Re: [PHP] Re: Good and free encoder for PHP5
Oh yeah but probably the problem is that it wasn't updated in order to work with PHP 5. Or does it does? Teddy - Original Message - From: Manuel Lemos [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 15, 2004 1:16 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: Good and free encoder for PHP5 Hello, Mário gamito said the following on 12/14/2004 08:51 AM: Does anyone around here knows a *good* and *free* encoder for PHP5 ? I used to run Turck, but it seems that somehow it has been discontinued. (At least, the last release occured about a year ago). Did it stop working? My Turck copy still works. ;-) -- -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Google search indexing
Yes Google index the entire url including the HTTP_QUERY_STRING (the part after the question mark). You will see many warnings in old tutorials telling that the search enginnes don't index the entire url, but I don't think it is the case anymore. However, if you want to avoid this, or to just create URLS more simple to remember, use the Apache module mod_rewrite. This way, you can let the server automaticly trranslate an url like http://www.site.com/program/var1/var2/var3 in a URl like http://www.site.com/program?v1=var1v2=var2v3=var3 ...or any other translations. The first link will be easier to remember and the search engines will see it as a static web page. The search engines won't submit any form, so they are not parsed at all. Use common links if you want them to be indexed. Teddy - Original Message - From: Jason FB [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 14, 2004 8:04 PM Subject: [PHP] Google search indexing Follow up question: At 4:39 PM + 12/14/04, Richard Davey wrote: sp does anybody know how does google (and other search engines) index websites sp implemented in PHP + MySQL? For instance, sites which use PHP based CMS sp (Content Management Systems)? It doesn't. It indexes the HTML that they output. As far as Google is concerned you could have a thousand trained monkies typing like mad for your CMS, it still only cares about the output - the HTML. sp Someone told us google spiders do call for the pages so they only see the sp resulting HTML code. Is that right? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] installing php 5.02 and Apache 2
Hi all, I have installed Apache 2 under Fedora Core 2 and now I would like to install PHP 5.02 as a server module. I have downloaded and unpacked PHP 5.02, and I think that I need to run ./configure now but I don't know which parameters I need to add. I have added --prefix=dir --with-mysql=dir --with-curl But I want to add many other modules I might need. Do I need to specify the entire list of modules in the command line? Or how can I create and choose a config file? And please tell me what option do I need to install the Apache 2 module. I have seen some parameters in the ./configure --help instructions for installing the module for Apache 2, but I saw that that module is only experimental. Isn't there a working module for PHP 5.02 and Apache 2? And do you know where the Apache 2 module is put after installing php? (in order to specify it in httpd.conf). Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Compiling a php program
Hi all, Does anyone know a free php compiler that can create a single .exe program with all the necessary libraries included in it? I don't want that .exe file to require other .dll files. I have tried a compiler named PriadoBlender or something like that, but it has a bad interface which is not accessible for the blind, I was able to use the program by editing the xml configuration file and inserting there the input data, but it created a .exe file and in the destination dir it put many other .dll files... Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Messengers libraries?
Hi all, Does anyone know if there are free php libraries for creating MSN or Yahoo or Skype or AOL Messenger clients? Thanks. Teddy Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Compiling a php program
Thanks. I found encPHP very easy to use. Now, I have another question. I would like to be able to encrypt the PHP code for distributing to others. Is there a method of encrypting the code before creating a binary executable from it? I have seen that EncPHP just unpacks its content into a temp directory and run the php program from that location, so the php code can be seen. Thanks. Teddy - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Octavian Rasnita' [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 3:13 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Compiling a php program I've used EncPHP (http://sourceforge.net/projects/encphp/) a long while ago just to see how it'd work. It worked just fine - but the binaries get very large, very fast. (as one would expect). I also came across BinaryPHP (http://sourceforge.net/projects/binaryphp/) while searching for EncPHP (I had forgotten the name) and it might be worth checking out. Might get some smaller binaries if you're that serious about it. Either way - good luck. Though I find that if you want to write a binary that other languages that compile directly to them are better solutions. -M -Original Message- From: Octavian Rasnita [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 30, 2004 8:01 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [PHP] Compiling a php program Hi all, Does anyone know a free php compiler that can create a single .exe program with all the necessary libraries included in it? I don't want that .exe file to require other .dll files. I have tried a compiler named PriadoBlender or something like that, but it has a bad interface which is not accessible for the blind, I was able to use the program by editing the xml configuration file and inserting there the input data, but it created a .exe file and in the destination dir it put many other .dll files... Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Is this a bug in PHP 4.3.4?
Hi all,
I use the following program:
?php
print_form();
print_quotes ();
function print_form () {
ob_start();
output_add_rewrite_var(sort, sorting);
echo EOF
form
...
/form
EOF;
ob_flush();
}
function print_quotes () {
output_reset_rewrite_vars();
echo EOF
table
...
/table
EOF;
}
?
The result printed is:
Content-type: text/html
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.4
forminput type=hidden name=sort value=sorting /
...
/table
...
/table
Well, do you have any idea why PHP prints:
/table
...instead of:
/formtable
I have tried this program under Fedora Core 2 in command line mode and on an
Apache web server with the same results.
Do you have suggestions for making this program work and why does this
happen?
Thank you.
Teddy
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Re: [PHP] Is this a bug in PHP 4.3.4?
Thank you. I will try that solution if it works, but the question still
remains...
Is PHP so buggy? The 'here document' should work without a problem in PHP
also.
My code works fine with PHP 5 (fortunately) under Windows, but it doesn't
work with PHP 4.3.4 under Linux.
I think I need to upgrade php under Linux also...
