Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
Is that in one of the new editions? I still have my 1990 Hard cover edition, and can't seem to find a photo of the Gibson nor a discussion or reference to Gibson. Guess it is finally time to update to the new edition. Bruce - Original Message - From: RBaumbach phonol...@mac.com To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 8:24:09 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed There is a photo of the Gibson and a discussion of his contributions in Look for the Dog as well. Bob On ThursdaySeptember 27, 2012, at September2720124:17 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Whoops, Ok, I do have your wonderful descriptive pictorial A world of Antique Phonographs but unfortunately I do not have Discovering Antique Phonographs, so for now I guess I am out of luck, as far as seeing the rare and seldom seen Gibson Gramophone. Was it made by the same folks who supplied the Gibson Traveling arm for various early Victor Talking machines, and the Gibson arm for Zonophones ? - Original Message - From: George Paul gpaul2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:39:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed I don't know about websites, but 3 photos of a Gibson Gramophone may be seen on pages 58-59 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. George P. -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with a Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, which I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only collector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had a spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have owned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's can be seen ? Bruce - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. - Original Message - rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even more obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your best bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph Collector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts as well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson Traveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. Phonograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will forward it to you. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has always helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a part! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it has: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my Victor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor winding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The crank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance from the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked like it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? Moreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
Bruce: Thanks for your suggestions. I previously asked George however, he didn't have the part. Now that I have the more specific phono style / type, I will ask again. The other fellows contact info would be appreciated. Any reference or links to this model would help. Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:48 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even more obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your best bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph Collector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts as well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson Traveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. Phonograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will forward it to you. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has always helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a part! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it has: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my Victor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor winding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The crank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance from the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked like it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? Moreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
It sounds like it might be a tightly wound heavy spring material. If there is some slight misalignment between motor and crank hole, it would act like a cheap(?) universal joint to allow winding. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Bob Maffit Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:47 AM To: 'Antique Phonograph List' Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Bruce: Thanks for your suggestions. I previously asked George however, he didn't have the part. Now that I have the more specific phono style / type, I will ask again. The other fellows contact info would be appreciated. Any reference or links to this model would help. Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:48 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even more obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your best bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph Collector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts as well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson Traveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. Phonograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will forward it to you. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has always helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a part! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it has: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my Victor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor winding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The crank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance from the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked like it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? Moreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. - Original Message - rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with a Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, which I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only collector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had a spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have owned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's can be seen ? Bruce - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. - Original Message - rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
Bob, If it's a straight line shot to the winding shaft from the crank hole, it shouldn't be hard to come up with an extension. Any machinist should be able to tap and thread a rod that would work. If it needs to be flexible, there are drill bit extensions that are made from a flexible spring like material, which may be able to be altered to work, since you only need a short piece. A machinist should be able to do that also... Curt From: maff...@bresnan.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Thu, 27 Sep 2012 07:46:35 -0600 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Bruce: Thanks for your suggestions. I previously asked George however, he didn't have the part. Now that I have the more specific phono style / type, I will ask again. The other fellows contact info would be appreciated. Any reference or links to this model would help. Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:48 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even more obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your best bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph Collector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts as well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson Traveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. Phonograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will forward it to you. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has always helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a part! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it has: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my Victor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor winding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The crank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance from the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked like it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? Moreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
