php-general Digest 3 Apr 2006 00:02:13 -0000 Issue 4049
php-general Digest 3 Apr 2006 00:02:13 - Issue 4049 Topics (messages 233085 through 233090): Re: microsoft PHP ? 233085 by: tedd 233086 by: Miles Thompson 233087 by: Zouari Fourat 233088 by: tedd return path of mail function 233089 by: Andrew Darrow 233090 by: Chris Administrivia: To subscribe to the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe from the digest, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To post to the list, e-mail: php-general@lists.php.net -- ---BeginMessage--- At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote: Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again. If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides. tedd -- http://sperling.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- At 11:38 AM 4/2/2006, tedd wrote: At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote: Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again. If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides. tedd -- Ditto to what Tedd just wrote - a major client has a project stranded forever in VB6 because MSFT broke the model with VB.NET. There are constructs and structures which were perfectly legitimate when it was first conceived, when VB4 was the current version. So - when I was asked to write a little app to maintain some subscriber billing info and create some reports on the desktop side, which could have been done in Excel, I opted for PHP, PHP-GTK and MySQL. There was a learning curve with PHP-GTK's layout (Glade helped a lot!!) but this will continue to work, Windows or Linux, and should run on later Macs. Great feeling! Miles -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- the best april joke i got :) On 4/2/06, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote: Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again. If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides. tedd -- http://sperling.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- At 5:00 PM +0200 4/2/06, Zouari Fourat wrote: the best april joke i got :) It wasn't a joke. M$ has one thing on their mind, and that is $. If their bottom line isn't improved by whatever they produce, then they drop it. If it hurts thousands of developers who supported their product in process, then that's to be expected -- after all it's M$ That reminds me of story about a young girl who in the middle of winter came across a poisonous snake laying in the snow. She picked up the snake and took it in doors and placed it by the fire and gave it warm food and drink and saved the snake's life. The snake, after being revived, bit her. She proclaimed Why did you do that? I saved your life and now because you bit me, I'll die. The snake replied I don't understand your confusion, you knew I was a snake when you found me. Whenever possible, I now take the fork in the road not traveled by M$. tedd -- http://sperling.com ---End Message--- ---BeginMessage--- I'm having a problem setting the return-path using the mail function. I seem to be able to modify any of the other header information I want, but not this one item. Here's my code: $headers = Return-Path: Test test@test.com\r\n . From: Test test@test.com\r\n . Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n; $sub=Test sub; $msg=Test msg; $to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers, '-f test@test.com'); And here's the headers that come in: Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Apr
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
This one time, at band camp, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Zouari Fourat: lol, bet you feel silly now :) Of course, the real give away in the original article on www.phpro.org was the MS CEO Al Porfoli is an anagram of April Fool Kevin -- Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote: Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again. If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides. tedd -- http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
At 11:38 AM 4/2/2006, tedd wrote: At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote: Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again. If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides. tedd -- Ditto to what Tedd just wrote - a major client has a project stranded forever in VB6 because MSFT broke the model with VB.NET. There are constructs and structures which were perfectly legitimate when it was first conceived, when VB4 was the current version. So - when I was asked to write a little app to maintain some subscriber billing info and create some reports on the desktop side, which could have been done in Excel, I opted for PHP, PHP-GTK and MySQL. There was a learning curve with PHP-GTK's layout (Glade helped a lot!!) but this will continue to work, Windows or Linux, and should run on later Macs. Great feeling! Miles -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.1.385 / Virus Database: 268.3.4/299 - Release Date: 3/31/2006 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
the best april joke i got :) On 4/2/06, tedd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 4:20 PM -0500 4/1/06, Joe Wollard wrote: Leave poor Zouari alone! I for one think that Microsoft buying Zend would be the best thing to happen to PHP, EVAR! You might not think that way if you had been developing in M$ QuickBASIC for the Mac. One day M$ just said Nope, the line isn't making the money we want, so we're dropping it. There were a lot of developers who were left hanging -- I wouldn't want to be there again. If at all possible, I choose any alternative over what M$ provides. tedd -- http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
