Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I whant as many of dose gramophones as you will send... I whill accept em all. From: pjfra...@mac.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:46:40 -0800 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I'm actually loving this. Rant on, Johnny-Chuck! On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com wrote: i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Folks, Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the spring as long as you have the older style crane. http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa5ef258a Steve On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: WTF is that all about??? John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought until they had the problem. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ John Robles --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com, Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder
I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace the ball. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
thanks for understand me and please dont send any more E-MAIL. Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:15:51 -0800 From: lo...@oldcrank.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles, Please be civil. Nobody is trying to sell you anything. If you do not wish to receive emails from Phono-L, I will be happy to unsubscribe you. Best, Loran On Tue, Nov 9, 2010 at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com wrote: i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
please dont send any more E-MAIL thanks. From: pjfra...@mac.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 19:46:40 -0800 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I'm actually loving this. Rant on, Johnny-Chuck! On Nov 9, 2010, at 7:39 PM, Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com wrote: i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Folks, Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the spring as long as you have the older style crane. http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa5ef258a Steve On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: WTF is that all about??? John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought until they had the problem. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ John Robles --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com, Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
please dont send any more E-MAIL. From: kathal...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:44:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring From the wording, it looks like someone in Nigeria has hacked his email. From the Desk of Kat Hall Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) Review Coordinator Author Liaison www.champagnebooks.com www.carnalpassions.com www.thewritersvineyard.com -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:39 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Folks, Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the spring as long as you have the older style crane. http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa5ef258a Steve On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: WTF is that all about??? John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought until they had the problem. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ John Robles --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com, Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing
Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder
Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a musical Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. Then you can rivet it back on. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace the ball. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
I think the gentleman's first language is not English and maybe he is wishing to be unsubscribed from the list. Darren On 10 nov 2010, at 15.57, Jean-Charles Leblanc wrote: thanks for understand me and please dont send any more E-MAIL. Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:15:51 -0800 From: lo...@oldcrank.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles, ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] [OFF-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring
French Canadian would be my guess. I Wrote an ebay seller once that was a French Canadian and the English was the same. The Frenchmen I have written to had excellent English. From: kathal...@gmail.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 20:44:49 -0700 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring From the wording, it looks like someone in Nigeria has hacked his email. From the Desk of Kat Hall Executive Assistant to Ms. Smith (Publisher) Review Coordinator Author Liaison www.champagnebooks.com www.carnalpassions.com www.thewritersvineyard.com -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc Sent: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 8:39 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring i told you people whaht i had to tell you ,now dont get smart,what is my bunesse is not yours,and be calm AND I DONT WHANT ANY OF YOUR PRODUCT. To: phono-l@oldcrank.org From: john9...@pacbell.net Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 00:01:54 + Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Jean-Charles- Who are you trying to communicate with??? If you have a problem with a seller on this board you need to take it up with them privately and off the public list. John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 18:42:23 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring hello,i made up my mind now that evry it clear,i guest i wont buy any of your products,PS.dont send me any of dose gramophones i whont accept any of them so every that is clear for you,forget about evrey thing once again i dont whant to order any of your product. From: ander...@tampabay.rr.com Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 14:07:27 -0500 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring Folks, Again, This is what is required to make it work and what was originally supplied with the early style Edison Cygnet horn cranes. You dont need the spring as long as you have the older style crane. http://cgi.ebay.com/HORN-CONNECTOR-EDISON-COLUMBIA-CYLINDER-PHONOGRAPH-/320611493258?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0hash=item4aa5ef258a Steve On Nov 9, 2010, at 12:57 PM, john9...@pacbell.net wrote: WTF is that all about??? John Robles Sent from my Verizon Wireless BlackBerry -Original Message- From: Jean-Charles Leblanc jeancharle...@hotmail.com Sender: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org Date: Tue, 9 Nov 2010 12:51:17 To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Reply-To: Antique Phonograph List phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring what do tou mein by no spring,that not new product,your suppose to sell it complete,and what is the price you never told me your price i am having trouble to get the price out of you people PS.and dose gramophomes is not miniature,and before shipping any thing i whant to be clear about everyting the price the shipping price and the description of any items is that clear,your shipping nothing before my autorisation is that clear. From: steve_nor...@msn.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 22:14:49 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring People I know have one and it lifts up the reproducer one the one end of the record, on the other is it way too heavy on a fireside. My idea is to convert it to the new style. Thanks for the reply, I never gave this any thought until they had the problem. Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2010 19:11:36 -0800 From: john9...@pacbell.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring I would not think that they would track well, without the 'give' of the spring. The rigid bolt connection seems as if it would be very stiff. For those who are unfamiliar with this early horn, I have posted a picture of the horn and crane and the suspension bolt at this link: http://s197.photobucket.com/albums/aa39/john9ten/Early%20Cygnet%20Horn/ John Robles --- On Mon, 11/8/10, Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com wrote: From: Steven Medved steve_nor...@msn.com Subject: [Phono-L] Early cygnet horn without the spring To: phonolist phonol...@yahoogroups.com, Phono-l phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Monday, November 8, 2010, 6:08 PM Hello, Does anyone have an early cygnet horn without the spring? How do these work without the coil spring? I have seen them but it does not look like a workable system to me. Steve
[Phono-L] Please remove me from this site. Subjects are beaten to death.
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Re: [Phono-L] ( Early cygnet horn without the spring )Isn't there a subject line?