Teddy
- Original Message -
From: Raditha Dissanayake [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, November 29, 2004 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Is this a bug in PHP 4.3.4?
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi all,
I use the following program:
function print_quotes () {
output_reset_rewrite_vars();
echo EOF
table
...
/table
EOF;
}
I have tried this program under Fedora Core 2 in command line mode and on
an
Apache web server with the same results.
Do you have suggestions for making this program work and why does this
happen?
I think the problem is with your 'here document' this is the traditional
way of doing things in perl but in php you could 'go back into HTML. by
using the '?' sequence. Thus your program might become
function print_quotes () {
output_reset_rewrite_vars();
?
table
...
/table
?
}
There are pros and cons of both approach but the bit of code i have
given will produce the expected result.
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[PHP] Range: bytes=x-y
Hi all, Does anyone know why some servers don't return a partial content when I use the HTTP header: Range: bytes=100-200 It should return the content of the page starting from byte 100 until the byte 200, but it still returns the whole page. Does this happen when the page is sent unbuffered? Or what else could be? And can I do something to force those servers to send just a part of the page? Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] automatic responder
You just need to get the HTTP_ACCEPT_LANGUAGE environment variable and see the order of the prefered languages. After that, you see if you have a translation for the first language, if the site doesn't have it, try for the next language, and so on. Teddy - Original Message - From: Alessandro Rosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 3:14 PM Subject: [PHP] automatic responder Thank you for all responses about this topic. I would also solve a more practical doubt finally: if I use for example the PHP code 'POP3class', as suggested by Manuel Lemos, it's implicitly meant that it should run periodically on a web-server (for example, under a timer of a given number of seconds), don't you? Example: check pop3 mailbox every 5 secs by php code and then perform all the required actions. Alessandro Rosa -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Bad PHP error
Hi all,
I have tried the following script:
$val = 100;
if (is_int($val)) {
echo $val;
}
else {
echo $val is not an integer\n;
}
The answer is:
100 is not an integer.
Why does this happen? I use PHP 5.
Isn't PHP able to work with values like 10 billion?
Do I need to use a certain special class for dealing with big numbers? How
can I use that class?
Thank you.
Teddy
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Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error
Ok, I understand. But what can I do if I want to print big numbers like 123
billion? (but real numbers, not those written with the E letter in them?
Is this possible with PHP or I need to do it with another language?
Thank you.
Teddy
From: M. Sokolewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi all,
I have tried the following script:
$val = 100;
if (is_int($val)) {
echo $val;
}
else {
echo $val is not an integer\n;
}
The answer is:
100 is not an integer.
Why does this happen? I use PHP 5.
Isn't PHP able to work with values like 10 billion?
Do I need to use a certain special class for dealing with big numbers? How
can I use that class?
Thank you.
Teddy
reply it's treated as a double since integers have a max value of (-2e32
+1 up to) 2e32-1, which is 4,294,967,296 (4 billion and some). However,
you shouldn't really see any difference in working, it's just treated as
a double inside (a double float, that is). Which means it'll be
written like 1.0e10 internally
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Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error
Well, that big number is not converted as a string and printed this way, or
I am missing something.
Here is an example:
?php
$var = 1;
//Here I have also tried inserting $var = (string) $var;
echo $var;
?
This prints:
1E+012
and... not 1 as it should.
I have first tried just echo $var, but I thought that maybe if I put it
between quotes, it will be printed right, but...
Thank you.
Teddy
- Original Message -
From: M. Sokolewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, November 27, 2004 11:08 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error
Marek Kilimajer wrote:
This would be for unsigned integers. PHP knows only signed integers,
however. So the limit is 2147483648
Good point :)
When you're outputting it, PHP will convert it back to a string, using
the normal integer representation (which is stored aswell). So that
should be fine ;)
- Tul
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Ok, I understand. But what can I do if I want to print big numbers like
123
billion? (but real numbers, not those written with the E letter in them?
Is this possible with PHP or I need to do it with another language?
Thank you.
Teddy
From: M. Sokolewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi all,
I have tried the following script:
$val = 100;
if (is_int($val)) {
echo $val;
}
else {
echo $val is not an integer\n;
}
The answer is:
100 is not an integer.
Why does this happen? I use PHP 5.
Isn't PHP able to work with values like 10 billion?
Do I need to use a certain special class for dealing with big numbers? How
can I use that class?
Thank you.
