[Phono-L] reproducer identification

2010-04-28 Thread dan s
hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and or
model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and
this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm i
would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is in
need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it is.
any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you
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Re: [Phono-L] reproducer identification

2010-04-28 Thread dan s
thank you gentlemen for your help on this matter it is greatly appreciated.
i did find an original orthophonic reproducer and will hopefully have it by
mon. or tue. and by that time i will hopefully(?) have finished putting it
all back together. as i have completely stripped it down and sanded every
piece of wood bare. i am now in the process of restaining it and cleaning,
polishing the rest of the components. the cabinet suffered quite a bit of
water damage due to a major flood we had here in the fifties. which is
probably when the reproducer broke and was replaced by one from the fifties.
i'm looking for a thumbscrew for the pal so i can try to sell it to offset
the cost of the reproducer i bought. so i can say to my wife look honey i
sold something (for a change). thanks again to all.
 best regards
  dan

On Wed, Apr 28, 2010 at 2:08 PM, Bryan, Ronald (DSHS/DDD) 
brya...@dshs.wa.gov wrote:

 The VV 4-3 Consolette - I have the second cabinet style of this
 machine - is an orthophonic.  The orthophonic reproducers that were made
 of cast metal are prone to cracks with age, and maybe that is what
 happened to the reproducer on your machine - maybe a previous owner
 replaced it with this one.  I'd track down a correct replacement
 orthophonic reproducer.
 Regards,
 Ron B, Seattle.




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  hello everyone i was wondering if anyone could tell me what the make and
 or
 model of reproducer this is. i bought a victrola orthophonic v v 4-3 and
 this reproducer came with it. judging by the sloppy fit to the tone arm
 i
 would have to guess this is not the original one but i don't know. it is
 in
 need of a thumb screw which is why i would like to know which make it
 is.
 any information would be very helpful and greatly appreciated. thank you
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[Phono-L] executive ediphone

2010-04-15 Thread dan s
hello my name is dan and i'm an old crank and this is my story. i know this
site is primarily devoted to phonograph's but i did notice that there was a
discussion on ediphone's a little while back. so i figure this will be the
best place to get the answers and help that i need. first i want to
apologize as this may seem a bit long winded. so here is my story. back in
January of this year i had gotten into the hobby of buying,selling and
collecting old toys cars and trucks namely. while at an estate sale looking
for toys i came across a phonograph (sonora troubador in pretty rough
shape). i didn't know a thing about them but have always been intrigued by
them and always wanted one so i bought it knowing i could at least make a
quick buck on it. so as i was leaving  the sale i noticed this office
machine thing. kinda had an idea of what it was but not sure so i figured i
could probably make a buck on it too. so i bought it as well. now as I'm
driving home I'm thinking to myself what possible excuse do i have to
explain to the mrs of why i needed these since i had gone there looking for
toys. anyway i get home take this office mach. put it in a cupboard to deal
with later as i have a phonograph to clean up and sell. so as I'm cleaning
up the sonora i say to myself i could probably get more for it if i removed
all the tarnish from the chrome, sanded it down a bit patch up the big ding
on the door and all the other little dents. a fresh coat of varnish and some
new felt for the turntable it should look pretty good . two weeks later I'm
finished and looking at this beautiful machine (if i don't say so myself)
and say i can't sell this. because for $100.00 cdn and two weeks worth of
elbow grease i now own a beautiful piece of 95 year old history in excellent
working condition. and on the odd occasion if I'm feeling a bit down i slap
on some glenn miller (in the mood) and that just picks me up. now about a
two months later i remember oh yeah the office machine thing. i take it out
of hiding look at it and say to myself was i drinking when i bought this i
thought the phonograph was in rough shape. after i did all the google
searches  to find out exactly what it is and how it works. the first snag i
ran into was when i noticed that the motor and mounting bracket are missing
next i noticed there is no power cord and the mouth piece that screws onto
the hand set is also gone. so now I'm looking at this ediphone (i know what
it is now) saying to myself I'll be lucky if i can get my thirty bucks back
that i paid for it. now i have a decision to make sell it as is or try to
find whats missing and see if i can't get it to work. of course i never take
the easy road so i start searching for a motor and mounting bracket and find
one. now this part i find a bit uncanny.when recv'd the motor and bracket i
tried fitting it to the bedplate and found that where the wires had been cut
to disconnect the motor they match up perfectly to the wires that are inside
the case. it would almost seem that this motor and bracket came from this
machine. (coincidence probably ?) now that i have cleared the first major
hurdle the next is wax cylinders I'll never know if this thing works if i
don't have the wax cylinders to try it out. low and behold if i don't come
across a case of unused cylinders and two single ones. now I'm getting
pretty excited about this except that when i look at the machine it looks
gross. the black paint is quite dull the chrome is anything but shiny and
the entire unit feels sticky. so i dismantle everything that i felt
confident enough to put back together and start cleaning. the first thing i
did was remove and clean the chrome mandrel. wow did it ever come out nice
and it was at that point when i looked at the mandrel and the rest of the
machine that i thought i just might have another beautiful machine here and
i was right. after i finished cleaning and putting it back together it looks
awesome aside from a few scratches it is in excellent condition. so now here
i am today asking for your help in finding a power cord and mouth piece.
possibly one other piece that i am unsure what it may be as i noticed it
looks like something may have been mounted under the bed plate about two
inches from the ac/dc switch. does anyone on this site know where i may be
able to get a power cord and mouth piece, also would anyone here have a
picture of the underside of a complete exec.ediphone to see if i am missing
anything else or i could upload a picture of mine and perhaps someone could
tell me if it is complete or not. also i am in need of some instructions on
how to operate this. i would like to use one of the two single cylinders
that i have for testing purposes only. one of the cylinders is an edison
ediphone cylinder it is unused but the color of it is what has me concerned
the dark brown has turned light brown over most of the cylinder. so i am
unsure if it would safe to try without damaging the reproducer. the other