Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

[Rich via Phono-L]

Like all things this also is going in cycles. Mailing lists are 
definitely a waning interest of the masses.


On 5/10/19 1:05 AM, SN Medved via Phono-L wrote:
Some people have retired from the hobby, some have passed.  From its 
heyday the list today is 10% of its former glory when people asked to be 
removed because of all the emails.  The hobby in general is the same 
way.  Each year the shows I have been to get smaller. Prices go down.  
The world famous Ron Sitko told me this past year has been great for him 
because people who own family phonographs are buying parts for them.  At 
the Orlando show I got three reproducers to do, one was from a man whose 
grandfather owned the machine.


I remember when Ron D, I and others were discussing a subject and we 
were chastised for too many emails.  I used to save a lot of emails from 
the phonolists, now over the past three years I think I have saved one 
to my computer.


Steve Medved


*From:* Phono-L  on behalf of Bob Maffit 
via Phono-L 

*Sent:* Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:08 AM
*To:* 'Antique Phonograph List'
*Cc:* Bob Maffit
*Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

Listers:

I had been wondering what had happened to the list and its members, as 
very little was happening.


Well, it looks like we are still around.

Recently, I had inquired about a phono part and did get a reply. When 
initiated, the list works.


Bob Maffit

*From:*Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] *On Behalf Of *Jim 
Nichol via Phono-L

*Sent:* Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:34 PM
*To:* Antique Phonograph List
*Cc:* Jim Nichol
*Subject:* Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

Ron, I doubt you and Mike are the only people left on this list. But 
I’ve only run into problems like yours twice. One was a Busy Bee disc 
phono. I did find a problem with binding in the governor gearing, but I 
think a weak spring was the real problem. Also, my Edison Opera stopped 
working after traveling to Chicago. It was easily fixed when I found 
that governor shaft wouldn’t turn. I loosened a set screw and allowed a 
little play in the governor shaft, and all was well.


Jim Nichol



On May 7, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L 
mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org>> wrote:


The old spring was 5/8 by .018.   I’ve just installed a 5/8 by .022  
which seems to be about the same length, around 8 5eet I believe.  It’s 
a NOS Honest Quaker (I actually have two of these!).  It may be a bit 
better.  I think I’m going to try a counter weight on the “tone arm” to 
lighten the reproduce a bit.  That may let it play through an 8” record.


Looks like you and I are the only ones on the oldcrank phonograph list.  
NO one else commented.


Ron L

*From:*Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org]*On Behalf Of*Mike 
Tucker via Phono-L

*Sent:*Saturday, May 04, 2019 6:13 PM
*To:*'Antique Phonograph List'
*Cc:*mtucker1...@gmail.com 
*Subject:*Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

Ron,

What is the width of the spring?

The Windsor listing gives the following for small toy motors (Genola, 
Baby Grand,Carryola Cub, Pei-o-phone, Artone, Featherweight etc) with 
pear shape holes as ½” x .022 x 8feet.


For old type toy motors the dimensions are 9/16” x .025 x 10 feet.

I have no specific listing for the Little Wonder.

Best wishes,

Mike Tucker

*From:*Phono-L >*On Behalf Of*Ron L'Herault via 
Phono-L

*Sent:*Sunday, 5 May 2019 6:29 AM
*To:*phonol...@yahoogroups.com ; 
'Antique Phonograph List' >

*Cc:*Ron L'Herault mailto:lhera...@verizon.net>>
*Subject:*[Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

I’ve been sent a LW phono with a host of small problems.  This is a 
Vertical only machine that according to the lit. should use a sapphire 
ball.   The governor springs were wrong.  I’ve got two with Columbia 
weights that are pretty close.  Had to make a lower bearing for the 
governor.  It’s  tad sloppy but rotational speed seems fairly consistent 
until the record slows half way into the side.   I suspect the spring is 
the wrong size (too long and maybe too thick).  S,  what size should 
the spring be?  There is a dish shaped washer on the winding gear side 
of the spring. Should the upward curve of the dish be towards the 
spring or towards the winding gear?  Should the spring be exposed on its 
other end or was there another dish or flat disk there?    Anybody 
know?  And does anyone know the actual length, width, thickness of the 
gov. springs?