Teddy
reply it's treated as a double since integers have a max value of (-2e32
+1 up to) 2e32-1, which is 4,294,967,296 (4 billion and some). However,
you shouldn't really see any difference in working, it's just treated as
a double inside (a double float, that is). Which means it'll be
written like 1.0e10 internally
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Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error
Thank you. It seems that finally I will need to divide the numbers with 100, make the calculations that way, and specify that the numbers are in millions, because I can't find any solution with PHP. bcmath functions are not good, because they need a string to work for, and not a number, and if I want to make some calculations, the numbers will be converted to numbers and... Thanks. Teddy - Original Message - From: Marek Kilimajer [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 12:39 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error Octavian Rasnita wrote: Well, that big number is not converted as a string and printed this way, or I am missing something. Here is an example: ?php $var = 1; //Here I have also tried inserting $var = (string) $var; echo $var; ? This prints: -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error
Hi, I also use Win 2k with PHP 5 in command line mode. It is pretty strange that in an older version of Jaws it works better. Or... could I make some settings to make it work like in your case? Teddy - Original Message - From: BAO RuiXian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 1:58 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error Hello, Octavian Rasnita wrote: ?php $var = 1; //Here I have also tried inserting $var = (string) $var; echo $var; ? This prints: 1E+012 and... not 1 as it should. I tried the above example, and I got what you want, i.e. 1. My environment is Windows 2k, PHP 4.3.3 and Apache 2.0.47. Best Bao I have first tried just echo $var, but I thought that maybe if I put it between quotes, it will be printed right, but... Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error
Oh thanks, I hope I will find a good combination that migh help me finally. Teddy - Original Message - From: BAO RuiXian [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: M. Sokolewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, November 28, 2004 2:23 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: Bad PHP error Hello, M. Sokolewicz wrote: you might want to try using number_format() to change the format back to integer likeness After I changed to echo number_format($var), I got 1,000,000,000,000:) Well, actually this is not my problem. I just tested this for fun. Best -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Getting the contents of a file
Hi all, I am trying to use the file() function, but without success. Here is the code: $url = http://www.rasd.ro/Quotes/11-24-2004.txt; $file = file($url); And this is the error: PHP Parse error: syntax error, unexpected T_VARIABLE in [FILE] on line 13 The line 13 contains: $file = file($url); I get the content of $url in a more complex way, so I cannot put the url to that file directly in the function file(). Why it is not possible to use a var in file()? Thanks. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Simple coding question
Hi all,
Please tell me which is the shortest method for writing the following code:
$var = $_GET['var'] || 'value';
I want the program to put the value value in the variable $var if the
array element 'var' is not defined or in case it is 0 and I would like to
avoid using that long style with if (..) {...} else {...}...
Thank you.
Teddy
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[PHP] converting a number
Hi all, I have a number like 1.0122E9 and I want to convert it into a real number in a common notation and not in that scientific one (with E). I have seen that very long numbers are always converted automaticly to that notation and I need to insert that number in a MySQL database and in that case MySQL won't calculate well. Please tell me how to do that in PHP or in MySQL.. Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] converting a number
Not exactly. And this query gives me an error. Thank you. Teddy - Original Message - From: Warren Vail [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 11:24 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] converting a number I have a number like 1.0122E9 and I want to convert it into a real number in a common notation and not in that scientific one (with E). I have seen that very long numbers are always converted automaticly to that notation and I need to insert that number in a MySQL database and in that case MySQL won't calculate well. Please tell me how to do that in PHP or in MySQL.. Is this what you were thinking of? $query = insert table(floatcol) values(.sprintf(%2.4f,$yourno).) ; -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Supremacy...
What do you mean by perl discontinued? Perl 5 is continuu updated and this year I have seen perl 5.8.1, 5.8.3, 5.8.4, 5.8.5 is almost done. Perl 6 is planned to run in a precompiled code (like Java programs) in an environment that will also be able to run programs created in other programming languages like Python... For the programs that output web pages PHP is prefered even it is not so complex like perl for the moment, because PHP is especially created for this job. I have seen a web page in which Yahoo explained why they have chosen PHP as their programming language for their dynamic web pages and not ASP, java or C or perl. (But they say that they also use perl programs for their backend tasks). (and not ASP or Cold Fusion or other proprietary languages) Teddy - Original Message - From: Mike [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: 'Lista de Php-General' [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, November 18, 2004 2:05 AM Subject: RE: [PHP] PHP Supremacy... I was really sad to see Perl discontinued so many years ago... damned open source community not taking care of it's own. -Original Message- From: Pedro Irán Méndez Pérez [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, November 17, 2004 5:18 PM To: Lista de Php-General Subject: [PHP] PHP Supremacy... Hello my friends, I need your help in convince to my boss in adopt php for -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Loading an extension
Hi all, I want to add an extension (CURL, mysql) to a php program without specifying it in php.ini (because on some servers I might not have the right to modify that configuration file). I have tried using the dl() function, but here is an error I get on the browser when doing this: Warning: dl() [ function.dl]: Not supported in multithreaded Web servers - use extension=ext/php_mysql.dll in your php.ini in D:\broker\html\cotatii.php on line 6 Fatal error: Call to undefined function mysql_connect() in D:\broker\html\cotatii.php on line 8 Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Converting to integer
Hi all, I get some values from a MySQL table and some of them are in the format 1000.0, 234.0, etc. I want those values converted as 1000, 234, and so on, but the other string values need to remain the same. I have tried using the function is_numeric to test which of the values returned from MySQL are numbers, but none of them appear to be a number, so I cannot convert them. Thank you for any tips. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Simple XML
Hi all, Does anyone know if PHP has a library for getting the content of an XML file like XML::Simple in perl? In that perl library I can get the whole content of an XML file in a reference to an array of arrays of arrays... with only 3 lines of code. Is there such a simple method in PHP? Thank you much. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] MySQL
Hi all, Please tell me how to send a null string to be inserted in a MySQL database. If I do something like: $string = null; mysql_query(insert ignore into table(field) values($string)); It gives me an error. In fact, I have multiple fields to insert, and the error just tell me that was an error at ... and prints the variables I want to imput and I don't know what could be the problem. Do I need to addslashes(), or what else? Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Passing regexp substrings to a function
Hi,
In perl, you can do something like:
$string =~ s/---piece of text that contains a certain (VALUE) in
it---/function($1)/gse;
This expression replaces its first part with the result of the function
function called with the parameter VALUE.
Is this what you want?
Maybe you can do something like that using perl regular expressions in
PHP...
Teddy
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From: Ville Mattila [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Monday, October 25, 2004 2:33 PM
Subject: [PHP] Passing regexp substrings to a function
Hi there,
I have a few e-mail templates in a file that should be parsed. A
template can include also some module codes that should be replaced by
a return value of a certain function. For example, if the template
include a text {ProductInfo:1032}, the value 1032 would be passed as
an argument to a function mdlProductInfo() and the whole string would be
replaced by the return value of the function.
