php-general Digest 7 Oct 2006 23:50:04 -0000 Issue 4388
php-general Digest 7 Oct 2006 23:50:04 - Issue 4388
Topics (messages 242796 through 242804):
Re: Testing people
242796 by: Ryan A
Re: Unicode Problem
242797 by: tedd
Re: Set Variable = Long HTML String?
242798 by: sit1way
242799 by: John Wells
242800 by: David Tulloh
242801 by: John Wells
Re: set cookie with non-english
242802 by: Ahmad Al-Twaijiry
Re: Separate PHP Code From HTML || Pros Cons?
242803 by: sit1way
FTP
242804 by: Raphael Martins
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Thanks!
Will give it a look-see!
Cheers!
Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not exactly what you describe, but
you should take a look at:
http://www.bigredspark.com/survey.html
Dotan Cohen
http://what-is-what.com
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At 4:15 PM -0500 10/6/06, Richard Lynch wrote:
Perhaps you would care to extend your browsercam test to some
regression testing of more ancient browsers -- on Mac OS.
The following goes back to IE 5.2 for the Mac -- that's as far back
as BrowserCam goes.
http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=289683
I think you meant x2022 a.k.a. (dec)8226 :-)
Ahh, a typo thanks.
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Hey all.
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
Example:
$var = form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news
onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selectedNews Options/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/update/1/Update/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/delete/1/Delete/option
/select
/form;
This will die due to all the unescaped strings, not to mention the ? echo
$this-doc_path ? statements.
How to pull this off? I don't want to include the HTML snippets as they are
sprinkled throughout my classes.
TIA,
--Noah
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On 10/7/06, sit1way [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
Noah, meet HEREDOC. HEREDOC, meet Noah:
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.syntax.heredoc
Now you cozy two, let's make it a party with the Complex (Curly {}) syntax:
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.parsing.complex
All together now!
[code]
$var =HEREDOC
form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selected=selectedNews Options/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/update/1/Update/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/delete/1/Delete/option
/select
/form
HEREDOC;
[/code]
HTH,
John W
TIA,
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You can mingle double and singal quotes. So choose one for the PHP
quotes and one for the HTML quotes, HTML will use both interchangably.
For example your string could become:
$var = form name='events' ...;
I'd also look at the echo's inside the string, they look like they
shouldn't be there.
David
sit1way wrote:
Hey all.
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
You can mingle double and singal quotes. So choose one for the PHP
quotes and one for the HTML quotes, HTML will use both interchangably.
For example your string could become:
$var = form name='events' ...;
The echo's inside the string also aren't necessary. Just use the value
directly when building the string.
David
Example:
$var = form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news
onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selectedNews Options/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option value=? echo
Re: [PHP] Testing people
Thats why I love this list... people share and help so unselfishly.
Thanks Rich, sure didnt think of the way you wrote the solution till i read
your code!
Have a fab one!
Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought of having a hidden text box everytime for each question...
but that can be quite easily found out... any other suggestions?
Don't send the correct answer to the browser at all.
And don't tie the ABCD to the correct answer.
$question[47] = Which animal flies around at night and sleeps in
the day?
$answer[13] = 'cat';
$answer[14] = 'dog';
$answer[15] = 'trout';
$answer[16] = 'bat';
$correct[47] = 'bat';
?
Your HTML could look like this:
A [input] cat
B [input] dog
C [input] trout
D [input] bat
To test if the answer is correct:
$q = $_REQUEST['q'];
foreach($q as $index = $a){
if ($correct[$index] == $a) echo CORRECT;
else echo INCORRECT: Correct is $correct[$index];
echo
\n;
}
You could also use the index to $answer as the value with:
$correct[47] = 16;
[input] bat
if ($correct[$index] == $a){
and all the other code the same.
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Re: [PHP] Testing people
Thanks! Will give it a look-see! Cheers! Dotan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It's not exactly what you describe, but you should take a look at: http://www.bigredspark.com/survey.html Dotan Cohen http://what-is-what.com 7 -- - The faulty interface lies between the chair and the keyboard. - Creativity is great, but plagiarism is faster! - Smile, everyone loves a moron. :-) - Talk is cheap. Use Yahoo! Messenger to make PC-to-Phone calls. Great rates starting at 1cent;/min.
RE: [PHP] Unicode Problem
At 4:15 PM -0500 10/6/06, Richard Lynch wrote: Perhaps you would care to extend your browsercam test to some regression testing of more ancient browsers -- on Mac OS. The following goes back to IE 5.2 for the Mac -- that's as far back as BrowserCam goes. http://www.browsercam.com/public.aspx?proj_id=289683 I think you meant x2022 a.k.a. (dec)8226 :-) Ahh, a typo thanks. tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Set Variable = Long HTML String?
Hey all.
