[PHP] trigger_error() problems
Hi, my php is 5.2.4 compiled in apache1.3.37 as module I have some trouble with trigger_error function code ? trigger_error ('error',E_USER_ERROR); ? I get 500 error status (Internal server error) and a record in my error log. And this ? ob_flush(); trigger_error ('error',E_USER_ERROR); ? returns 200 and I have no message in my error log. is it ok ? Thanks. -- Alexander A Miroch -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [Fwd: Attachment Size and Memory limit with php and FC6 System]
Jim Lucas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Lucas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jim Lucas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: post_max_size = 10M max_execution_time = 3600 ; Maximum execution time of each script, in seconds max_input_time = 3600 ; Maximum amount of time each script may spend parsing request data memory_limit = 512M ; Maximum amount of memory a script may consume file_uploads = On upload_max_filesize = 8M But For IMP Display result : 1, Maximum Attachment Size: 2,097,152 bytes ( only 2MB ??? ) Not sure what Maximum Attachment Size is referring to. Never heard of that setting Where are you getting #1 reading from? Are you sure that isn't a preset limit in Horde? 2, Fatal error: Allowed memory size of 8388608 bytes exhausted (tried to allocate 1519127 bytes) in /home/itawm/html/horde/lib/Horde/MIME/Part.php on line 1027 ( limit 8MB ??? ) your file upload was larger then 8MB... ?? What is confusing about this? Mine is Linux FC6 System... Many thanks your help ! Edward. Hello Jim, Are you using the imp with FC6 also ? no If so, have you meet this kind of problem ? no Any more help or idea for me ? Not at this time since you didn't answer my questions about Horde. Many thanks ! Edward. it looks like PHP is doing exactly what it should be doing. I read that you tried uploading a file that was larger then the 8MB limit. That is a PHP error you showed us. How and where is the #1 error show to you? Never mind, I took 30 seconds and had Google tell me. http://www.google.com/search?q=imp+%22maximum+attachment+size%22+site%3Awiki.horde.org Check it out here http://wiki.horde.org/FAQ/Admin/Config?referrer=FAQ%2FAdmin# About two thirds the way down the page it will give you the answer the my initial question. How can I configure IMP's maximum attachment size? * man they should insert anchor tags so someone can link directly to what we are referring to It is not PHP that is setting the limit. 2MB is the default for the maximum attachment size Hello Jim, I have ever tried to set upload_max_filesize = 8MB... But it is still Maximum Attachment Size: 2,097,152 bytes Many thanks for your help ! Edward. Ok, let me explain this last time. the 8MB limit is set in php the 2MB limit is set in horde if you do not run your own server, your ISP probably set the PHP setting And the horde 2MB limit is the default attachment size I wasn't going to say it earlier, but google your friend. http://us2.php.net/manual/en/ini.core.php#ini.upload-max-filesize The default for upload_max_filesize is 2MB, so someone must have changed it at some point. And if you didn't change/set it, I'm going to guess you are using an ISP that did. Hello, Afte update the config of php, then reboot the Web Server, but horde / imp show us still 2MB limit... So, I don't understand where is the problem... Hope more any help for us... Thanks ! Edward. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [Fwd: Attachment Size and Memory limit with php and FC6 System]
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Afte update the config of php, then reboot the Web Server, but horde / imp show us still 2MB limit... So, I don't understand where is the problem... Hope more any help for us... Thanks ! Edward. The 2MB limit is a config option of Horde, NOT php Did you even read the page that I sent you for the Horde website? -- Jim Lucas Perseverance is not a long race; it is many short races one after the other Walter Elliot Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] [Fwd: Attachment Size and Memory limit with php and FC6 System]
Jim Lucas wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Afte update the config of php, then reboot the Web Server, but horde / imp show us still 2MB limit... So, I don't understand where is the problem... Hope more any help for us... Thanks ! Edward. The 2MB limit is a config option of Horde, NOT php Did you even read the page that I sent you for the Horde website? Hello Jim, I had config the php ( php.ini ) and imp/config/conf.php also... But it is still the problem... Thank ! Edward.