One possible way is to loop the string like this:
while(eregi({([a-z])(:[a-z0-9])+}, $template, $regs)) {
list($whole, $function, $valuestring) = $regs;
$values = explode(:, substr($valuestring, 1));
unset($retval);
eval($retval = mdl.$function.(.join(,, $values).););
$template = str_replace($whole, $retval, $template);
}
Any other ideas on this?
Ville
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Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
Michael Sims wrote: Octavian Rasnita wrote: No, there is no way for customizing the headers Outlook Express use to put in the email messages. I wish there was, because I don't like them also... Although I haven't used it personally, OE-QuoteFix may help: http://home.in.tum.de/~jain/software/oe-quotefix/ I do have experience with Outlook-QuoteFix by the same author and it works well. Oh cool! I have installed and now the format of the message looks great! Thanks for telling me about that program. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
No, there is no way for customizing the headers Outlook Express use to put in the email messages. I wish there was, because I don't like them also... Teddy - Original Message - From: - Edwin - [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 2:51 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette Hi, On Mon, 20 Sep 2004 04:01:47 +0300 Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My email client (Outlook Express) puts a lot of information at the top of the message automaticly, like: The signature, --- original message --- The From line - The to line - The date line - The subject line. There should be a way to customize that, no? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
- Original Message - From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 7:06 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette Octavian Rasnita wrote: snip In other words it's easier for you to reach your Delete key when you top post than when you bottom post ??? -- Ok, I have bottom posted, and have trimmed the end of the message. But this was a little text only, while the header of this message is still there, and it is bigger. Well, I said that is harder to delete the head of the message and then go to the end and delete the tail also. That's why is easier to trim the message when top posting. It would be easier for everyone if everyone would use Outlook Express and not many other email clients that use a different style of headers they put in the message, or that put the cursor in other positions by default. But most users use Outlook Express as the email client, and not other programs... And this not only because it is included by default in Windows, but because for some features it is the best program, like the accessibilitty for the blind for example. Most use Outlook or Outlook Express? I think you'd be hard pressed to find _most_ users of a mailing list which deals with something in the Open Source Community (like php) using a Microsoft mailer. Most of the newbies, probably; but the people who are on this list, day in and day out, are more than likely not...even if they are using a Microsoft OS. However, the, my mail client puts the cursor at the top is still a pretty weak reason to top post. Why is it a pretty weak reason? I found it a very big one. You don't know how easy is to use an email client when you can't read but just listen to a robotic voice made by the computer. ...or you probably don't care. Well, in that case, why should I care that you don't like top posting? See, I have bottom posted this time. So? The trimmed part at the end of the message is much smaller than the one from the top of the message, so bottom posting doesn't help trimming the message as you said. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
Hi, I have a very strong reason for top posting and a very strong one for not agreeing too much bottom posting at all, and this is the fact that I am blind and if I need to read a bottom post, I need to read again and again the whole original message, even though most of the time I remember what was it about, and I don't like to lose so much time to read it again so many times. I have read somewhere a Netiquette rule that advice top posting (I don't remember where, but could be on W3C site...) and the reasons for that rule were that: 1. Most of the times, the members of the list remember the subject of the original message, and those who don't remember it, can make that effort for scrolling down, because the most important part is not the original message, but the answer. 2. People with dissabiliteies, that access the computer reading line by line, will have to skip many rows sometimes in order to reach to the important part of the message, and very often that important part have just a single line, or two lines, and they might skip them if they read the text faster. 3. Top posting is much easier to be done for most of the members of a list, because they don't have to trim the original message very selective, but they can just hit reply, start writing, then they can press page down once or a few times, or point with the mouse, and delete from that point to the end of the original message and that's all. If bottom posting, the original message need to be trimmed for not including signatures, advertising, and other unneeded things. Well, I guess these are the reasons Microsoft made their mail clients in such a way that the text cursor appears at the top of the reply window by default, and not by mistake, and let's don't forget that most computer users use MS Windows... Even though I prefer top posting for the reasons I have told you about, I also use sometimes bottom posting, and I also use answering point by point in the original message where is the case. I use bottom posting only in short threads, in which the members might not remember about the subject of the original message, or in messages that are hard to understand without reading the original message. If I answer something like: Your problem can be solved by using the following code: ... Most of the users won't understand what problem was that answer for, because on the lists we use to talk about problems all the time. But if I answer something like: If you want to create a program for downloading and parsing a file, use the following code:... Then I think that everyone will understand what is my answer for, and they don't need to read again the original message, because they even might remember that message. So I think the top posting is preferred by users for a very good reason, but I also think that we should try to admit that other members of the list have other preferences, and try not fighting for that. Cheers. Teddy - Original Message - From: Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 5:02 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:52, Robert Cummings wrote: But definitely there's not global consensus. I really shouldn't be indulging you as it's pretty obvious you're only here for a vigorous debate (that's my euphemism for an argument - the not so nice meaning of argument). The OP asked for the pros and cons of top posting vs bottom posting. I responded with some reasons why top posting is bad. What did you come up with? -- Jason Wong - Gremlins Associates - www.gremlins.biz -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Browser caching problem.