I believe it was Ken Brekke from Wisconsin Antique Phonograph Society, who supplied me that part. Yours is a real long shot, but you could give him a try anyway. Bruce - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 9:46:35 AM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Bruce: Thanks for your suggestions. I previously asked George however, he didn't have the part. Now that I have the more specific phono style / type, I will ask again. The other fellows contact info would be appreciated. Any reference or links to this model would help. Later Bob -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of bruce78...@comcast.net Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 5:48 AM To: Antique Phonograph List Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even more obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your best bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph Collector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts as well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson Traveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. Phonograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will forward it to you. - Original Message - From: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM Subject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has always helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a part! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it has: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my Victor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor winding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The crank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance from the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked like it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? Moreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
I don't know about websites, but 3 photos of a Gibson Gramophone may be seen on pages 58-59 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. George P. -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with a Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, which I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only collector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had a spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have owned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's can be seen ? Bruce - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. - Original Message - rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
Whoops, Ok, I do have your wonderful descriptive pictorial A world of Antique Phonographs but unfortunately I do not have Discovering Antique Phonographs, so for now I guess I am out of luck, as far as seeing the rare and seldom seen Gibson Gramophone. Was it made by the same folks who supplied the Gibson Traveling arm for various early Victor Talking machines, and the Gibson arm for Zonophones ? - Original Message - From: George Paul gpaul2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:39:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed I don't know about websites, but 3 photos of a Gibson Gramophone may be seen on pages 58-59 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. George P. -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with a Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, which I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only collector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had a spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have owned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's can be seen ? Bruce - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. - Original Message - rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
no the only two i know of are two lucky collectors they are rare rare rare makes a montross berliner seem common -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, hich I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only ollector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have wned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's an be seen ? Bruce - Original Message - rom: zonophone2...@aol.com o: phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed i bruce o there are three gibson phonographs now know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one s your complete ono -Original Message- rom: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am ubject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed ow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even re obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your st bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph llector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson aveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. onograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will rward it to you. Original Message - om: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net : Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org nt: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM bject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has ways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a rt! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it s: Tonalie sonora lear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ctor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor nding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The ank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance om the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ke it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? reover, anyone have one to part with? r a workable substitute. Thanks Bob __ ono-L mailing list tp://phono-l.org _ ono-L mailing list tp://phono-l.org ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
There is a photo of the Gibson and a discussion of his contributions in Look for the Dog as well. Bob On ThursdaySeptember 27, 2012, at September2720124:17 PM, bruce78...@comcast.net wrote: Whoops, Ok, I do have your wonderful descriptive pictorial A world of Antique Phonographs but unfortunately I do not have Discovering Antique Phonographs, so for now I guess I am out of luck, as far as seeing the rare and seldom seen Gibson Gramophone. Was it made by the same folks who supplied the Gibson Traveling arm for various early Victor Talking machines, and the Gibson arm for Zonophones ? - Original Message - From: George Paul gpaul2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 6:39:11 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed I don't know about websites, but 3 photos of a Gibson Gramophone may be seen on pages 58-59 of Discovering Antique Phonographs. George P. -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 4:27 pm Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed An obvious misunderstanding. I had acquired a Victor Monarch Jr., that came with a Gibson (Sheet Metal type) traveling arm, that was missing the swivel pin, which I needed in order to make it functional . Ken from Wisconsin, was the only collector or supplier for that matter, that I was able to find that actually had a spare and he graciously sold it to me for a reasonable price. I never have owned a Gibson Phonograph. Is there any website where one of these rare Gibson's can be seen ? Bruce - Original Message - From: zonophone2...@aol.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 2:11:15 PM Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed hi bruce so there are three gibson phonographs now i know the oliphants and howard hazelcorn each have one is your complete zono -Original Message- From: bruce78rpm bruce78...@comcast.net To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Sent: Thu, Sep 27, 2012 8:02 am Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Wow, that is a tough one, an obscure late 20's Sonora phonograph, with an even ore obscure extension for the crank . George Volema at Great Lakes may be your est bet. There is also a fellow in Wisconsin, who is an avid Phonograph ollector, who has over the years managed to obtain, many odd and obscure parts s well. When I was looking for an odd rare part (the swivel pin) for a Gibson raveling Tone arm, he was the only one I could find in the entire U.S. honograph world that seemed to have one. When I come up with his name I will orward it to you. - Original Message - rom: Bob Maffit maff...@bresnan.net o: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org ent: Wednesday, September 26, 2012 9:25:41 PM ubject: [Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has lways helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a art! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it as: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my ictor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor inding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The rank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance rom the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked ike it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? oreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org __ hono-L mailing list ttp://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
[Phono-L] Sonora Tonalie part needed
Phono List: I am looking for another needle in a haystack however, this group has always helped. I had a motor repaired with new springs and apparently I misplaced or lost a part! First of all, it is a Sonora floor model. On the underside of the lid it has: Tonalie sonora Clear as a bell I think it is a late 20s model as it has a similar cabinet design as my Victor VV-8-35, thus my guess at the year. Any info on the machine in general? I am missing an extension for the crank which attaches to the motor winding shaft and, if I recall correctly, is about 4' to 6' in length. The crank threads on the extension allowing the crank to function the distance from the right cabinet wall to reach the motor. The extension part looked like it was made from a wire or rod wound around to make the extension. So: Has anyone have an idea of what the *** I am trying to explain / describe? Moreover, anyone have one to part with? Or a workable substitute. Thanks Bob ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.org
