Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
A friend of mine has a later mahogany Amberola 50 (English-sold) that has a cloth drawstring bag over the horn. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Also, is there anyone cutting new grilles for the later Amberolas? Philip Carli From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:17 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
A friend of mine has a later mahogany Amberola 50 (English-sold) that has a cloth drawstring bag over the horn. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Also, is there anyone cutting new grilles for the later Amberolas? Philip Carli From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:17 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
The original was raw silk cloth. Use organic dye. On 04/24/2012 11:19 AM, William Zucca wrote: Yes, this is helpful information for me too but I wonder what kind of cloth is most like original. That are many nice, rich looking 1920s radio speaker cloths available but other than that, I wouldn't have a clue what to use. My Amberola 50 has some sort of faded ribbed paisley cloth on it that surely wasn't original- or was it? Green Mountain Bill On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:17 AM,bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
http://www.grampstreasures.com/ Gramp's Treasures Contact Information Tom Rutkowski (Gramps) Make checks payable to Tom Rutkowski TelephoneFax 810-359-2376 810-359-2430 Postal address 3405 Lakeshore, Lexington, MI 48450 Electronic mail gril...@gmail.com From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:56:39 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question A friend of mine has a later mahogany Amberola 50 (English-sold) that has a cloth drawstring bag over the horn. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Also, is there anyone cutting new grilles for the later Amberolas? Philip Carli From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:17 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Gramp's Treasures Contact Information Tom Rutkowski (Gramps) Make checks payable to Tom Rutkowski TelephoneFax 810-359-2376 810-359-2430 Postal address 3405 Lakeshore, Lexington, MI 48450 Electronic mail gril...@gmail.com From: philip_ca...@pittsford.monroe.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 25 Apr 2012 11:49:11 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question A friend of mine has a later mahogany Amberola 50 (English-sold) that has a cloth drawstring bag over the horn. Has anyone else seen anything like this? Also, is there anyone cutting new grilles for the later Amberolas? Philip Carli From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] on behalf of bruce78...@comcast.net [bruce78...@comcast.net] Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 5:17 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org This email message and any attachments may contain confidential information. If you are not the intended recipient, you are prohibited from using the information in any way, including but not limited to disclosure of, copying, forwarding or acting in reliance on the contents. If you have received this email by error, please immediately notify me by return email and delete it from your email system. Thank you. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Michael: I have a B-60 with the wood grained horn and the grill has green cloth. I am quite sure it is original. as Al mentions, DD machines are quite varied. later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Michael F. Khanchalian Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:19 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here's a loose question for you Al or any others. On the B-60 or C-60 DD machine. I have seen original illustrations with grill cloth, yet these have wood grained horns. What's correct here? Kindest thanks for your thoughts. Michael Khanchalian (Cylinder Doctor) On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:58 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30 and 50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the 'lovely' black swinging horn behind the grille. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Everything Edison made is quite varied, there are 14 different varieties of the Model H reproducer for example and just when you think you know it all another variety comes along. The only reason people do not notice all the varieties is they do not look closely and assume what they have is normal, with Edison there was not any definite cutoffs. Look at all the N varities. Most people do not know Edison made a Trowel N before the N-56 but he did just like he made the trowel weight for the O. Steve From: maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 24 Apr 2012 20:10:29 -0600 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Michael: I have a B-60 with the wood grained horn and the grill has green cloth. I am quite sure it is original. as Al mentions, DD machines are quite varied. later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Michael F. Khanchalian Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:19 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here's a loose question for you Al or any others. On the B-60 or C-60 DD machine. I have seen original illustrations with grill cloth, yet these have wood grained horns. What's correct here? Kindest thanks for your thoughts. Michael Khanchalian (Cylinder Doctor) On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:58 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30 and 50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the 'lovely' black swinging horn behind the grille. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Thank you Bob! Is your B-60 oak? Usually I have noted that green cloth was put on mahogany cabinets? I'd love a nice close up of your green cloth. What color is your tunable felt? Many thanks! Michael On Apr 24, 2012, at 7:10 PM, Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net wrote: Michael: I have a B-60 with the wood grained horn and the grill has green cloth. I am quite sure it is original. as Al mentions, DD machines are quite varied. later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Michael F. Khanchalian Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 12:19 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here's a loose question for you Al or any others. On the B-60 or C-60 DD machine. I have seen original illustrations with grill cloth, yet these have wood grained horns. What's correct here? Kindest thanks for your thoughts. Michael Khanchalian (Cylinder Doctor) On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:58 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30 and 50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the 'lovely' black swinging horn behind the grille. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Here's a loose question for you Al or any others. On the B-60 or C-60 DD machine. I have seen original illustrations with grill cloth, yet these have wood grained horns. What's correct here? Kindest thanks for your thoughts. Michael Khanchalian (Cylinder Doctor) On Apr 23, 2012, at 7:58 PM, clockworkh...@aol.com wrote: One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30 and 50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the 'lovely' black swinging horn behind the grille. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
