Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: mbstring is stable including mbregex feature. Since it was avialable as 3rd party module for a long time. that was what i thought about ext/ctype remember what it did to MacOS/X when i finaly enabled it by default? -- Hartmut Holzgraefe [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://www.six.de +49-711-99091-77 -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: mbstring is stable including mbregex feature. Since it was avialable as 3rd party module for a long time. that was what i thought about ext/ctype remember what it did to MacOS/X when i finaly enabled it by default? Exactly what I thought. I've the following reasons not to make mbstring default in PHP 4.2.0 this late in the release process: 1. We're past 4.2.0rc2, and quoteing from the Release Process Timeline: 03-04-2002 Release Candidate 2 After RC2 is release only severe and/or critical bugs that are found in the HEAD branch should be merged This neither qualifies as a severe or critical bug. 2. You don't know what will happen on weird platforms (such as MacOSX, HPUX or IRIX p.e.). It needs testing first 3. A lot of changes where done to this module lately 4. --enable-mbstring isn't that much typing regards, Derick --- Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/registry/SLCB276UZU8B --- PHP: Scripting the Web - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your branches are belong to me! SRM: Script Running Machine - www.vl-srm.net --- -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: mbstring is stable including mbregex feature. Since it was avialable as 3rd party module for a long time. that was what i thought about ext/ctype remember what it did to MacOS/X when i finaly enabled it by default? Exactly what I thought. I've the following reasons not to make mbstring default in PHP 4.2.0 this late in the release process: 1. We're past 4.2.0rc2, and quoteing from the Release Process Timeline: 03-04-2002 Release Candidate 2 After RC2 is release only severe and/or critical bugs that are found in the HEAD branch should be merged Sounds resonable and I'm expecting this reply ;) Some people want mbstring almost always (i.e. Under hosting environment) Anyway, we can try make it standard for 4.3.0. We have long time to fix problem if we set target to 4.3.0. Any objections? -- Yasuo Ohgaki -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Sounds resonable and I'm expecting this reply ;) :) Some people want mbstring almost always (i.e. Under hosting environment) Anyway, we can try make it standard for 4.3.0. We have long time to fix problem if we set target to 4.3.0. Any objections? Nope, not from me. But I really wonder how many ppl use it (outside japan/korean) regards, Derick --- Did I help you? Consider a gift: http://www.amazon.co.uk/exec/obidos/registry/SLCB276UZU8B --- PHP: Scripting the Web - [EMAIL PROTECTED] All your branches are belong to me! SRM: Script Running Machine - www.vl-srm.net --- -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Sounds resonable and I'm expecting this reply ;) :) Some people want mbstring almost always (i.e. Under hosting environment) Anyway, we can try make it standard for 4.3.0. We have long time to fix problem if we set target to 4.3.0. Any objections? Nope, not from me. But I really wonder how many ppl use it (outside japan/korean) I don't know. However, if US/EU hosting providers support mbstring, Japanese/Korean/Chinese users may use them. So it will be good for single byte users!? It's also useful detecting UTF-*, UCS-* encoding at least. (mbstring conversion is faster than iconv generally) -- Yasuo Ohgaki -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
Okay so I cut out a few user names here but... On Sat, 6 Apr 2002, Hartmut Holzgraefe wrote: Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: mbstring is stable including mbregex feature. Since it was avialable as 3rd party module for a long time. that was what i thought about ext/ctype remember what it did to MacOS/X when i finaly enabled it by default? Hartmut you're concerns are exactly the same as mine here. :) How many different platforms has mbstring been tested on? I really haven't even tried to use it or compile it, even when doing a lot of i18n work. --- Dan KalowskyThe record shows, I took the blows. http://www.deadmime.org/~dankAnd did it my way. [EMAIL PROTECTED]- My Way, Frank Sinatra -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
On 06/04/02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: We have long time to fix problem if we set target to 4.3.0. Any objections? Nope, not from me. But I really wonder how many ppl use it (outside japan/korean) Well, I'm using it to decode quoted-printable and base64 encodings in the mailparse extension. The reason I'm using it and not the other implementations of the same in PHP is that the mbfilter part of the mbstring extension allows streaming or incremental processing, which is very useful for large message content. (Just think of malloc'ing 10MB to hold a message body, then malloc'ing another 10MB as a buffer to decode it). I'm using mbstring for projects in Asia, but also use it for generally handling utf-8, although I do end up using a mixture of iconv, recode and mbstring depending on which encodings I need to decode (you get all kinds of strange things turning up in email*). For some reason, some libraries work better than others for particular encodings *shrug*. --Wez. * Brain Dead content-type Hall of Fame: charset=x-unknown charset=default_charset charset=uk-ascii -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 03:00, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hi, Any comment for making mbstring a standard module in HEAD? Some user ask me if it's possible make it standard in 4.2.0, any comments? If it's stable, I don't see why not. It's Derick's call though. - Stig -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP-DEV] Make mbstring a standard module
Stig S. Bakken wrote: On Sat, 2002-04-06 at 03:00, Yasuo Ohgaki wrote: Hi, Any comment for making mbstring a standard module in HEAD? Some user ask me if it's possible make it standard in 4.2.0, any comments? If it's stable, I don't see why not. It's Derick's call though. mbstring is stable including mbregex feature. Since it was avialable as 3rd party module for a long time. -- Yasuo Ohgaki -- PHP Development Mailing List http://www.php.net/ To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
