RE: [PHP-DEV] The new design
Title: RE: [PHP-DEV] The new design I like the new design, but it is critically flawed. In Netscape 4.75 linux and windows, Cut and Paste ability is no longer available for code samples. I've learned to rely heavily on cut and pasting PHP sample code when working with functionality I am new to. I realize you probably want people to type it out, but for more seasoned developers, it's a PITA we dont Needa. -B -Bob Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP-DEV] The new design
This is really not the good approach... when couple of people in #php were talking about a new redesigned PHP site, i was expecting a much better.. and good looking site not like one that is up currently. I miss almost every feature.. those quickref things.. those DHTML popups... that sweet layout... almost everything. Please restore the layout to the old one or make a better one. Thanks
SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
I agree with you, Varun! I miss the quick ref very much. Please get this section up again! But i'm happy with the new much faster design, it's the good thing with the new design. Can we get the Quick Ref up again?? /Johan -Oprindelig meddelelse-Fra: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]På vegne af Varun ShoorSendt: 9. marts 2001 04:12Til: [EMAIL PROTECTED]Emne: [PHP-DEV] The new design This is really not the good approach... when couple of people in #php were talking about a new redesigned PHP site, i was expecting a much better.. and good looking site not like one that is up currently. I miss almost every feature.. those quickref things.. those DHTML popups... that sweet layout... almost everything. Please restore the layout to the old one or make a better one. Thanks
Re: [PHP-DEV] The new design
On Thu, 08 Mar 2001, Varun Shoor wrote: This is really not the good approach... when couple of people in #php were talking about a new redesigned PHP site, i was expecting a much better.. and good looking site not like one that is up currently. I miss almost every feature.. those quickref things.. those DHTML popups... that sweet layout... almost everything. Please restore the layout to the old one or make a better one. Thanks Old layout was very intensive and took a while to load - the new one is much cleaner.. -Andrei * It said 'Winmodem' on the box, but I still feel like I lost. * -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
RE: [PHP-DEV] The new design
-Original Message- From: Johan Holst Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 8. marts 2001 15:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design Can we get the Quick Ref up again?? This list isn't really for this kind of discussion, but why not just use http://php.net/keyword - replace keyword with something relevant. Regards Christian Jrgensen -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
-Original Message- From: Johan Holst Nielsen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 8. marts 2001 15:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design Can we get the Quick Ref up again?? This list isn't really for this kind of discussion, but why not just use http://php.net/keyword - replace keyword with something relevant. I think there is a problem. I can about all PHP commands, but new users of PHP have big problems. The Quick Ref was very good, when a new user should begin learning PHP and didn't know which command the user should use! I have also used the Quick Ref many times, so please get it up again! /Johan -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:57:32PM +0100, Johan Holst Nielsen wrote: Can we get the Quick Ref up again?? This list isn't really for this kind of discussion, but why not just use http://php.net/keyword - replace keyword with something relevant. I think there is a problem. I can about all PHP commands, but new users of PHP have big problems. The Quick Ref was very good, when a new user should begin learning PHP and didn't know which command the user should use! I have also used the Quick Ref many times, so please get it up again! If you read the second paragraph of the "New Site Design" headline, you'll see that the quickref widget is still available on the manual pages. -- Jon Parise ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) . Rochester Inst. of Technology http://www.csh.rit.edu/~jon/ : Computer Science House Member -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
At 18:00 8/3/2001, Jon Parise wrote: On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 04:57:32PM +0100, Johan Holst Nielsen wrote: Can we get the Quick Ref up again?? This list isn't really for this kind of discussion, but why not just use http://php.net/keyword - replace keyword with something relevant. I think there is a problem. I can about all PHP commands, but new users of PHP have big problems. The Quick Ref was very good, when a new user should begin learning PHP and didn't know which command the user should use! I have also used the Quick Ref many times, so please get it up again! If you read the second paragraph of the "New Site Design" headline, you'll see that the quickref widget is still available on the manual pages. I generally like the new design, but this statement appears to be trying to fix the symptom, instead of the problem itself. If so many people miss the quick search, and since this paragraph will be gone with time, the right solution should most probably be restoring the Quick Search link to the front page... Zeev -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
(cc'ed [EMAIL PROTECTED] please continue this discussion there.) In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], "Zeev Suraski" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I generally like the new design, but this statement appears to be trying to fix the symptom, instead of the problem itself. If so many people miss the quick search, and since this paragraph will be gone with time, the right solution should most probably be restoring the Quick Search link to the front page... but i don't believe the problem is people in general finding the quickref -- it's people who are used to it being there on the main page. the reason i don't mind seeing it gone from the main page is that i think having two search-like boxes on the same page that behave differently is confusing. but maybe the 'search' box in the header should really be a quickref box. that seems more likely to pull up what most people want. if someone wants to do an actual search for a function name on other pages, they'd then have to go to the search page and search from there. (as for the page listing all the functions, it's still there at http://www.php.net/quickref.php.) jim -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
* Jim Winstead wrote: the reason i don't mind seeing it gone from the main page is that i think having two search-like boxes on the same page that behave differently is confusing. Have a look at http://www.php-center.de/ - on the left side, there's the normal search box, on the right side the "Quickref"-Box. -- Bjrn Schotte [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://rent-a-phpwizard.de/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] Software dev advocate: http://www.advogato.org/person/baerli/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
At 19:47 8/3/2001, Jim Winstead wrote: but maybe the 'search' box in the header should really be a quickref box. that seems more likely to pull up what most people want. if someone wants to do an actual search for a function name on other pages, they'd then have to go to the search page and search from there. (as for the page listing all the functions, it's still there at http://www.php.net/quickref.php.) I'm not sure it's a big issue (having two different boxes), but I tend to agree that if we do limit ourselves to one box, it should probably be the quickref, with the Search sitting on a dedicated page. Zeev -- Zeev Suraski [EMAIL PROTECTED] CTO co-founder, Zend Technologies Ltd. http://www.zend.com/ -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: SV: [PHP-DEV] The new design
On Thu, Mar 08, 2001 at 07:17:42PM +0100, Bjrn Schotte wrote: * Jim Winstead wrote: the reason i don't mind seeing it gone from the main page is that i think having two search-like boxes on the same page that behave differently is confusing. Have a look at http://www.php-center.de/ - on the left side, there's the normal search box, on the right side the "Quickref"-Box. I would prefer one search box, less confusing and you can then also in many browsers just press enter to start searching. I like the way it is now with a list to select search target. What I think perhaps should be added, is simply a link to http://www.php.net/manual-lookup.php. One can get there by searching for a non-existing function, but a link could be good. I generally like the new cleaner design. Stig -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To contact the list administrators, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