My B-80 has a nicely mahogany-grained horn, yet also has the ancient remnants of greenish, silk grille cloth. - Original Message - From: Michael F. Khanchalian mfkhanchal...@altrionet.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Tuesday, April 24, 2012 2:18 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here's a loose question for you Al or any others. On the B-60 or C-60 DD machine. I have seen original illustrations with grill cloth, yet these have wood grained horns. What's correct here? ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Yes, this is helpful information for me too but I wonder what kind of cloth is most like original. That are many nice, rich looking 1920s radio speaker cloths available but other than that, I wouldn't have a clue what to use. My Amberola 50 has some sort of faded ribbed paisley cloth on it that surely wasn't original- or was it? Green Mountain Bill On Tue, Apr 24, 2012 at 5:17 AM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Here is a very early Amberola Ad, depicting the seldom seen ill fated earliest style Rococo Grill Amberola 1A Cabinet that was made by Herzog. Note there is no Grill Cloth shown. http://www.atticpaper.com/proddetail.php?prod=1910-edison-amberola-ad Bruce - Original Message - From: clockworkh...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 10:53:42 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Here is a copy of an original Print Ad for what looks like and Amberola 30. Note there does not appear to be a Grill Cloth present. http://www.amazon.com/Edison-Amberola-Phonograph-Babson-Chicago/dp/B005DGYL60 - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:04:40 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Phono List: What is the history regarding the grills cloth, say on amberola 30s however, it may be applicable to all Amberolas. Often I find old grills with bits of cloth on them, both wood an medal. So.. Did they originally come with cloth or is that a reproduction innovation. Just not sure which way to go on replacing or leaving cloth on the Amberolas I have. L Later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
I have a bunch of these other Fred Babson ads, still in their original newsprint magazines. Babson actually used an old engraving of an Amberola X - note the tall lid. - Original Message - From: bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 7:50 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here is a copy of an original Print Ad for what looks like and Amberola 30. Note there does not appear to be a Grill Cloth present. http://www.amazon.com/Edison-Amberola-Phonograph-Babson-Chicago/dp/B005DGYL60 - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:04:40 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Phono List: What is the history regarding the grills cloth, say on amberola 30s however, it may be applicable to all Amberolas. Often I find old grills with bits of cloth on them, both wood an medal. So.. Did they originally come with cloth or is that a reproduction innovation. Just not sure which way to go on replacing or leaving cloth on the Amberolas I have. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
One quick and easy way to tell if the Amberola had a grille cloth or not is to see if the horn is wood grained. The Amberola IA, IB, III, IV, V, IV, VIII, and X series of Diamond Amberolas had wood grained horns so they did not need to have grille cloth to disguise the internal horn. When the Amberola 30, 50, 75, and later 60 and 80 came along it was determined that a quickly glued in grille cloth would be less expensive than the wood grained paint process. So you have an ugly black horn hidden behind the cloth. Along the way people have added grille cloth to the earlier Amberolas (to keep the dust out) and taken the cloth out of the later ones (to let the sound out); thus, there is confusion today. I hope this helps, Al Sefl Edison Nut... ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Bruce: thanks for your time on this. appreciated Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 5:50 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Here is a copy of an original Print Ad for what looks like and Amberola 30. Note there does not appear to be a Grill Cloth present. http://www.amazon.com/Edison-Amberola-Phonograph-Babson-Chicago/dp/B005DGYL6 0 - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sunday, April 22, 2012 9:04:40 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question Phono List: What is the history regarding the grills cloth, say on amberola 30s however, it may be applicable to all Amberolas. Often I find old grills with bits of cloth on them, both wood an medal. So.. Did they originally come with cloth or is that a reproduction innovation. Just not sure which way to go on replacing or leaving cloth on the Amberolas I have. L Later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
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thanks -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of clockworkh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:59 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30 and 50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the 'lovely' black swinging horn behind the grille. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
That raises a question from me...I have a lovely Diamond Disc A-200 with a lovely grained horn. It was my thought that the machines with grained horns had no cloth, yet the grille on this one had shreds of the original cloth on it. Any thoughts on that?? It matches the original cloth on another Edison I had. John Robles From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: 'Antique Phonograph List' phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:25 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question thanks -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of clockworkh...@aol.com Sent: Monday, April 23, 2012 8:59 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question One more loose thought, the Amberolas B5, D6, etc. that were shipped from cabinets left over after the December 1914 factory fire with the Amberola 30 and 50 mechanisms will have grille clothes to keep buyers from seeing the 'lovely' black swinging horn behind the grille. Regards to all, Al ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Amberola grills cloth question
Phono List: What is the history regarding the grills cloth, say on amberola 30s however, it may be applicable to all Amberolas. Often I find old grills with bits of cloth on them, both wood an medal. So.. Did they originally come with cloth or is that a reproduction innovation. Just not sure which way to go on replacing or leaving cloth on the Amberolas I have. L Later Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