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
Example:
$var = form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news
onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selectedNews Options/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/update/1/Update/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/delete/1/Delete/option
/select
/form;
This will die due to all the unescaped strings, not to mention the ? echo
$this-doc_path ? statements.
How to pull this off? I don't want to include the HTML snippets as they are
sprinkled throughout my classes.
TIA,
--Noah
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Re: [PHP] Re: Set Variable = Long HTML String?
On 10/7/06, sit1way [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
Noah, meet HEREDOC. HEREDOC, meet Noah:
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.syntax.heredoc
Now you cozy two, let's make it a party with the Complex (Curly {}) syntax:
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.parsing.complex
All together now!
[code]
$var =HEREDOC
form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selected=selectedNews Options/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/update/1/Update/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/delete/1/Delete/option
/select
/form
HEREDOC;
[/code]
HTH,
John W
TIA,
--Noah
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Re: [PHP] Re: Set Variable = Long HTML String?
You can mingle double and singal quotes. So choose one for the PHP
quotes and one for the HTML quotes, HTML will use both interchangably.
For example your string could become:
$var = form name='events' ...;
I'd also look at the echo's inside the string, they look like they
shouldn't be there.
David
sit1way wrote:
Hey all.
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
You can mingle double and singal quotes. So choose one for the PHP
quotes and one for the HTML quotes, HTML will use both interchangably.
For example your string could become:
$var = form name='events' ...;
The echo's inside the string also aren't necessary. Just use the value
directly when building the string.
David
Example:
$var = form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news
onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selectedNews Options/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/update/1/Update/option
option value=? echo $this-doc_path
?admin/news/delete/1/Delete/option
/select
/form;
This will die due to all the unescaped strings, not to mention the ? echo
$this-doc_path ? statements.
How to pull this off? I don't want to include the HTML snippets as they are
sprinkled throughout my classes.
TIA,
--Noah
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Re: [PHP] Re: Set Variable = Long HTML String?
On 10/7/06, Noah Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Yah, John.
Just found it via Google.
I remembered seeing this somewhere a couple years back but never used it.
Very cool -- performance hit using this, or just a really useful function?
From what I understand it suffers the same hit as double quotes,
since PHP has to parse it looking for variables. But it's not really
special, it's just not as well known.
- John W
Thanks,
--Noah
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From: John Wells [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: sit1way [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: php-general@lists.php.net
Sent: Saturday, October 07, 2006 12:03 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Set Variable = Long HTML String?
On 10/7/06, sit1way [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm overhauling my PHP based CMS and want to know how to set a variable
equal to an HTML string, but without having to escape all the quotes!
Noah, meet HEREDOC. HEREDOC, meet Noah:
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.syntax.heredoc
Now you cozy two, let's make it a party with the Complex (Curly {})
syntax:
http://uk.php.net/manual/en/language.types.string.php#language.types.string.parsing.complex
All together now!
[code]
$var =HEREDOC
form name=events method=POST action=
select class=menus name=news
onChange=MM_jumpMenu('parent',this,0);
option selected=selectedNews Options/option
option value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/add/1/Add/option
option
value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/update/1/Update/option
option
value={$this-doc_path}admin/news/delete/1/Delete/option
/select
/form
HEREDOC;
[/code]
HTH,
John W
TIA,
--Noah
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Re: [PHP] set cookie with non-english
BTW I want to access the (cookie or session) variable from php javascript, so I don't think session is a solution so again, does anyone know how to resolve the problem so I can write the cookie output to UTF-8 html page ? On 10/5/06, Richard Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, October 3, 2006 11:18 pm, Ahmad Al-Twaijiry wrote: I already made the application with cookies, it's will be very defaucalt to go and replace cookies with session, is it possible to use cookies session in the same time ? ( session_start() setcookie in the same page ?) Sure... Though if it's hard to convert your Cookies code to session_start() you've done something very wrong already... ;-) -- Some people have a gift link here. Know what I want? I want you to buy a CD from some starving artist. http://cdbaby.com/browse/from/lynch Yeah, I get a buck. So? -- Ahmad Fahad AlTwaijiry -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: Separate PHP Code From HTML || Pros Cons?
Hey all.
I've built a simple, yet effective PHP based CMS, one that I use in all
sites I develop.
Unfortunately, from site-to-site, functionality may be different; i.e. I
often have to extend the original CMS to account for custom client needs,
which means grabbing the most recent version of my CMS, and hacking it to
address whatever customization is required.
This presents problems in that any updates I make to the CMS only affect the
site I'm working on. So, while working on one site I may make changes to
the CMS, changes that improve the app., but other older sites do not get
updated -- it's OK now, but things are getting sloppy ;--)
I would dearly love to have a base CMS repository that all sites would draw
on, extending the base CMS in the event that a particular client has need of
customization. Some combo of Linux and Apache would do the trick; e.g. PHP
requests for any of my sites would point to say, /home/cms/includes/
That would help (not solve) the version control problems I'm running into
now (still have to figure out how to extend the CMS for customization).