[PHP] php 5 soap question
I am trying to find out how to use php 5 to access a wsdl with the following structure. How do you send parameters to the service if the wsdl is like the following. - s:element name=getPayment - s:complexType - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=pi type=tns:paymentInput / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element - s:complexType name=paymentInput - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var1 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var2 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var3 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var4 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var5 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var6 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var7 type=s:string / /s:sequence /s:complexType It is similiar but I can find nothing that addresses this sort of structure and I am at a loss as how to send vars to the request using php 5. I have looked for several days and cannot figure this out. I didn't know if there was a page you could direct me to. Mike Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Installation of pear
Dear All, Mine is FC6... Just download the pear from http://download.pear.php.net/package/PEAR-1.6.2.tgz So how to install the pear 1.6.2 with the system ? Thank for your help ! Edward. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: [Fedora] [PHP] Installation of pear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Mine is FC6... Just download the pear from http://download.pear.php.net/package/PEAR-1.6.2.tgz So how to install the pear 1.6.2 with the system ? Read the installation documentation that comes with it. -- W | It's not a bug - it's an undocumented feature. + Ashley M. Kirchner mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] . 303.442.6410 x130 IT Director / SysAdmin / Websmith . 800.441.3873 x130 Photo Craft Imaging . 3550 Arapahoe Ave. #6 http://www.pcraft.com . . .. Boulder, CO 80303, U.S.A. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Installation of pear
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Dear All, Mine is FC6... Just download the pear from http://download.pear.php.net/package/PEAR-1.6.2.tgz So how to install the pear 1.6.2 with the system ? Thank for your help ! Edward. yum install php-pear -- Jim Lucas Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: languages and PHP
At 2:01 PM -0500 9/27/07, Edward Vermillion wrote: So back to my original question, what breaks if you're *expecting* UTF-8 and you don't *get* UTF-8? Ed Isn't UTF-8 the big fish here? Sure there' UTF-16 and larger, but everything else is a subset of UTF-8, is it not? So, what's the problem if you get a character defined by ISO -- it's still within the UTF-8 super-group, right? The only problem I see here is IF the user has the char set to display the glyph correctly -- OR am I off on something else that you guys aren't even discussing? Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] counting with leading zeros
At 8:30 PM -0400 9/27/07, brian wrote: I wasn't bitching! And i *thought* that my numerous attempts at explaining such would have been enough. Obviously not, but wtf can you do with people who seem to want only to stir up shit? It sure sounded like you were bitching. And, your off-list fuck you, too, asswipe to me certainly seems to support that -- don't you think? Look, there's nothing you can say to me that hasn't been said before (some of it deserving), so my advice is for you to refrain from such conduct and at least try to look professional. That way you'll hide your ignorance a little longer -- it's always worked for me. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Sessions vs MySQL
Alberto García Gómez wrote: I'm seeking for some class to work with sessions against a mysql DB, please examples are welcome. http://php.stut.net/104-mysql_sessions.html -Stut -- http://stut.net/ -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] UPS TradeAbility / SOAP / PHP5
Does anyone have any experience with UPS's TradeAbility platform and implementing it in PHP? The test WSDL file is located at https://wwwcie.ups.com/webservices/LandedCost.wsdl Can anyone take a look at this and give me some example code to perform a query / receive a response? Thanks!
[PHP] Sessions vs MySQL
I'm seeking for some class to work with sessions against a mysql DB, please examples are welcome. Este correo ha sido enviado desde el Politécnico de Informática Carlos Marx de Matanzas. La gran batalla se librará en el campo de las ideas -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: languages and PHP
On Sep 28, 2007, at 11:34 AM, tedd wrote: At 2:01 PM -0500 9/27/07, Edward Vermillion wrote: So back to my original question, what breaks if you're *expecting* UTF-8 and you don't *get* UTF-8? Ed Isn't UTF-8 the big fish here? Sure there' UTF-16 and larger, but everything else is a subset of UTF-8, is it not? So, what's the problem if you get a character defined by ISO -- it's still within the UTF-8 super-group, right? The only problem I see here is IF the user has the char set to display the glyph correctly -- OR am I off on something else that you guys aren't even discussing? Probably very relevant to the original question, but... My question was more mental prodding than anything else. The OP had a function to convert incoming text into UTF-8 before they did anything with it. A couple of folks said that was unnecessary, if you set your form to UTF-8 your incoming data will be in UTF-8 already. I was just trying to make the point that if you expect your incoming data to be in a certain state in your code you should make sure that it is in that state before you act on it, since you can't guarantee it's source. Checking to make sure the incoming data is in it's expected state is not a waste of time (or unnecessary, or whatever term of derision they picked) but is actually good coding practice. I pretty much gave up on the thread when I got the reply along the lines of if it breaks something it's their problem, not mine. Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question
have you used soap ui http://www.soapui.org/ before? its a great tool for testing interaction w/ web services before you implement a client layer in your own code because it shows sent and received xml. -nathan On 9/28/07, Hurst, Michael S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find out how to use php 5 to access a wsdl with the following structure. How do you send parameters to the service if the wsdl is like the following. - s:element name=getPayment - s:complexType - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=pi type=tns:paymentInput / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element - s:complexType name=paymentInput - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var1 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var2 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var3 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var4 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var5 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var6 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var7 type=s:string / /s:sequence /s:complexType It is similiar but I can find nothing that addresses this sort of structure and I am at a loss as how to send vars to the request using php 5. I have looked for several days and cannot figure this out. I didn't know if there was a page you could direct me to. Mike Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question