BTW, does anyone know if there is a program or script that can listen to the stream and save it into a file? I know this can be done using a program for recording the sound, but that is not a very professional solution and it depends on the quality of the sound card, the speed of internet connection, etc. I am wondering if there is a program that can work with the mms:// protocol for getting the data, or other protocols for streaming if there are more... or if there are any specifications for making such a program. Thanks. Teddy - Original Message - From: Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, September 19, 2004 2:25 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] Browser caching problem. On Sunday 19 September 2004 07:12, Daniel Guerrier wrote: I'm using this code to dynamically retrieve windows media files and send it to the browser. I thought the cache header would prevent the file from being cached. The only problems is the .wmv file still ends up in my IE temp files folder. How can I prevent this from happening? Don't give them the file in the first place? If you're trying to prevent someone from saving the file and playing it back at a later date then I think you'll need to stream the file. Have a look on the MS site. Note that no matter what you do, if someone is determined enough they'll still be able to capture the contents. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
Hi, From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Do the words get smaller at the bottom? Having to scroll thru line after line of message doesn't deal with top vs. bottom posting...that stems from people not trimming non-releative parts out of the message. --- The rules should be made to make the reading process easier for the readers and the top posting versus bottom posting has nothing to do with the trimming of the messages. It is much easier to trim a message when top posting, just as I explained you. I have *never* seen any site dealing with mailing lists/newsgroups that suggested top posting over bottom posting. -- Keep searching. :-) Did you take a survey of list members to come to the conclusion of who remembers what? I usually remember what's going on in a thread only if I've been posting to that thread from the begininning. I, along with many other members of this list post to numerous mailing lists, but according to you, we remember the subject matter of one little thread? And if we don't, it's up to us to scroll thru the mess of top and bottom posted replies so that we can figure out what's going on, just to help someone? --- Yes, if you are not lazy. :-) I have also told that in case of a little thread, I also use to bottom post, because its subject might not be remembered by others. Everyone on this list who falls into this category, raise your hand. I'm sorry if you have a disability and all, but you're suggesting that the good of the one outweighs the good of the many. -- Do you think that I am the only one on this list that prefer top posting? I think the way people like to post on a mailing list depends on how they were used to post and that way tend to be consider the best by them. And that way depends on more things, like the email client used, and that email client depend on the operating system used, and so on. And I have seen that many people that use Unix use to like bottom posting and I don't know why... who knows, maybe the Unix email clients automaticly put the cursor at the bottom of the original message... Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
Teddy
- Original Message -
From: -{ Rene Brehmer }- [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 1:12 AM
Subject: Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
At 16:57 19-09-2004, Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi,
From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Do the words get smaller at the bottom? Having to scroll thru line
after line of message doesn't deal with top vs. bottom posting...that
stems from people not trimming non-releative parts out of the message.
---
The rules should be made to make the reading process easier for the readers
and the top posting versus bottom posting has nothing to do with the
trimming of the messages.
It is much easier to trim a message when top posting, just as I explained
you.
In other words it's easier for you to reach your Delete key when you top
post than when you bottom post ???
--
Ok, I have bottom posted, and have trimmed the end of the message. But this
was a little text only, while the header of this message is still there, and
it is bigger.
Well, I said that is harder to delete the head of the message and then go to
the end and delete the tail also.
That's why is easier to trim the message when top posting.
It would be easier for everyone if everyone would use Outlook Express and
not many other email clients that use a different style of headers they put
in the message, or that put the cursor in other positions by default.
But most users use Outlook Express as the email client, and not other
programs...
And this not only because it is included by default in Windows, but because
for some features it is the best program, like the accessibilitty for the
blind for example.
Teddy
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Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
From: Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] This is like arguing that people choose to use IE instead of Firefox. Surely the flaws of this argument are obvious. For people who bother to make a choice, Firefox is a clear winner. The same is true for formatted email. People (who care) tend to agree on a few major points and only disagree on minor details, such as line length and methods of attribution. -- I choose to use IE and I don't like Firefox because I cannot use Firefox. Fortunately I hope I will be able to use Mozilla's programs because I have seen that they also want to make it accessible for the blind, but for the moment their programs are not accessible. So I choose IE, and not just use it because I like its security flaws so much. :-) Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] List Etiquette
From: John Nichel [EMAIL PROTECTED] Easier for reading? Yes, you're right. Do you read a book from the bottom of the page up? Trimming a message is easier if you top post? That's pretty weak. Follow a top posted thread, you'll see that most top posters just leave everything in there, whereas bottom posters tend to trim the message. -- Yes, this is true, and I see that you fight more not for the bottom post, but for trimming the messages. I also don't like those who just send a message without trimming it at all, but they do that because it is more simple for them. If you don't care that's more simple for them, they might not care that you don't like that. And it is not easier to trim if I want to bottom post. My email client (Outlook Express) puts a lot of information at the top of the message automaticly, like: The signature, --- original message --- The From line - The to line - The date line - The subject line. And if I want to bottom post, I won't just need to hit control+End and start writing at the end of the message, but I will need to trim the beginning of the message and after that go and trim the end of the message also. Check the headers of this email. I'm using a Windows box right now, and my cursor was automatically at the end when I clicked reply. Again, it's laziness if one doesn't want to configure their client to put the cursor at the end, or to manually move the cursor. -- I've told you that it's not just moving the cursor, but deleting the headers the email clients put at the top also. And Outlook Express doesn't allow the configurations you have ask for. I don't like those headers it puts there at the top and I also don't like that it doesn't allow too many configuration options, but unfortunately I don't have another solution a better email client, because most of them are very hard accessible for screen readers. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] How does work shorten url services?
