaged in the gear train
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