RE: [PHP-DEV] php_value vs. php_admin_value

2002-10-22 Thread Ford, Mike [LSS]
 -Original Message-
 From: Rasmus Lerdorf [mailto:rasmus;php.net]
 Sent: 21 October 2002 05:49
 
 admin directives can only be used in the httpd.conf file.  
 Non-admins can
 be used in both httpd.conf and .htaccess.  ie. directives 
 that end-users
 should not be able to change themselves should be admin ones.

But the documentation is still not sufficiently clear on how to decide when
to use php_ directives and when to use php_admin_.  When I first came to do
a setup using these, I had a number of questions, and whilst I think I can
make an intelligent guess at some of the answers, I'm still not absolutely
sure.  The documentation should, clearly and unambiguously, answer all of
these:

* How do I decide when to use php_admin_* and when php_*?
  Is it based on the PHP_INI_* settings?
  - If so which one(s)?
  - If not, what is it based on?

* Can I use php_admin_* to set options have the PHP_INI_USER
  attribute (or PHP_INI_ALL)?
  - If so does that stop them from subsequently being
altered in other contexts (specifically in user scripts?).

Even after running a number of tests, I'm just not sufficiently sure of the
answers to suggest specific improvements -- but if someone in the know
could write a paragraph or two to answer the above questions, it would be a
major improvement.

(Shall I file a Documentation problem bug report?)

Cheers!

Mike

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Re: [PHP-DEV] php_value vs. php_admin_value

2002-10-21 Thread Rasmus Lerdorf
admin directives can only be used in the httpd.conf file.  Non-admins can
be used in both httpd.conf and .htaccess.  ie. directives that end-users
should not be able to change themselves should be admin ones.

-Rasmus

On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Jani Taskinen wrote:


 Can someone explain what the difference between
 these 'php_value' and 'php_admin_value' directives is?
 (and same goes of course for php_flag vs. php_admin_flag..)

 --Jani



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Re: [PHP-DEV] php_value vs. php_admin_value

2002-10-21 Thread Jon Parise
On Mon, Oct 21, 2002 at 07:46:53AM +0300, Jani Taskinen wrote:

 Can someone explain what the difference between
 these 'php_value' and 'php_admin_value' directives is?
 (and same goes of course for php_flag vs. php_admin_flag..)
 
As I recall (and I'm not looking at the code right now to back this
up), the php_admin_* versions are for INI options that can only be set
administratively (i.e. PHP_INI_SYSTEM), meaning they can't be
changed by user-level operations.

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Re: [PHP-DEV] php_value vs. php_admin_value

2002-10-21 Thread Jani Taskinen
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Rasmus Lerdorf wrote:

admin directives can only be used in the httpd.conf file.  Non-admins can
be used in both httpd.conf and .htaccess.  ie. directives that end-users
should not be able to change themselves should be admin ones.

Thanks. This was explained also in manual.. :I

--Jani



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