I don't think those sites use mod_rewrite because an URl can be anything, including: http://www.oijoij.com/eorier/eoroeir/oier/eorij.pl?terer=wer4334oijo=werooj=123# (or much more complicated urls). Those sites (because there are more) just put the urls in a database, and assign an ID to each one. Then, a program (that can be made in any language) queries the database for the given ID, and get the long URL. Then it redirects to that URL and that's all. I have made such a program in perl but it is very very simple. Teddy - Original Message - From: Ramil Sagum [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Henri Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, September 18, 2004 2:29 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] How does work shorten url services? On Sat, 18 Sep 2004 10:49:34 +0200 (CEST), Henri Marc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, The principle is that you enter your long url in their form and it gives you a shorten url like tinyurl.com/h4599 I was wondering how it works. I think it must use PHP. It would use a feature of an HTTP server such as Apache -- URL rewriting Basically, you can make rules such that urls like http://tinyurl.com/h4599 become http://tinyurl.com/index.php?id=h4599 you would then handle it from there. But this is off topic :) ramil http://ramil.sagum.net -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: A native Windows binding for PHP - released
I haven't downloaded it yet because I have seen that I need PHP 4 and that it won't work with PHP 5, but I will install PHP4 just for testing it. I am glad that it uses Win32 native classes because those classes are accessible for the most screen readers used by the blind, so the interfaces will be accessible for the blind also. GTK for PHP, like the TK package for perl don't create accessible interfaces but perl can use the Win32:: libraries or the XW:: and it is great that now we can create programs with Windows GUI's also, using PHP. Teddy - Original Message - From: Gryffyn, Trevor [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Rubem Pechansky [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 17, 2004 5:08 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] Re: A native Windows binding for PHP - released On 09/16/2004 09:01 PM, Rubem Pechansky wrote: I have designed and successfully prototyped a native Windows binding for PHP. This binding is very lightweight and it is already capable of doing dialogs, controls, and a lot more with a few dozen lines of code. PHP can thus be used as a tool for quick development of native Windows applications. I have just released this project to the public as Open Source at http://winbinder.sourceforge.net/. Although it is still a work in progress, you can take a look at the source code, download a working demo and play with it a little bit. Your ideas, comments, criticisms and suggestions are very welcome. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Downloading a part of a file
Hi all, Please tell me how can I fetch an html document from a web page, let's say starting from the character 1000, and get the text until the caracter 5000. In fact, I want to use the GET or POST method, and to also send to the server the HTTP header: Range: bytes=1000-5000 Thanks. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: htmlentities and foreign characters from MS Word
You could store those texts as binary in MySQL... - Original Message - From: Monty [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, September 06, 2004 11:07 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: htmlentities and foreign characters from MS Word That did it! It seems that my version of MySQL doesn't support Unicode encoding, only the various ISO encodings. So, I guess this translation is necessary before storing all text in the DB so foreign characters aren't broken when I retrieve them from the DB. Thanks! I2eptilex wrote: -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] tool to increase your web site?s profitability
Does this list have a moderator? Teddy From: theeb basheer [EMAIL PROTECTED] Dear Friend, Would you be excited if I told that YOU COULD EARN $3,500 EVERY DAY from a web site that gets only 100 visitors a day... and sells a product that costs less than $150? You could be earning over $100,000 every month! This isn't hype. And this certainly is no joke! It's rare that I am this impressed by a marketing technique... but this literally blew my mind! This is information that we are sharing with our subscribers only -- so listen up! I watched in utter amazement as this guy (who we'll call Mr. H for the moment) turned... 100 visitors a day into $1,277,500 a year in profits! ... and he's just starting out! Get this -- he expects to be earning $10,000,000 a year when he's finished implementing this SIMPLE, yet totally INGENIOUS MARKETING STRATEGY! This isn't about banner advertising... search engines... or newsgroups. And it's certainly not about some rare, high priced product... or huge volumes of traffic. It's about none of that. This guy has developed AN ENTIRELY NEW WAY TO MARKET YOUR BUSINESS on the Internet! And he's blown the gimmicky theories of those so-called marketing experts right out of the water! He's proven that -- using this one totally brilliant marketing strategy -- the small business owner can EARN HUGE PROFITS CONSISTENTLY! Day after day, month after month... the sales just keep rolling in! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Correct headers for I.E. to open PDF?
This has nothing to do with PHP or the server, but with the way the client computer is configured. If the user doesn't want to open a .pdf file in the browser but to be prompted for saving the file, that's the way he will have it. ...fortunately. Teddy Teddy - Original Message - From: Paul Danko [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, September 03, 2004 10:05 PM Subject: [PHP] Correct headers for I.E. to open PDF? I have searched the net, and found tons of developers with different solutions to this problem, none of which I have found to work. What should the headers be for a client to download a PDF document and have it open using adobe i.e. pluggin?? Here is code I am using, it works on some versions of I.E., but not all: $pdfdoc = $__BASE_PDF_BUILD_DIRECTORY.$_GET['FID']; -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Regex for Validating URL
I have taken a look and I have seen a {3} and I think this was for
specifying the number of letters of the top domain name.
Well, I think it should be {4} for making it work for .info domains also...