At 5:00 PM +0200 4/2/06, Zouari Fourat wrote: the best april joke i got :) It wasn't a joke. M$ has one thing on their mind, and that is $. If their bottom line isn't improved by whatever they produce, then they drop it. If it hurts thousands of developers who supported their product in process, then that's to be expected -- after all it's M$ That reminds me of story about a young girl who in the middle of winter came across a poisonous snake laying in the snow. She picked up the snake and took it in doors and placed it by the fire and gave it warm food and drink and saved the snake's life. The snake, after being revived, bit her. She proclaimed Why did you do that? I saved your life and now because you bit me, I'll die. The snake replied I don't understand your confusion, you knew I was a snake when you found me. Whenever possible, I now take the fork in the road not traveled by M$. tedd -- http://sperling.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] return path of mail function
I'm having a problem setting the return-path using the mail function. I seem to be able to modify any of the other header information I want, but not this one item. Here's my code: $headers = Return-Path: Test test@test.com\r\n . From: Test test@test.com\r\n . Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n; $sub=Test sub; $msg=Test msg; $to=[EMAIL PROTECTED]; mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers, '-f test@test.com'); And here's the headers that come in: Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Delivery-date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:19:45 -0500 Received: from nobody by amsterdam.servershost.net with local (Exim 4.52) id 1FQ933-00082V-8q for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:19:45 -0500 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Test sub X-PHP-Script: www.drewpydraws.com/crap.php for ip address From: Test test@test.com Reply-To: Test test@test.com Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 02 Apr 2006 15:19:45 -0500 X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.1.385 [268.3.4/299] Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain The From and Reply-To get set correctly so it works fine on e-mail clients, but some of the messages will be delievered to cell phones that display the return-path instead of from and reply-to. Any thoughts on how I would go about setting the value for Return-Path? ~Drew www.drewpydraws.com
Re: [PHP] return path of mail function
Andrew Darrow wrote:
I'm having a problem setting the return-path using the mail function. I seem to be able to modify any of the other header information I want, but not this one item.
Here's my code:
$headers = Return-Path: Test test@test.com\r\n .
From: Test test@test.com\r\n .
Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n;
$sub=Test sub;
$msg=Test msg;
$to=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers, '-f test@test.com');
No space between -f and the email.
I assume your host doesn't have safe-mode on? (You can't use this method
if so).
Check a phpinfo page and look for:
sendmail_from
If that's set, this way won't do it either, you'll need to do:
$orig_sendmail_from = ini_get('sendmail_from');
// this should match what phpinfo tells you but replace the email. so
might be '-f'.$return_path
ini_set('sendmail_from', $return_path);
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers);
and leave off the last parameter.
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Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
Joe Wollard wrote: I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I know they're on this list. I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of. Thanks! :-) Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) On 4/2/06, Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Wollard wrote: I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I know they're on this list. I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of. Thanks! :-) Chris
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
quote: Joe Wollard wrote: Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun./sarcasam Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) Joe Wollard wrote: Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) On 4/2/06, *Chris Shiflett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Wollard wrote: I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I know they're on this list. I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of. Thanks! :-) Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
oops forgot the first sarcasam .. oh well! :( Matt Richards wrote: quote: Joe Wollard wrote: Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun./sarcasam Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) Joe Wollard wrote: Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) On 4/2/06, *Chris Shiflett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Wollard wrote: I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I know they're on this list. I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of. Thanks! :-) Chris -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] microsoft PHP ?
