Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Art and all: The two latest electrically recorded DD I have are 52627- Vaughn De Leath - I'd Fall in Love with me - and 52643 - Believe me that's love - sung Ernest Hare. I was told on one of the phono forums by this time DD were no longer recorded at 80rpm and were slowed down to 78rpm. So I played the records at the 78rpm on my turn table and the songs sounded better. Rick -Original Message- From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Sat, Jun 15, 2013 6:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs 52651 released November 1929 hard to find as there was only the initial release. I wonder how many were made and how many survive. Steve From: smst...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:36:25 -0700 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs Hey Steve, Mine is 52651. Too bad I traded away my cylinder by the Blue Babies, Heaven help a Sailor on a night like this...lol Oldcranky On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:07 PM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: Thanks Steve, I think I'm only going to concern myself with the 52000 series for now. I've never seen any electrical recordings in the other series. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:11:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Art, My notes have it at 52089, Oct,1929 I'm gonna settle up (then I'm gonna settle down) and Here I am Broken Hearted, By J. Donald Parker . Per Raymond Wile Mike Stitt Oldcranky On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:23 PM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the number of the first electrically recorded diamond disc? Thanks, Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Thanks Mike, But wasn't that actually recorded in Sept. and Oct. 1927? I'm going by Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations, 1910-1929 The coupling supplement date(whatever that means) is Sept for R and Oct for L. . Then there is a cut out date of Oct 1929. I guess that is when it was cut out of the catalog. It's somewhat confusing. Anyway, I am glad to hear that all the records I picked up are electrically recorded. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 12:17:28 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, smst...@gmail.com writes: Art, My notes have it at 52089, Oct,1929 I'm gonna settle up (then I'm gonna settle down) and Here I am Broken Hearted, By J. Donald Parker . Per Raymond Wile Mike Stitt Oldcranky On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:23 PM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the number of the first electrically recorded diamond disc? Thanks, Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. From: aph4...@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:23:00 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the number of the first electrically recorded diamond disc? Thanks, Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Art, It is from Raymond Wile's Edison Disc recordings. The 1929 date is his date, I screwed up, late night stuff.. BTW the book is ©1978. Thanks for the correction. '27 makes no sense. Oldcranky the blind. On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 8:56 AM, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. From: aph4...@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 01:23:00 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the number of the first electrically recorded diamond disc? Thanks, Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Hello Art, What is the highest catalog number you have? Steve From: aph4...@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 11:28:38 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs Thanks Mike, But wasn't that actually recorded in Sept. and Oct. 1927? I'm going by Edison Diamond Disc Re-Creations, 1910-1929 The coupling supplement date(whatever that means) is Sept for R and Oct for L. . Then there is a cut out date of Oct 1929. I guess that is when it was cut out of the catalog. It's somewhat confusing. Anyway, I am glad to hear that all the records I picked up are electrically recorded. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 12:17:28 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, smst...@gmail.com writes: Art, My notes have it at 52089, Oct,1929 I'm gonna settle up (then I'm gonna settle down) and Here I am Broken Hearted, By J. Donald Parker . Per Raymond Wile Mike Stitt Oldcranky On Fri, Jun 14, 2013 at 10:23 PM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the number of the first electrically recorded diamond disc? Thanks, Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Thanks Steve, I think I'm only going to concern myself with the 52000 series for now. I've never seen any electrical recordings in the other series. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:11:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
OK Mike, Now I am confused. What did you mean when you said 27 makes no sense? I thought Edison electrical recording did start in 1927. --Art In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:41:49 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, smst...@gmail.com writes: Art, It is from Raymond Wile's Edison Disc recordings. The 1929 date is his date, I screwed up, late night stuff.. BTW the book is ©1978. Thanks for the correction. '27 makes no sense. Oldcranky the blind. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Hey Steve, Mine is 52651. Too bad I traded away my cylinder by the Blue Babies, Heaven help a Sailor on a night like this...lol Oldcranky On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:07 PM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: Thanks Steve, I think I'm only going to concern myself with the 52000 series for now. I've never seen any electrical recordings in the other series. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:11:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Hello Art, The 82,000 series is very rare in the electric series and they sell high. I have some in the 80,000 series. Most people are not aware of the other series. Steve From: aph4...@aol.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 16:07:26 -0400 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs Thanks Steve, I think I'm only going to concern myself with the 52000 series for now. I've never seen any electrical recordings in the other series. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:11:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
52651 released November 1929 hard to find as there was only the initial release. I wonder how many were made and how many survive. Steve From: smst...@gmail.com Date: Sat, 15 Jun 2013 13:36:25 -0700 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs Hey Steve, Mine is 52651. Too bad I traded away my cylinder by the Blue Babies, Heaven help a Sailor on a night like this...lol Oldcranky On Sat, Jun 15, 2013 at 1:07 PM, aph4...@aol.com wrote: Thanks Steve, I think I'm only going to concern myself with the 52000 series for now. I've never seen any electrical recordings in the other series. ---Art Heller In a message dated 6/15/2013 10:11:48 A.M. Mountain Daylight Time, steve_nor...@msn.com writes: Finnish: 59305-59306 Spanish/Cuban: 60063-60078 60063 is the earliest, released DD electrical matrix. German: 57025-57034 52089 to 52651 for the 50,000 series 80885 to 80907 for the 80,000 series 82351 to 82360 for the 82,000 series Please remember that the 82500 series was not part of the 82000 series. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
Art, You are right on all accounts. The Wile book is confusing too. I haven't played with records for years and w/o looking it up 1927 seemed early for Edison electrical. I confused it even more in my haste as I've been running all day. 3/12/29 is the cutout date Steve, Somewhere around here i have the two DD that have previous unknown labels and I don't remember if it was in the 80 or 82000 series. These two labels were included in Ron Dethlefson DD Book. Sorry I confused the issue, Mike S ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Edison electrical DDs
I have recently bought a bunch of Edison DDs of the 52000 series. The original owner just died and these were in his estate sale. The are absolutely pristine and sound great. I know that Edison started electrically recording these somewhere about July 1927, But can someone give me the number of the first electrically recorded diamond disc? Thanks, Art Heller ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