can you post the url of the wsdl ? -nathan On 9/28/07, Hurst, Michael S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find out how to use php 5 to access a wsdl with the following structure. How do you send parameters to the service if the wsdl is like the following. - s:element name=getPayment - s:complexType - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=pi type=tns:paymentInput / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element - s:complexType name=paymentInput - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var1 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var2 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var3 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var4 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var5 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var6 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var7 type=s:string / /s:sequence /s:complexType It is similiar but I can find nothing that addresses this sort of structure and I am at a loss as how to send vars to the request using php 5. I have looked for several days and cannot figure this out. I didn't know if there was a page you could direct me to. Mike Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] Re: languages and PHP
Edward Vermillion wrote: I pretty much gave up on the thread when I got the reply along the lines of if it breaks something it's their problem, not mine. Ed, your question was a good one, but so was my answer. In my case, I don't cater to an open community, but to a closed one. If you're not authenticated, you're not getting anywhere to start with. If you somehow manage to bypass that, and attempt to submit data I don't expect, my priority is the survival of my application, nothing else. /Per Jessen, Zürich -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: languages and PHP
On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Per Jessen wrote: Edward Vermillion wrote: I pretty much gave up on the thread when I got the reply along the lines of if it breaks something it's their problem, not mine. Ed, your question was a good one, but so was my answer. In my case, I don't cater to an open community, but to a closed one. If you're not authenticated, you're not getting anywhere to start with. If you somehow manage to bypass that, and attempt to submit data I don't expect, my priority is the survival of my application, nothing else. But that was my point. Your way, your app may disintegrate at some uncontrolled point. At least if your checking/validating your input then you can take control of the situation and insure the survival of your application. Otherwise who knows where it will break and what it will mean when it does. And just because the community is closed, don't drop your guard on basic security practices. You don't control what comes into your site, you can only react to it. Ed -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: languages and PHP
Edward Vermillion wrote: On Sep 28, 2007, at 1:05 PM, Per Jessen wrote: Ed, your question was a good one, but so was my answer. In my case, I don't cater to an open community, but to a closed one. If you're not authenticated, you're not getting anywhere to start with. If you somehow manage to bypass that, and attempt to submit data I don't expect, my priority is the survival of my application, nothing else. But that was my point. Your way, your app may disintegrate at some uncontrolled point. As long as it is only the app, it's not a real problem. If it affects apache, it's a different issue. If the app throws a couple of unexpected exceptions or something, no big deal. At least if your checking/validating your input then you can take control of the situation and insure the survival of your application. Otherwise who knows where it will break and what it will mean when it does. I agree, but to check for unwanted charactersets and do conversions and what have you, is way overkill IMOH. And just because the community is closed, don't drop your guard on basic security practices. You don't control what comes into your site, you can only react to it. I agree - like I said, authentication is required. /Per -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] php 5 soap question
I would have to get approval before I can do that. I can probably post a portion of the wsdl but not sure that it would be something that is wanted to be made public in its current form. I will need to find out. Mike From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:27 PM To: Hurst, Michael S. Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question can you post the url of the wsdl ? -nathan On 9/28/07, Hurst, Michael S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find out how to use php 5 to access a wsdl with the following structure. How do you send parameters to the service if the wsdl is like the following. - s:element name=getPayment - s:complexType - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=pi type=tns:paymentInput / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element - s:complexType name=paymentInput - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var1 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var2 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var3 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var4 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var5 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var6 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var7 type=s:string / /s:sequence /s:complexType It is similiar but I can find nothing that addresses this sort of structure and I am at a loss as how to send vars to the request using php 5. I have looked for several days and cannot figure this out. I didn't know if there was a page you could direct me to. Mike Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question
__getTypes() and __getFunctions() are your friends. They tell you alot about the functions and structure of parameters and return types. Rob Hurst, Michael S. wrote: I would have to get approval before I can do that. I can probably post a portion of the wsdl but not sure that it would be something that is wanted to be made public in its current form. I will need to find out. Mike From: Nathan Nobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 28, 2007 2:27 PM To: Hurst, Michael S. Cc: php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question can you post the url of the wsdl ? -nathan On 9/28/07, Hurst, Michael S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find out how to use php 5 to access a wsdl with the following structure. How do you send parameters to the service if the wsdl is like the following. - s:element name=getPayment - s:complexType - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=pi type=tns:paymentInput / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element - s:complexType name=paymentInput - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var1 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var2 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var3 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var4 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var5 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var6 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var7 type=s:string / /s:sequence /s:complexType It is similiar but I can find nothing that addresses this sort of structure and I am at a loss as how to send vars to the request using php 5. I have looked for several days and cannot figure this out. I didn't know if there was a page you could direct me to. Mike Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] How can I configure some values in iis6 like php_admin_value in httpd.conf ?