T
Teddy
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To: Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, September 02, 2004 4:56 PM
Subject: Re: [PHP] Regex for Validating URL
From: Jason Wong [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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[PHP] Reading the documentation
Hi all, I have 2 questions: 1. Do PHP libraries have a documentation included inside of them like in case of Perl's modules? 2. If yes, how can I read that documentation? Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Reading the documentation
Ok, thank you. Well, it seems that PHP libraries don't have the documentation included... This is too bad, because it is much harder to search in the PHP manual, and some libraries that might be downloaded from different sites and made by different programmers won't have the documentation included in the PHP manual. I thought PHP also have a kind of program like perldoc for perl which can display the documentation for a built in function, for a library that was installed, plus different tutorials... I guess it would be a good idea to implement such a thing in PHP also, including a documentation in comments, with some special marks... Teddy - Original Message - From: M. Sokolewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 11:29 AM Subject: [PHP] Re: Reading the documentation Octavian Rasnita wrote: Hi all, I have 2 questions: 1. Do PHP libraries have a documentation included inside of them like in case of Perl's modules? 2. If yes, how can I read that documentation? Thank you. Teddy that would depend on what you understand under the term PHP libraries, if you mean the actual C files, then no, if you mean the PHP extensions, eg. mysql, mcrypt, XML, etc. then yes, they do have documentation (most of them), which can be found in the PHP Manual available on php.net. If you're talking about the PECL extensions, then they usually don't have much, if any, documentation about it. It basically means you'd need to read the C code for it and find out yourself... hope that helped, - Tul -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Sending email
Hi all, I want to send a test message with the following specifications: 1. The message is sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED] 2. The message is sent to the following recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] 3. The message has the subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 4. The message has the following header: From: Me[EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Multiple recipientsrecipients.info 5. The body of the message is: Test Can I use mail() function for this? Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Sending email
Thank you all, but how can I send the message from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email
adress, but in the header of the message to put [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Something like giving the following commands to an SMTP server:
telnet mail.server.com 25
helo mail.server.com
mail from:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
rcpt to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
data
From: Two[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: ZZZ[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: subject
test body
.
So the message is sent from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] email address and goes to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
But when the message is received, it appears with the data from the body of
the message (after the data command), meaning from [EMAIL PROTECTED] to
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
And another question is why it appears the following error message (under
Windows 2000):
PHP Warning: mail(): sendmail_from not set in php.ini or custom From:
header missing in...
I don't want to set that in php.ini, but I have put From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
as the fourth parameter of the mail() function, however, it still gives me
that error.
I am running a local smtp server.
Thank you much.
Teddy
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From: M. Sokolewicz [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 1:31 PM
Subject: [PHP] Re: Sending email
Octavian Rasnita wrote:
Hi all,
I want to send a test message with the following specifications:
1. The message is sent by [EMAIL PROTECTED]
2. The message is sent to the following recipients: [EMAIL PROTECTED],
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
3. The message has the subject: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
4. The message has the following header:
From: Me[EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Multiple recipientsrecipients.info
5. The body of the message is:
Test
Can I use mail() function for this?
Thank you.
Teddy
sure you can :)
just do
mail('[EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED]', '[EMAIL PROTECTED]',
'test', 'From: Me [EMAIL PROTECTED]');
more info:
(http://www.php.net/manual/en/function.mail.php)
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Re: [PHP] Storing, formatting and displaying data
Oh thank you. This is exactly what I need. I can create regular expressions to do the job, but I wanted some ideas for the mark points used. Teddy Teddy - Original Message - From: Justin French [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, August 20, 2004 7:02 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] Storing, formatting and displaying data Octavian, If you wish to avoid WYSIWYG editors and stick with some thing ASCI-based, I can highly recommend Textile [1], which is distributed as part of a new PHP-based CMS called Textpattern [2]. Textile is a sort-of shorthand mark-up for converting ASCI to valid XHTML. This is a paragraph with a line break, *strong* and _emphasised_ text. * this is * an unordered -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] downloading files
You can put the files that need to be downloaded in a directory somewhere outside of the web server root, but in that case your PHP program will need to read the file and print it to the browser, and it will also need printing the HTTP headers: Content-type: application/octet-stream Content-disposition: attachment; file=$filename Content-length: xxx [blank line] Or you can put the files somewhere on the web server tree, protect the directory with .htaccess (username + password), and just put a simple link to those files. When someone will click that link, it will be asked for a username and password in a popup window that the browser will open. If you don't want to appear that window, you can set your server to redirect the user to a php script, for a certain Status code that is generated when authorization is required, and that PHP script can ask nice for a username and password that can be used then by the script to allow access to that file (but this way might be more complicated without real benefits). Teddy Teddy - Original Message - From: Aaron Todd [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 19, 2004 8:30 PM Subject: [PHP] downloading files I posted a simular question before and never really got an answer. The post drifted off into some other valuable information, but I still have the same question. I am trying to create a site with file downloads. The files on the server that are to be downloaded need to be protected somehow. I have already created a login page for the site so users must log in. The download files are in a directory protected by htaccess which it is my understanding that PHP can go underneath htaccess to get access to the files. My problem is where do I put this directory? I was already told to put it outside the web root directory, but I really dont know where the best place is. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Storing, formatting and displaying data
Hi all, I would like to create a program that allow users to insert text into a database, than that text to appear in a web page formatted as HTML. It is simple to replace the end of line with br /\n in order to format that text as html, but I don't know how I could let the users to create bulleted lists, tables, etc. Lets say that the users are admins that I can trust, but they don't know HTML at all, however, they want to insert a table, or a list, etc. Are there any solutions for this? I am thinking to something like inserting table COL1##COL2##COL3 CEL1##CEL2##CEL3 /table ...for the tables, or something like that, then to make the program transform this in a true table. But maybe there are better solutions. Thanks for any ideas. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Cache
