Re: [PHP-DEV] Moderate PHP-DEV

2003-03-12 Thread Magnus M 9 !
On Wed, 12 Mar 2003 20:14:03 +0100 (CET)
Derick Rethans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 Instead of this it might be a better idea to make somebody's first post 
 moderated, after it has been approved the poster is added to the allow 
 list, if not he gets back a message like I copypaste everytime now :)
 If they are not approved, and they repost... they just nobody replies to 
 the Moderator request.
 
 You then solve:
 a. people not reading the reply to the first post and just repost again
 b. people who are contributing stuff dont need to repost their mail, or 
do other tricks to get their stuff posted
 c. there is much less to moderate
 
 You lose:
 a. nothing :)

That sounds better..

/ Magnus

ps.
No need to cc me =)

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Re: [PHP-DEV] Zend Constants PATCH

2002-06-15 Thread Magnus M!91

ok, sorry.. Missed that one..


On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 22:44:24 +0300
Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 We're not going to add configuration options which change the language's 
 behavior!
 We've said this a million times.
 
 Andi
 
 At 09:41 PM 6/15/2002 +0200, Magnus M wrote:
 What about a configuration option in php.ini
 use_case_sensitive = 0|1
 and let it be 0 as default ?
 
 
 On Sat, 15 Jun 2002 22:25:18 +0300
 Andi Gutmans [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 
   Ilia,
  
   I remember now the problem you're talking about. It has been discussed 
  here
   in the past and I don't recall us having found a good solution. Basically
   we need a solution which is backwards compatible but will allow TEST and
   test to co-exist if case sensitivity was chosen for them.
   It's something to think about and not create a quick 2 line patch for the
   problem. I think one of the suggestions was using two hash tables. First
   doing a case-sensitive lookup and only if the constant isn't found doing a
   case-insensitive lookup.
  
   Andi
  
   At 03:40 PM 6/15/2002 -0400, Ilia A. wrote:
   Andi,
   
   Yes, you are correct in that respect, my patch would accomplish just that.
   No where in PHP documentation does it say that you cannot have TEST 
  and test
   defines in the same script. Unless you specifically tell the define()
   function to treat the define as case insensitive.
   Because the defines are always lowercased unless the defines for i18n 
  systems
   are always declared in lower case any define with a letter 'I' for example
   would break on a system using most non English locales. This is a VERY
   serious problems, for example consider the reversal of the htmlenteties()
   function. The following code:
   get_html_translation_table (HTML_ENTITIES);
   will break if a ru_UI or tr_TR or any other number of non-English 
  locales are
   exported.
   
   In addition because all locales are lower cased defines suffer large
   performance degradation when compared to other variables because 
  another copy
   of the define name needs to be allocated and then lower cased every single
   time a define is declared or retrieved.
   
   As far as I know, php variables are always case sensitive and there is 
  now
   way
   to make them not, why an exception was made for defines I do not know,
   especially when you consider that in C and C++ defines are ALWAYS case
   sensitive. IMHO this is a very bad feature, that not only implements 
  useless
   functionality but actually causes PHP code to break.
   Therefor, I humbly ask that you reconsider your position on this issue.
   
   
   Ilia
   
   
   On June 15, 2002 03:03 pm, you wrote:
 Ilia,

 Your patch basically makes PHP constants case sensitive.
 Changing this is a very big backwards compatibility problem.
 You're not supposed to register two define's with the same letters but
 different case.

 Andi

 At 01:21 PM 6/15/2002 -0400, Ilia A. wrote:
 Hello,
 
 While developing software in PHP that supports i18n I've come across
  several problems that affect defines made in PHP.
 The first problem is that when a define is declared and its name 
  contains
 upper case characters such as I, the define becomes unusable if a 
  locale,
 which does not support those chracters is exported, such as tr_TR or
  ru_IU. Bug Report at: http://bugs.php.net/bug.php?id=16865
 
 There is a problem with case sensetivity of defines, for example, 
  if you
 create a case sensetive define 'TEST' and then a case sensetive define
 'test', the latter define's value will be lost.
 Bug Report at: http://bugs.php.net/?id=17658
 
 The problem occurs because zend internally (zend_constants.c) seems to
  always lowecase the define before it is fetched/added to the hash 
  table
  of defines. This causes problem for i18n because the define is 
  lowercased
  using c's tolower function, which is affected by locale settings. 
  Because
  it is stored as lower case, having 2 defines with the same name 
  but in
  different case also becomes impossible to do.
 
 Attached is a patch against zend_constants.c CVS revision 1.38 
  that fixes
 both
 of these bugs, I hope the developers would consider adding this 
  patch to
  the CVS.
 
 Ilia
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