Thanks Steve. You're very kind.
George P.
-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Fri, Dec 14, 2012 9:10 am
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thanks and the centering pin on the carriage
Hello George P.,
I had meant the e-mail to be a private one, since it went to the list I will
tell you how much I appreciate the article on the suitcase homes and the dates.
I also never realized there was that gap. When Edison literature spoke of
improvements such as the Model C coming in Feb 1902 I did not realize there was
a gap of several months until these shipped. It now makes sense that Edison's
company sent the Model C out as dealers samples Jan 6, 1902 as it would have
been 4 - 5 months before they came on machines (based on my guess).
Edison's company never had definite cut offs and you find earlier parts on
later
machines and reproducers. One example is the solid C weight that does not have
the holes. The holes appeared in the 70,000 range on the C and D weights, yet
sporadically and in 1910 the appeared again.
I find the Edison factory mistakes and varieties very interesting like the Home
with the Triumph ID plate and the Home serial number.
Steve
PS I am slowly becoming more precise, I will never achieve what you have.
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
From: gpaul2...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 22:10:18 -0500
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Thanks and the centering pin on the carriage
To be precise, I'm pretty sure I wrote there could be a several month gap
between manufacture and shipping. This might be especially true for slow-moving
models like the Concert, or during the spring/summer months when orders fell
off. During the fall, the Edison Works was sometimes thousands of machines
behind schedule - which would close that manufacturing/shipping gap to nearly
zero. There are no hard and fast rules.
George P.
-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Thu, Dec 13, 2012 6:56 pm
Subject: [Phono-L] Thanks and the centering pin on the carriage
Hello Al, Welcome back and thanks so very much. Angelo has a Gem that I
believe
the serial number is 42,000. Both the case and the carriage is missing so I
will let him know it is not the branded case Gem. I really appreciate the
information you sent me and I will save it. When you are rested we can
discuss
when the centering pin appeared on the Edison small carriage, I have an idea.
From George Paul I discovered there was a several month gap when the machines
were made and when they were shipped. Thanks again, Steve
To: phono-l@oldcrank.org
From: clockworkh...@aol.com
Date: Thu, 13 Dec 2012 17:43:37 -0500
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Branded case Gem with Gem speaker (off list)
Greetings Steve:
I just returned from my Asia cruise and spotted your question. The Gem went
through a number of mechanical variations as well as esthetic ones from the
caseless version through the last of the keywound Model As. The carriages are
not interchangeable and the feedscrews with drive gears are not the same from
the first to the last As. The serial number range of the branded case Gem
stops
just after 36000. So, if the serial is 37000 or later then the banner varnish
transfer (decal) label is the correct one and the Gem Special Automatic
Speaker
was changed to the Model B Reproducer about the same time. (maybe even
together
at the same time)
There is one seller on eBay who mixes parts and called a later branded case
Gem a 'transitional model' which drove me crazy! You cannot have a carriage
arm
built-in Gem Automatic up in the 36000s when a bayonet in Gem Special
Automatic
was introduced some 20,000 machines earlier...
I hope this helps.
Best wishes,
Al
PS: Above information guaranteed to be 50% correct as I am still jet lagged
to the nth degree.
-Original Message-
From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com
To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com; phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org
Sent: Wed, Dec 5, 2012 10:41 am
Subject: [Phono-L] Branded case Gem with Gem speaker
If the carriage and the lid is missing how would you tell a branded case
Gem
from the later Gem with the Model B reproducer? The reproducers are not
interchangeable, but is the carriages?
Thanks,
Steve
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