Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
very fine work mr heyes, I've been most impressed by you're RGraph - a great use for the canvas! Thank you! -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
Probably not Firefox 1.5. I have FF 1.5 without _any_ add-ons here and all I got were the same 5 horizontal bands of grey and blue. So it does support it, bit not very well... :-) -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
Hi, I'm not very familiar with the whole thing yet I think that's a common position. but after looking at your site I find it quite interesting. So is it possible to render 3d vector based objects in the canvas and if so an entire 3d based website? Well before you start calling the methods which actually do something, you need to get a context and specify '2d' (the only one that's supported right now), so the door has been left open for a '3d' context. And if it doesn't materialise, then no biggie. Are there any 3d libraries yet like OpenGL for applications? Don't think so. Though there is a 3d Doom-esque game which you'll find if you look around. It would be quite handy to describe 3d/2d objects or styles with a language like CSS. Do you think that will be possible in the near future? Probably not. But the drawing API is very easy to use with methods like lineTo() and arc() etc. The drawing is all done using Javascript so if you're familiar with that, then you're in. -- Richard Heyes HTML5 Graphing for FF, Chrome, Opera and Safari: http://www.rgraph.org -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
Richard Heyes wrote: Hi, Not quite PHP, but since you're all web developers you may well be interested in this: http://www.phpguru.org/static/canvas.html It's a short piece on the new HTML5 canvas tag. Bonza. very fine work mr heyes, I've been most impressed by you're RGraph - a great use for the canvas! -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
[PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:15:10 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, it doesn't mention which versions of the browsers it lists are capable of displaying the canvas tag. I'm still using Firefox 2 on this computer, and all I got was 5 horizontal bands of grey and blue. Check your addons and such, Ashley. Gecko itself (the HTML rendering engine used in Firefox) has supported canvas since 1.8 I believe, which equated to Firefox 1.5. Probably not Firefox 1.5. I have FF 1.5 without _any_ add-ons here and all I got were the same 5 horizontal bands of grey and blue. Opera 9.5 works ok. Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones| jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 * Killfiling google banter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 20:53 +, Jonesy wrote: On Sun, 12 Oct 2008 14:15:10 -0400, Daniel Brown wrote: On Sun, Oct 12, 2008 at 1:50 PM, Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hmm, it doesn't mention which versions of the browsers it lists are capable of displaying the canvas tag. I'm still using Firefox 2 on this computer, and all I got was 5 horizontal bands of grey and blue. Check your addons and such, Ashley. Gecko itself (the HTML rendering engine used in Firefox) has supported canvas since 1.8 I believe, which equated to Firefox 1.5. Probably not Firefox 1.5. I have FF 1.5 without _any_ add-ons here and all I got were the same 5 horizontal bands of grey and blue. Opera 9.5 works ok. Jonesy -- Marvin L Jones| jonz | W3DHJ | linux 38.24N 104.55W | @ config.com | Jonesy | OS/2 * Killfiling google banter.com: jonz.net/ng.htm Just disable the add-ons for Fx, and no such luck. Opera 9.2 doesn't work with it either. I think it goes back to my original point that version numbers next to the browsers that the tag will work on might be helpful. It's a bit like saying CSS works on such-and-such browser, without knowing what version of the browser, and what CSS property. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
I'm not very familiar with the whole thing yet but after looking at your site I find it quite interesting. So is it possible to render 3d vector based objects in the canvas and if so an entire 3d based website? Are there any 3d libraries yet like OpenGL for applications? It would be quite handy to describe 3d/2d objects or styles with a language like CSS. Do you think that will be possible in the near future? A yeti. -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 14:50 -0700, Yeti wrote: I'm not very familiar with the whole thing yet but after looking at your site I find it quite interesting. So is it possible to render 3d vector based objects in the canvas and if so an entire 3d based website? Are there any 3d libraries yet like OpenGL for applications? It would be quite handy to describe 3d/2d objects or styles with a language like CSS. Do you think that will be possible in the near future? A yeti. The best thing I've seen so far for 3D on the web is Papervision. It's Flash based, but the donkey work is in Actionscript 3. The best thing I've seen so far in terms of what it's capable of is probably http://lab.zupko.info/reflection/realz/ which is displaying real-time reflections for an X-wing starfighter on some sort of ice cube mirror. You have to see it to understand it. It's also damn fast as libraries go. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
This is the coolest thing I've seen using canvas so far: http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/ - Original Message - From: Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP - General php-general@lists.php.net Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:08:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 14:50 -0700, Yeti wrote: I'm not very familiar with the whole thing yet but after looking at your site I find it quite interesting. So is it possible to render 3d vector based objects in the canvas and if so an entire 3d based website? Are there any 3d libraries yet like OpenGL for applications? It would be quite handy to describe 3d/2d objects or styles with a language like CSS. Do you think that will be possible in the near future? A yeti. The best thing I've seen so far for 3D on the web is Papervision. It's Flash based, but the donkey work is in Actionscript 3. The best thing I've seen so far in terms of what it's capable of is probably http://lab.zupko.info/reflection/realz/ which is displaying real-time reflections for an X-wing starfighter on some sort of ice cube mirror. You have to see it to understand it. It's also damn fast as libraries go. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag
On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 18:08 -0400, TG wrote: This is the coolest thing I've seen using canvas so far: http://www.abrahamjoffe.com.au/ben/canvascape/ - Original Message - From: Ashley Sheridan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Yeti [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: PHP - General php-general@lists.php.net Date: Sun, 12 Oct 2008 23:08:30 +0100 Subject: Re: [PHP] Re: HTML5 canvas tag On Sun, 2008-10-12 at 14:50 -0700, Yeti wrote: I'm not very familiar with the whole thing yet but after looking at your site I find it quite interesting. So is it possible to render 3d vector based objects in the canvas and if so an entire 3d based website? Are there any 3d libraries yet like OpenGL for applications? It would be quite handy to describe 3d/2d objects or styles with a language like CSS. Do you think that will be possible in the near future? A yeti. The best thing I've seen so far for 3D on the web is Papervision. It's Flash based, but the donkey work is in Actionscript 3. The best thing I've seen so far in terms of what it's capable of is probably http://lab.zupko.info/reflection/realz/ which is displaying real-time reflections for an X-wing starfighter on some sort of ice cube mirror. You have to see it to understand it. It's also damn fast as libraries go. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php That's cool! It is a little slow though, speed is not half as good as Papervision. I don't know why, but that works for me yet the graph doesn't. Ash www.ashleysheridan.co.uk -- PHP General Mailing List (http://www.php.net/) To unsubscribe, visit: http://www.php.net/unsub.php
