[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Apache 2 installation instructions
Hallo Melvyn, Tuesday, October 29, 2002, 9:55:31 AM, you wrote: At 08:43 29-10-2002, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: The aspect people complaining about is more a version thingie, e.g. they try to set up php 4.2.3 with apache 2.0.43 and this could not succeed. Is it really necessary to document that apache 2.03x works only with php 4.2.x1, php4.2.x2 and apache 2.04x only with php4.2y1 or php4.2.y2? It should be clearly mentioned, that the support for apache2 isn't production stable ;-) I think, it would be nice to add information to one place, the documentation about Apache 2 support. 1. It's not production ready Ah yes - but that will contradict greatly, to the best version yet marketing trick the Apache Group is advertising on their front page. We can mention it to users, in the bug db etc. But officially documenting, that Apache 2 is really a beta product, doesn't really express consistency, between the family. I thought it more from another point of view: the support for apache2 in php is not production stable ,e.g. the sapi in php :-) Maybe this is due to the fact (?) that apache2 is still beta (I really don't know) but form the php-side point of view, php-versions are not production stable in conjunction with apache2. As Derick said, I don't think this will hurt someone of the apachegroup. [...] but besides this, it would be kind, if just someone could provide some infos from the php-side, like the *.exe names one windows ;-) Friedhelm -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Apache 2 installation instructions
At 11:30 10/29/2002 +0100, Friedhelm Betz wrote:
I think, it would be nice to add information to one place, the
documentation
about Apache 2 support.
1. It's not production ready
Ah yes - but that will contradict greatly, to the best version yet
marketing
trick the Apache Group is advertising on their front page.
We can mention it to users, in the bug db etc. But officially
documenting, that
Apache 2 is really a beta product, doesn't really express consistency,
between
the family.
I thought it more from another point of view: the support for apache2
in php is not production stable ,e.g. the sapi in php :-)
That's exactly what is the perception. I can live with that, but it's not very
stimulating for the people that work on apachefilter.
Since the 'official' release, Apache has changed it's API breaking BC 2 times
already. How can extension developers work on improvement then?
Maybe this is due to the fact (?) that apache2 is still beta (I really
don't know) but form the php-side point of view, php-versions are not
production stable in conjunction with apache2.
Maybe for windows it's the better version - I have no idea.
For unix it's far from that.
As Derick said, I don't
think this will hurt someone of the apachegroup.
Fine with me - we all know better -;)
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RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Apache 2 installation instructions
Derick Rethans writes: On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Gabor Hojtsy wrote: As far as I can see, we should not not put into the PHP documentation that Apache 2 is not production ready, but PHP is not production ready for Apache 2. But it's incorrect :). By saying Do not use Apache 2 and PHP in a production environment you don't blame any of the two projects. I agree with Derick's approach. There's no need to cast dispersions on either Apache2 or PHP. Simply stating _clearly_ that the combination of PHP4 and Apache2 should not be used in a production environment is sufficient. No need to play the blame-game. :) Regards Mike Robinson -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] RE: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC]Apache 2 installation instructions
As far as I can see, we should not not put into the PHP documentation that Apache 2 is not production ready, but PHP is not production ready for Apache 2. But it's incorrect :). By saying Do not use Apache 2 and PHP in a production environment you don't blame any of the two projects. I agree with Derick's approach. There's no need to cast dispersions on either Apache2 or PHP. Simply stating _clearly_ that the combination of PHP4 and Apache2 should not be used in a production environment is sufficient. No need to play the blame-game. :) Ack. So then, please add us some info on PHP - Apache2 versions compatibility so we can add the info to the docs. Or is it only Sascha who knows this (apache2 sapi author)? Goba -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Re: [PHP-DEV] Re: [PHP-DOC] Apache 2 installation instructions
I think, it would be nice to add information to one place, the documentation about Apache 2 support. 1. It's not production ready Ah yes - but that will contradict greatly, to the best version yet marketing trick the Apache Group is advertising on their front page. We can mention it to users, in the bug db etc. But officially documenting, that Apache 2 is really a beta product, doesn't really express consistency, between the family. I thought it more from another point of view: the support for apache2 in php is not production stable ,e.g. the sapi in php :-) That's exactly what is the perception. I can live with that, but it's not very stimulating for the people that work on apachefilter. Since the 'official' release, Apache has changed it's API breaking BC 2 times already. How can extension developers work on improvement then? For sure I don't want to blame anybody working on the php sapi for apache2 nor discourage them :-) I believe they do their best... Maybe this is due to the fact (?) that apache2 is still beta (I really don't know) but form the php-side point of view, php-versions are not production stable in conjunction with apache2. Maybe for windows it's the better version - I have no idea. For unix it's far from that. As Derick said, I don't think this will hurt someone of the apachegroup. Fine with me - we all know better -;) ;-) Friedhelm -- +++ GMX - Mail, Messaging more http://www.gmx.net +++ NEU: Mit GMX ins Internet. Rund um die Uhr für 1 ct/ Min. surfen! -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