Thanks,

Ron L

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Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems

[SN Medved via Phono-L]

Some people have retired from the hobby, some have passed.  From its heyday the 
list today is 10% of its former glory when people asked to be removed because 
of all the emails.  The hobby in general is the same way.  Each year the shows 
I have been to get smaller.  Prices go down.  The world famous Ron Sitko told 
me this past year has been great for him because people who own family 
phonographs are buying parts for them.  At the Orlando show I got three 
reproducers to do, one was from a man whose grandfather owned the machine.

I remember when Ron D, I and others were discussing a subject and we were 
chastised for too many emails.  I used to save a lot of emails from the 
phonolists, now over the past three years I think I have saved one to my 
computer.

Steve Medved


From: Phono-L  on behalf of Bob Maffit via 
Phono-L 
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 12:08 AM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Cc: Bob Maffit
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems


Listers:



I had been wondering what had happened to the list and its members, as very 
little was happening.



Well, it looks like we are still around.



Recently, I had inquired about a phono part and did get a reply. When 
initiated, the list works.



Bob Maffit



From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Jim Nichol via 
Phono-L
Sent: Tuesday, May 07, 2019 9:34 PM
To: Antique Phonograph List
Cc: Jim Nichol
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems



Ron, I doubt you and Mike are the only people left on this list. But I’ve only 
run into problems like yours twice. One was a Busy Bee disc phono. I did find a 
problem with binding in the governor gearing, but I think a weak spring was the 
real problem. Also, my Edison Opera stopped working after traveling to Chicago. 
It was easily fixed when I found that governor shaft wouldn’t turn. I loosened 
a set screw and allowed a little play in the governor shaft, and all was well.



Jim Nichol



On May 7, 2019, at 9:43 PM, Ron L'Herault via Phono-L 
mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org>> wrote:



The old spring was 5/8 by .018.   I’ve just installed a 5/8 by .022  which 
seems to be about the same length, around 8 5eet I believe.  It’s a NOS Honest 
Quaker (I actually have two of these!).  It may be a bit better.  I think I’m 
going to try a counter weight on the “tone arm” to lighten the reproduce a bit. 
 That may let it play through an 8” record.



Looks like you and I are the only ones on the oldcrank phonograph list.  NO one 
else commented.





Ron L



From: Phono-L [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Mike Tucker 
via Phono-L
Sent: Saturday, May 04, 2019 6:13 PM
To: 'Antique Phonograph List'
Cc: mtucker1...@gmail.com
Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems



Ron,



What is the width of the spring?



The Windsor listing gives the following for small toy motors (Genola, Baby 
Grand,Carryola Cub, Pei-o-phone, Artone, Featherweight etc) with pear shape 
holes as ½” x .022 x 8feet.



For old type toy motors the dimensions are 9/16” x .025 x 10 feet.



I have no specific listing for the Little Wonder.



Best wishes,



Mike Tucker



From: Phono-L 
mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org>> On Behalf 
Of Ron L'Herault via Phono-L
Sent: Sunday, 5 May 2019 6:29 AM
To: phonol...@yahoogroups.com; 'Antique 
Phonograph List' mailto:phono-l@oldcrank.org>>
Cc: Ron L'Herault mailto:lhera...@verizon.net>>
Subject: [Phono-L] Little Wonder Phono problems



I’ve been sent a LW phono with a host of small problems.  This is a Vertical 
only machine that according to the lit. should use a sapphire ball.   The 
governor springs were wrong.  I’ve got two with Columbia weights that are 
pretty close.  Had to make a lower bearing for the governor.  It’s  tad sloppy 
but rotational speed seems fairly consistent until the record slows half way 
into the side.   I suspect the spring is the wrong size (too long and maybe too 
thick).  S,  what size should the spring be?  There is a dish shaped washer 
on the winding gear side of the spring. Should the upward curve of the dish 
be towards the spring or towards the winding gear?  Should the spring be 
exposed on its other end or was there another dish or flat disk there?
Anybody know?  And does anyone know the actual length, width, thickness of the 
gov. springs?



Thanks,



Ron L

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