Now, the other issue I'd like to address is separating PHP code logic from
site HTML.
I've restructured my CMS classes to do all MySQL queries, code logic, etc.
prior to calling target HTML template. This is great in that now when an
error occurs, I can catch { throw new Exception($e) } and gracefully display
the error along with a means to repopulating the offending form page.
I've often heard the mantra, separate code from HTML, but it seems
ridiculous at times to include tiny HTML snippets that can easily be echoed
out, or stored in a variable. Smarty goes to the extreme in separating code
from HTML, but looking at their templating system, I wonder what's the
point? Is it the end of the world if you've got a few choice if, then, else
statements in your HTML templates?
I'm thinking of creating a bunch of include files based on request type in
my CMS Admin Center; e.g. include classes/admin/news/add.php, where add,
update, or delete is the request type. This cleans up my PHP processing
pages quite a bit (don't have all the if add, do X, elseif update, do Y,
etc. logic to comb through).
Last thing to do is write up a generic form builder class to assemble my
form pages, but that may be more work than necessary -- K-rist, webwork is
messy business ;--)
Clues, Opinions, etc. are welcome.
TIA,
--Noah
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[PHP] FTP
Hi, When I send files via FTP, the file size is limited to the php.ini max upload value? Thank you!
Re: [PHP] Re: Separate PHP Code From HTML || Pros Cons
On 10/7/06, sit1way [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. This presents problems in that any updates I make to the CMS only affect the site I'm working on. So, while working on one site I may make changes to the CMS, changes that improve the app., but other older sites do not get updated -- it's OK now, but things are getting sloppy ;--) I would dearly love to have a base CMS repository that all sites would draw on, extending the base CMS in the event that a particular client has need of customization. Some combo of Linux and Apache would do the trick; e.g. PHP requests for any of my sites would point to say, /home/cms/includes/ Are you using a version control system? Using one and, maybe, reviewing your architeture for code re-use might help in this matter, I think Now, the other issue I'd like to address is separating PHP code logic from site HTML. (...) I've often heard the mantra, separate code from HTML, but it seems ridiculous at times to include tiny HTML snippets that can easily be echoed out, or stored in a variable. Smarty goes to the extreme in separating code from HTML, but looking at their templating system, I wonder what's the point? Is it the end of the world if you've got a few choice if, then, else statements in your HTML templates? Is of my understading that this mantra is about intention in the code. We have a framework written in PHP that also uses PHP as template language. I mean, we have source files that define components, where we use PHP to process the data normally (declaring classes, using DB, etc), but there are also snippet files were we have HTML + PHP. The special case here is that the snippet files have a couple of arrays with data (created and offered by the components) available and their only occupation is to process output: no DB access, no class declaration, no file inclusion, no socket connectionall they have to do is render HTML (or whatever) with the data they received. The most complex things we have in snippet files are small functions where recursions help displaying some widgets. Everything else are loops, decision strucutres and lots of print/echo. Simple source files, in the end. Thiago Silva
Re: [PHP] FTP
Hi Martins, Of course. You can alter it you want. I remember that file size limit devided into two type: 1) local access 2) remote access file size limit only limit remote access because I can upload file from local more than limit. Good luck!! Brad On 10/8/06, Raphael Martins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When I send files via FTP, the file size is limited to the php.ini max upload value? Thank you!
Re: [PHP] Re: Separate PHP Code From HTML || Pros Cons
I dont think its so bad. What I do is keep the PHP and HTML seperate, but in the same file: php on top, html in a here document at the bottom. I COULD go one step farther and have the HTML in a seperate file, but I just dont see the point. td On 10/7/06, Thiago Silva [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 10/7/06, sit1way [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey all. This presents problems in that any updates I make to the CMS only affect the site I'm working on. So, while working on one site I may make changes to the CMS, changes that improve the app., but other older sites do not get updated -- it's OK now, but things are getting sloppy ;--) I would dearly love to have a base CMS repository that all sites would draw on, extending the base CMS in the event that a particular client has need of customization. Some combo of Linux and Apache would do the trick; e.g. PHP requests for any of my sites would point to say, /home/cms/includes/ Are you using a version control system? Using one and, maybe, reviewing your architeture for code re-use might help in this matter, I think Now, the other issue I'd like to address is separating PHP code logic from site HTML. (...) I've often heard the mantra, separate code from HTML, but it seems ridiculous at times to include tiny HTML snippets that can easily be echoed out, or stored in a variable. Smarty goes to the extreme in separating code from HTML, but looking at their templating system, I wonder what's the point? Is it the end of the world if you've got a few choice if, then, else statements in your HTML templates? Is of my understading that this mantra is about intention in the code. We have a framework written in PHP that also uses PHP as template language. I mean, we have source files that define components, where we use PHP to process the data normally (declaring classes, using DB, etc), but there are also snippet files were we have HTML + PHP. The special case here is that the snippet files have a couple of arrays with data (created and offered by the components) available and their only occupation is to process output: no DB access, no class declaration, no file inclusion, no socket connectionall they have to do is render HTML (or whatever) with the data they received. The most complex things we have in snippet files are small functions where recursions help displaying some widgets. Everything else are loops, decision strucutres and lots of print/echo. Simple source files, in the end. Thiago Silva -- Publish technical articles @ skilledwords.com and get 100% of the ad-revenue! http://www.skilledwords.com
[PHP] Re: set cookie with non-english
On Tue, 3 Oct 2006 01:15:59 +0300, Ahmad Al-Twaijiry wrote:
Hi everyone
in my PHP code I use the following command to set a cookie with
non-english word (UTF-8) :
@setcookie (UserName,$Check[1]);
and in my html page I get this cookie using javascript :
[Snipped]
but the result from writing the cookie using javascript is garbage, I
don't get the right word !!