Yeesh I saw there 28 messages.. looked at subject. But 90% were comments about someone wanted to be off the list. EVERY one of you just hit reply and left the Cygnet Horn subject line. Suggestion. READ the subject line before you hit reply. Take a moment and make sure the subject line is relevant to your reply. If you want to be funny, that's fine too but on 78-L we use a carat (^) after the subject which mean;s it's off topic and really means If you don't have time to read an off topic or attempt at humor, just delete this post. It works pretty well there. Steve ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] Jack Palmer
Did I miss a posting somewhere? I JUST heard that our good friend Jack Palmer (Mr. Vernon Dalhart) died just before Halloween! There will be a short tribute to him in the December In The Groove but this was shocking news to me! Jack contributed so much to our hobby and was the nicest guy to chat with at ARSC Conferences - where he gave his Dalhart paper. (SAdly it was before the Conference programs were put up on the ARSC website for us all to hear.). I did dig through my photos and found one I took of him giving his paper at the ARSC Conference in Austin in 2005. I'd like to share this tribute to Jack. Look at the photo at: _http://tinyurl.com/29faytb_ (http://tinyurl.com/29faytb)and think of our friend. Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Jack Palmer
Steve, Bob Olson called me this weekend re Jack. Very sad indeed. your post reminds me that I have not yet returned Bob's call. Jack was a pioneer. He will be missed. Mike stitt On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 6:43 PM, srsel...@aol.com wrote: Did I miss a posting somewhere? I JUST heard that our good friend Jack Palmer (Mr. Vernon Dalhart) died just before Halloween! There will be a short tribute to him in the December In The Groove but this was shocking news to me! Jack contributed so much to our hobby and was the nicest guy to chat with at ARSC Conferences - where he gave his Dalhart paper. (SAdly it was before the Conference programs were put up on the ARSC website for us all to S.). I did dig through my photos and found one I took of him giving his paper at the ARSC Conference in Austin in 2005. I'd like to share this tribute to Jack. Look at the photo at: _http://tinyurl.com/29faytb_ (http://tinyurl.com/29faytb)and think of our friend. Steve Ramm ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder
Dave, Thanks for that idea, I never thought of Don Gfell or Mirek. Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 09:35:18 -0800 From: dda...@sbcglobal.net To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder Don Gfell may be able to help. He needs them for his wooden horns. I think that Mirek Stehlik in Kitchener, Ontario used to make them, too. Dave --- On Wed, 11/10/10, Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com wrote: From: Vinyl Visions vinyl.visi...@live.com Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wednesday, November 10, 2010, 8:30 AM I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace the ball. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder
I've been afraid to remove the rivets, since I don't know what method they used originally to put the rivets in without distorting the horn... any ideas? From: lhera...@bu.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:00:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a musical Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. Then you can rivet it back on. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace the ball. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] (no subject)
Does anyone have any spare parts for a dancing rastus or just the top parts with chickens, boxers, etc. ? Also, since Charlie Weatherbee quit making repros, does anyone have patterns for them? Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
[Phono-L] This should have read: Dancing Rastus, etc.
From: vinyl.visi...@live.com To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 23:02:16 -0500 Subject: [Phono-L] (no subject) Does anyone have any spare parts for a dancing rastus or just the top parts with chickens, boxers, etc. ? Also, since Charlie Weatherbee quit making repros, does anyone have patterns for them? Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder
It was probably a riveting tool with a long reach. You could pop rivet them but that would not look quite right from the inside. Anyone else know more about riveting? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder I've been afraid to remove the rivets, since I don't know what method they used originally to put the rivets in without distorting the horn... any ideas? From: lhera...@bu.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:00:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a musical Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. Then you can rivet it back on. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace the ball. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder
Is it really so bad the rivets must come out? Even if the metal is split I'll bet you could close it up. This sounds like one of those jobs you wish you left alone. Rivet drilling can go wrong in a heartbeat. If you can drill the outside head with a matching bit ( a little smaller that the rivet head) but do not drill thru'. Be very careful. Just thin the rivet. Next with a smaller bit drill thru' the center but not through the rivet. Take a punch and gently tap it out. The rivet head should break apart at the shank when you tap it. If not thin the head out more so. Small brass rivets will be your best bet. I'd use nuts and bolts over pop rivets.You might give thought if you use brass rivets to drill the shank with a small bit. That way when you set them the rivet should give with less force. If you use nuts and bolts use brass. File the nuts down very thin and even file them round. Cut the screws just long enough so when you bolt it together the screw should not extend past the thin nut. Using brass you can fill the slotted head in with solder. Either use rub n buff or just black model paint. It is un-doable if need be and will look better than you think. Mike Stitt Good luck. Mike Stitt On Wed, Nov 10, 2010 at 10:10 PM, Ron L'Herault lhera...@bu.edu wrote: It was probably a riveting tool with a long reach. You could pop rivet them but that would not look quite right from the inside. Anyone else know more about riveting? Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 10:58 PM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder I've been afraid to remove the rivets, since I don't know what method they used originally to put the rivets in without distorting the horn... any ideas? From: lhera...@bu.edu To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Date: Wed, 10 Nov 2010 10:00:17 -0500 Subject: Re: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder Have you tried drilling out the rivets and taking the part to a musical Instrument repair shop? They may be able to straighten it out. Then you can rivet it back on. Ron L -Original Message- From: phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org [mailto:phono-l-boun...@oldcrank.org] On Behalf Of Vinyl Visions Sent: Wednesday, November 10, 2010 8:30 AM To: phono-l@oldcrank.org Subject: [Phono-L] Cygnet Horn Ball Holder I don't know what you call it exactly, but does anyone sell replacements for the brass ball holder that is riveted to a cygnet horn? If so, how do you go about replacing it? Mine was torn up by someone trying to replace the ball. Curt ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org ___ Phono-L mailing list http://phono-l.oldcrank.org