From: pan [EMAIL PROTECTED] What provides the new data? Can you run a html update from whatever is supplying the new data? Hmm, I don't think I can. The data is stored in MySQL by a separate program, but that data can be used in more pages. I think the only good solution would be to run a program that create a cache for every page from that site. This would not be very simple because the site could have more template styles available for the users, and all the page could appear in more languages, and some pages could be accessed from a form with many options, etc. It would not be very practicly to create such many cached pages. I begin to think that it is not really possible to do what I want and I guess that if the PHP program is well done, the speed difference would not be too big. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Compile
From: raditha dissanayake [EMAIL PROTECTED] i think you are looking for something like turck mmcache. Do you know if Turck MMCache works with PHP 5.0? Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP templates
Hi, I took a look to Smarty and Savant templating systems, and I like a few things from both of them. However, none of them are satisfactory. I don't like Smarty because it needs another language and I find Savant more easy to use. I would like to have a templating system that: 1. Separates: - the programming part (the main programs and the modules) - the structure and main design of the site (the templates) - The content of the site, this meaning the body text, the title, keywords, and all other variables. - Other files that can be included, like Javascript, .css, images, files that can be downloaded, etc. 2. The templates should handle more languages, and all the content parts should be able to appear in every language supported. 3. The program should be able to create a cache but not one containing PHP, but one that is just simple html that can be loaded from a cached file and presenting to the client. (I don't know how to decide yet when to re-create the cached file) If someone uses this templating system, someone can modify the design by modifying the templates and this change will be reflected in every language. If a translator add a new language or modifies a certain translation, the design won't be affected. The programmer could add a new program for a new page that does something new, or new modules, etc. I couldn't find such a thing yet and I think I will have to create it. Teddy - Original Message - From: Justin French [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Octavian Rasnita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 4:38 AM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP templates On 15/08/2004, at 7:02 AM, Octavian Rasnita wrote: Hi all, I have seen that there are many templating systems for PHP. Which is the most used and the best you have found? Can you recommend me a free and good templating system? -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Cache
Hi all, I want to create an html cache of a page, like when that page is saved to the disk and let the visitors download that static page and not a dynamic one. Of course, a dynamic PHP program will load that static page and display it, but without need to connect to databases, to make calculations, etc. The problem is that I don't know how to automaticly decide when it is the right moment to update the cache and this is very important. I get some data from a database and the PHP program doesn't know when the database gets updated by another program, so it cannot create the cache for that page immediately. If I let the program check the database each time it is ran, this takes some times, and it is like I would not use the cache at all. Is it possible to use that kind of cache I want? (meaning... a kind of static page saved). Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] CSRF attack not possible in I.E. 6.01 SP1?
Why is so important if Internet Explorer allows URLS of images where the file name is only .jpg, .png, or .gif? A url can be something like: http://www.site.com/script.php/image.jpg?logout=true Internet Explorer might think that the file is a .jpg and that script.php is a directory but only the target web server knows which is the program. Or a PHP code might be contained in a image.jpg file. Teddy Teddy - Original Message - From: Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Jay Blanchard [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, August 16, 2004 9:52 PM Subject: RE: [PHP] CSRF attack not possible in I.E. 6.01 SP1? --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I m sure all PHP developers check their applications for CSRF vulnerability, in various browsers (including I.E. ). I speak about CSRF in many of the talks I give, and I think you'd be surprised by how many people haven't even heard of it. As a PHP/Java developer, I would be interested to know what I.E. is doing in their browsers to prevent CSRF attacks. I m not trying to start a browser war here. Well, to be fair, even if it is true that IE does not request a URL referenced in an img tag unless the file extension matches a known image type, this isn't a complete or even optimal solution to the problem. Also, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Security Workbook
I have also read that pdf document and I have found another interesting advice. The author says that a good way of hiding the username/password is to put a file that exports 2 environment variables in a directory that can be read only by the root, then include a call to that file in httpd.conf in order to let the web server to have access to those variables. Well, I don't really understand why this is so secure. I understand that the web server is run by root, which sees that file and exports the variables, then another user without many priviledges runs the child process of the web server, but if there are more than one user that run PHP files or files made in other languages on that server, they will also be able to see those environment variables. Did I understand correctly? Teddy - Original Message - From: Chris Shiflett [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Burhan Khalid [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, August 15, 2004 4:05 PM Subject: Re: [PHP] PHP Security Workbook --- Burhan Khalid [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Most of the stuff was common sense to me (and I was glad I was doing those things unconsciously). That's good to hear. :-) Most of the people that have heard me give this talk (which is a few hundred now) have realized several vulnerabilities in their current applications, bad development habits, etc. I actually get tired of giving the same (or very similar) talks, but I'll keep giving this one as long as it keeps surprising a lot of the audience. The fewer excuses we give people to equate PHP with poor security, the better off we'll all be. However, I do have issue with one paragraph: Page 29, -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] PHP Security Workbook
Oh thank you for this information. This is very important for me to know. Yes, this is another thing that I mention in the talk but failed to include in the workbook. When this approach is being applied to a shared hosting environment, you want to put the Include directive within a VirtualHost block of httpd.conf, so that it only applies to a single virtual host. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: Help with Regular Expressions
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi all, I am working on a small php script which should do the following. I want all the links in the page to be preceded by first character and first two characters of the link.Please look into the example below for more clarification. eg. a href=/code.htmllink here/a to be replaced as a href=/c/co/code.htmllink here/a I guess, this is possible by using regular expressions but I am not able to crack the right expression. Hi, This is not very simple. The URI which in your example is /code.html can be anything, including something like m.html. In that case which would be the first 2 letters? Or, the URI can be something like m-like.html. In this case the first 2 letters will be m- or ml? A good regular expression should work in all situations so it is important to know what is the desired result, and not to asume that there won't be any links like /.html or something worse. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] PHP templates
Hi all, I have seen that there are many templating systems for PHP. Which is the most used and the best you have found? Can you recommend me a free and good templating system? Thank you. Teddy -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