el-oh-el. See, I forgot already. Good lookin' out Matt! On 4/2/06, Matt Richards [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: oops forgot the first sarcasam .. oh well! :( Matt Richards wrote: quote: Joe Wollard wrote: Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun./sarcasam Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) Joe Wollard wrote: Just as long as everyone knows that everything I said was all in good fun. Next time I'll be sure to use sarcasam just to be sure nothing is taken the wrong way ;-) On 4/2/06, *Chris Shiflett* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Joe Wollard wrote: I made fun of Chris and Rasmus specifically because I know they're on this list. I appreciate being considered important enough to make fun of. Thanks! :-) Chris
Re: [PHP] Looping information into a table
benifactor wrote: i am creating a forum and i am having trouble getting the database information in to an html table i believe it has somthing to do with the placement of the while loops because they repeat the segment of code over untill the statment returns false, thus adding extra html.. you guys are the experts so if you could help i would appreaciate it. i will give you the code and an example of how its shows up and then how i need it to show up and if you could point me in the right direction it would be awsome... It sure is. You're printing out the heading over and over again inside the second loop. try this code: http://pastebin.com/637039 I don't know if it was a mail problem, but can I suggest you indent your code, it makes it so much easier to see where your loops are. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Best authentication method for user
Hi, I would like to use a secure way how my user is authenticated. For that i was thinking to use session and register his login and password as session variable. Like that, when he will need to execute a query he will not have to type again everything but application will do it alone. What do you think about that ? Moreover, it should exist a default user with which, everybody will be able to execute some basic queries. i was thinking to store this login and password in hardcoding in some text file that will be used at the first web page (some file that i will include in my PHP code) after everything will be managed by PHP sessions and variables. i know that hardcoding is not the best secured solution, but really default user should not enter his login and password. So how can i do that ? thanks a lot for your answers. Alain
Re: [PHP] Best authentication method for user
Alain Roger wrote: Hi, I would like to use a secure way how my user is authenticated. For that i was thinking to use session and register his login and password as session variable. Like that, when he will need to execute a query he will not have to type again everything but application will do it alone. What do you think about that ? Moreover, it should exist a default user with which, everybody will be able to execute some basic queries. i was thinking to store this login and password in hardcoding in some text file that will be used at the first web page (some file that i will include in my PHP code) after everything will be managed by PHP sessions and variables. i know that hardcoding is not the best secured solution, but really default user should not enter his login and password. So how can i do that ? What exactly is your application doing? We can't really give much advice if we don't know what it's for. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Best authentication method for user
IN fact, i would like to have 2 profiles. 1 as common user : everybody should use this profile, to browse website and execute common queries. 1 as poweruser : this profile will require a logon in some ssl webpage. it is use to update/administrate database. for sure, people with poweruser profile should log-in, so they will type login and their password. however, the users profile do not have any reason to type login and password, they should only browse the website. their login and password will be only use to execute stored procedures/queries. that's why i would like to find a way how to secure it enough but login and password should come from somewhere. the application : a simple MySQL-PHP website for cosmetics services. (so prices, info, appointment reservation,..) does it help you ? Alain On 4/3/06, Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alain Roger wrote: Hi, I would like to use a secure way how my user is authenticated. For that i was thinking to use session and register his login and password as session variable. Like that, when he will need to execute a query he will not have to type again everything but application will do it alone. What do you think about that ? Moreover, it should exist a default user with which, everybody will be able to execute some basic queries. i was thinking to store this login and password in hardcoding in some text file that will be used at the first web page (some file that i will include in my PHP code) after everything will be managed by PHP sessions and variables. i know that hardcoding is not the best secured solution, but really default user should not enter his login and password. So how can i do that ? What exactly is your application doing? We can't really give much advice if we don't know what it's for. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/
Re: [PHP] Best authentication method for user
Alain Roger wrote: IN fact, i would like to have 2 profiles. 1 as common user : everybody should use this profile, to browse website and execute common queries. 1 as poweruser : this profile will require a logon in some ssl webpage. it is use to update/administrate database. for sure, people with poweruser profile should log-in, so they will type login and their password. however, the users profile do not have any reason to type login and password, they should only browse the website. their login and password will be only use to execute stored procedures/queries. that's why i would like to find a way how to secure it enough but login and password should come from somewhere. the application : a simple MySQL-PHP website for cosmetics services. (so prices, info, appointment reservation,..) I'd do it like this.. A non-logged-in user should only be doing searching, browsing categories, possibly adding to a shopping cart (if it exists). A logged-in user can make appointments. A super-user can change prices, make new categories and so on (in your admin area). Store details in the db session - or for a shopping cart, in a cookie so they can come back later and complete a purchase. On 4/3/06, *Chris* [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Alain Roger wrote: Hi, I would like to use a secure way how my user is authenticated. For that i was thinking to use session and register his login and password as session variable. Like that, when he will need to execute a query he will not have to type again everything but application will do it alone. What do you think about that ? Moreover, it should exist a default user with which, everybody will be able to execute some basic queries. i was thinking to store this login and password in hardcoding in some text file that will be used at the first web page (some file that i will include in my PHP code) after everything will be managed by PHP sessions and variables. i know that hardcoding is not the best secured solution, but really default user should not enter his login and password. So how can i do that ? What exactly is your application doing? We can't really give much advice if we don't know what it's for. -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- Postgresql php tutorials http://www.designmagick.com/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] return path of mail function
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safe mode is indeed off and sendmail_from has no value. I've modified the
code as below:
$return=test@test.com;
$orig_sendmail_from = ini_get('sendmail_from');
ini_set('sendmail_from', $return);
$headers = From: Test test@test.com\r\n .
Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n;
$sub=Test sub;
$msg=Test msg;
$to=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers);
What headers do you get when you do this?
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Re: [PHP] return path of mail function
The same as before:
Return-path: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Envelope-to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Delivery-date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:35:34 -0500
Received: from nobody by amsterdam.servershost.net with local (Exim 4.52)
id 1FQHiw-Kf-E4
for [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:35:34 -0500
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Test sub
X-PHP-Script: www.drewpydraws.com/crap.php for ip address
From: Test test@test.com
Reply-To: Test test@test.com
Message-Id: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 00:35:34 -0500
X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 7.1.385 [268.3.4/299]
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
~Drew
www.drewpydraws.com
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From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 10:31 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] return path of mail function
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Safe mode is indeed off and sendmail_from has no value. I've modified
the
code as below:
$return=test@test.com;
$orig_sendmail_from = ini_get('sendmail_from');
ini_set('sendmail_from', $return);
$headers = From: Test test@test.com\r\n .
Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n;
$sub=Test sub;
$msg=Test msg;
$to=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers);
What headers do you get when you do this?
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Re: [PHP] return path of mail function
Safe mode is indeed off and sendmail_from has no value. I've modified the
code as below:
$return=test@test.com;
$orig_sendmail_from = ini_get('sendmail_from');
ini_set('sendmail_from', $return);
$headers = From: Test test@test.com\r\n .
Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n;
$sub=Test sub;
$msg=Test msg;
$to=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers);
Still doesn't work. I also tried modifying the5th argument as
[EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED] neither of those worked either.
I'm not sure what i'm missing here. If it would help to view the phpinfo
from my host, you may do so here http://drewpydraws.com/phpinfo.php
~Drew
www.drewpydraws.com
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From: Chris [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Andrew Darrow [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 5:02 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] return path of mail function
Andrew Darrow wrote:
I'm having a problem setting the return-path using the mail function. I
seem to be able to modify any of the other header information I want, but
not this one item.
Here's my code:
$headers = Return-Path: Test test@test.com\r\n .
From: Test test@test.com\r\n .
Reply-To: Test test@test.com\r\n;
$sub=Test sub;
$msg=Test msg;
$to=[EMAIL PROTECTED];
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers, '-f test@test.com');
No space between -f and the email.
I assume your host doesn't have safe-mode on? (You can't use this method
if so).
Check a phpinfo page and look for:
sendmail_from
If that's set, this way won't do it either, you'll need to do:
$orig_sendmail_from = ini_get('sendmail_from');
// this should match what phpinfo tells you but replace the email. so
might be '-f'.$return_path
ini_set('sendmail_from', $return_path);
mail($to, $sub, $msg, $headers);
and leave off the last parameter.
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Re: [PHP] Best authentication method for user
For that i was thinking to use session and register his login and password as session variable. What do you think about that ? I personally would only hold a password for as long as it is needed to log them in. Then I'd set a session var that they have logged in and another session var for their level of access. But that's me. -- life is a game... so have fun. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