I use iis6, php5.2 on windows2003 How can I configure some values in iis6 like php_admin_value in httpd.conf ? Also, What sort of security tool can I use in iis6 like mod_security ? Thanks
Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question
i recommend playing around w/ soap ui then; its helped me understand how to structure many requests using SoapClient and there is no doubt it has saved me a great deal of time. once you see the request xml that soap ui generates you can understand how to structure a call to the web service using SoapClient. -nathan On 9/28/07, Hurst, Michael S. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would have to get approval before I can do that. I can probably post a portion of the wsdl but not sure that it would be something that is wanted to be made public in its current form. I will need to find out. Mike *From:* Nathan Nobbe [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] *Sent:* Friday, September 28, 2007 2:27 PM *To:* Hurst, Michael S. *Cc:* php-general@lists.php.net *Subject:* Re: [PHP] php 5 soap question can you post the url of the wsdl ? -nathan On 9/28/07, *Hurst, Michael S.* [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am trying to find out how to use php 5 to access a wsdl with the following structure. How do you send parameters to the service if the wsdl is like the following. - s:element name=getPayment - s:complexType - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=pi type=tns:paymentInput / /s:sequence /s:complexType /s:element - s:complexType name=paymentInput - s:sequence s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var1 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var2 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var3 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var4 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var5 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var6 type=s:string / s:element minOccurs=0 maxOccurs=1 name=var7 type=s:string / /s:sequence /s:complexType It is similiar but I can find nothing that addresses this sort of structure and I am at a loss as how to send vars to the request using php 5. I have looked for several days and cannot figure this out. I didn't know if there was a page you could direct me to. Mike Hurst [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[PHP] Session problem
Hi, I have two problems with sessions. Firstly, even though session limit is set on default value on server, which is about 5 hours, if I don't take any action for about 15 mins I am thrown out and I have to log in again. Are there any addition functions which I can use in order to explicitly specify session lifetime? Secondly, after a certain period of time, while I am logged in, page just freezes and it indicates that it is trying to load. Page stays frozen all the time. At that moment, the only solution is to clear private data in the browser. After that, I am logged out and I can regulary log in and procede to work normally. It doesn't happend evry time I log in, but once in while. I have only used functions such as session_start() and session_destroy. Thanks for your help, Dušan - - made by Dusan
Re: [PHP] Session problem
Dušan Novaković wrote: Hi, I have two problems with sessions. Firstly, even though session limit is set on default value on server, which is about 5 hours, if I don't take any action for about 15 mins I am thrown out and I have to log in again. Are there any addition functions which I can use in order to explicitly specify session lifetime? Secondly, after a certain period of time, while I am logged in, page just freezes and it indicates that it is trying to load. Page stays frozen all the time. At that moment, the only solution is to clear private data in the browser. After that, I am logged out and I can regulary log in and procede to work normally. It doesn't happend evry time I log in, but once in while. I have only used functions such as session_start() and session_destroy. Thanks for your help, Dušan - - made by Dusan sounds like a problem with the hosting provider. Is this a single server that you have your web site on, or is it a farm of servers? -- Jim Lucas Some men are born to greatness, some achieve greatness, and some have greatness thrust upon them. Twelfth Night, Act II, Scene V by William Shakespeare -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
RE: [PHP] counting with leading zeros
Can I please interject and say that I vastly respect Tedd(ddd) and Rob(bb?) and their opinions Dsn -- Dan Parry Senior Developer Virtua Webtech Ltd Company Number: 5078356 Vat Number: 827044536 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.virtuawebtech.co.uk 01745 354924 -Original Message- From: tedd [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: 28 September 2007 17:20 To: brian; php-general@lists.php.net Subject: Re: [PHP] counting with leading zeros At 8:30 PM -0400 9/27/07, brian wrote: I wasn't bitching! And i *thought* that my numerous attempts at explaining such would have been enough. Obviously not, but wtf can you do with people who seem to want only to stir up shit? It sure sounded like you were bitching. And, your off-list fuck you, too, asswipe to me certainly seems to support that -- don't you think? Look, there's nothing you can say to me that hasn't been said before (some of it deserving), so my advice is for you to refrain from such conduct and at least try to look professional. That way you'll hide your ignorance a little longer -- it's always worked for me. Cheers, tedd -- --- http://sperling.com http://ancientstones.com http://earthstones.com -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: 27/09/2007 17:00 -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php