The problem is that JavaScript uses UTF-16, so you
either have to store the cookie as UTF-16 or do your
own UTF-8 decoding in JavaScript.
For example, consider the string åäö, containing
the three funny characters in the Swedish language
(aring;auml;ouml;). These characters are encoded
as c3 a5 c3 a4 c3 b6 in UTF-8, and PHP stores these
in the cookie as:
%C3%A5%C3%A4%C3%B6
Example:
--
?php
setcookie ('UserName', \xc3\xa5\xc3\xa4\xc3\xb6);
// setcookie ('UserName', åäö);
header ('Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8');
?
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
titleUTF-8 flavoured cookies/title
p
script type=text/javascript
document.write(document.cookie);
/script
--
The unescape() function in JavaScript converts
these characters to the Unicode code points
00c3 00a5 00c3 00a4 00c3 00b6 which, of course,
is not what you want.
Example:
--
?php
setcookie ('UserName', \xc3\xa5\xc3\xa4\xc3\xb6);
// setcookie ('UserName', åäö);
header ('Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8');
?
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
titleUTF-8 flavoured cookies/title
p
script type=text/javascript
var s = unescape(document.cookie);
var t = ;
for (var i = 0; i s.length; i++) {
var c = s.charCodeAt(i);
t += c 128 ? String.fromCharCode(c) : c.toString(16) + ;
}
document.write(t);
/script
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While there are no doubt better ways to solve this,
you /could/ use the unescape() function to convert the
percent-encoded characters to unicode code point, and
then write your own UTF-8 decoder to do the rest.
Example:
(This is an old C function hammered into JavaScript
shape. It is likely to be a horrible implementation
in JavaScript. The error checking adds a bit of bloat.
Note that the utf_8_decode function supports the full
Unicode range, while JavaScript doesn't. )
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?php
setcookie ('UserName', \xc3\xa5\xc3\xa4\xc3\xb6);
header ('Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8');
?
!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01//EN
http://www.w3.org/TR/html4/strict.dtd;
titleUTF-8 flavoured cookies/title
p
script type=text/javascript
function utf_8_decode (sin)
{
function octet_count (c)
{
var octet_counts = [
/* c0 */ 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2,
/* d0 */ 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2, 2,
/* e0 */ 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3, 3,
/* f0 */ 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 4, 5, 5, 5, 5, 6, 6, 0, 0
];
return c 128 ? 1 :
c 192 ? 0 : octet_counts [(c255)-192];
}
var octet0_masks = [ 0x00,0x7f,0x1f,0x0f,0x07,0x03,0x01 ];
var sout = ;
var add;
for (var si = 0; si sin.length; si += add) {
var c = sin.charCodeAt(si);
add = octet_count(c);
if (si+add = sin.length) {
var u = c octet0_masks[add];
var ci;
for (ci = 1; (ci add) ((sin.charCodeAt(si+ci)0xc0) == 0x80);
ci++)
u = (u6) | (sin.charCodeAt(si+ci) 0x3f);
if (ci == add) {
sout += String.fromCharCode (u);
} else {
// Invalid UTF-8 sequence. Should probably throw() instead.
sout += \ufffd; // Replacement character.
add = 1;
}
} else {
// Invalid UTF-8 sequence. Should probably throw() instead.
sout += \ufffd; // Replacement character.
add = 1;
}
}
return sout;
}
document.write (utf_8_decode(unescape(document.cookie)));
/script
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BTW:
* I also tried the php function setrawcookie and I get the same problem
* I use META http-equiv=Content-Type content=text/html;
charset=utf-8 in my page
The META thing might be good for storing pages
on disk, but on the web you should use real HTTP
headers.
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