[PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Phil Neeb
I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there are 
so many.

Gracias,
Phil
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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Dan Joseph
 What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and
 MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there are
 so many.

Tough question to ask  best is usually what the beholder likes
best.  I will say this:

I prefer Red Hat or Fedora Linux.

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread John Nichel
Phil Neeb wrote:
I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there are 
so many.
Let the war begin! ;)
FWIW : I prefer Linux, Red Hat flavor.  Why?  Only because I've used it 
since RH 5.2.

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Johannes Findeisen
Hello Phil,

On Monday 28 March 2005 22:19, Phil Neeb wrote:
 I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...

 What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and
 MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there are
 so many.

i would prefer Gentoo Linux ( http://gentoo.org/ ) because it is very up to 
date. There are install scripts (ebuilds) for PHP until 5.0.3 and the 
installation makes no problems at all. If you are not much into Linux i would 
prefer Fedora Core Linux ( http://fedora.redhat.com/ ), the problem is, that 
you must compile much software by hand if you want very new versions and 
Fedory is not that freaky then Gentoo. By the way Fedory is very easy to 
install and it runs very very stable. If you need a hardcore develpment 
plattform read the docs on the Gentoo website and you are on the right way.

Another OS which is very easy to install is FreeBSD. I know a hoster which 
runs this system on nearly every Mashine. I don't know much about FreeBSD but 
i have installed some day in the past and it wasn't much painfull.

Hope this helps...

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Danny Brow
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:19 -0500, Phil Neeb wrote:
 I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
 
 What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
 MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there are 
 so many.


Slackware.

Dan.

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RE: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
 I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
 
 What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
 MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there
are 
 so many.
[/snip]

BSD, hands down.

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RE: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Mike
I personally like OpenBSD - though many of the BSDs are similar at many
tasks and only have notable differences in a few areas (and it's those areas
you should look to find which works best for you).

I wonder who will get bored and stir up the ants nest and say Windows? ;)

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 Subject: [PHP] Best Server OS
 
 I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
 
 What do you think the best OS is for running a server with 
 PHP and MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which 
 Linux OS, there are so many.
 
 Gracias,
 Phil
 
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RE: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Danny Brow
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:58 -0500, Mike wrote:
 I personally like OpenBSD - though many of the BSDs are similar at many
 tasks and only have notable differences in a few areas (and it's those areas
 you should look to find which works best for you).
 
 I wonder who will get bored and stir up the ants nest and say Windows? ;)

Screw Windows, how about OS/2 :)

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Christian Heinrich
I prefer Debian 3.1 ..
Everyones taste is quite different, so I suggest to install some 
test-installations of those different OS - and you have the choice.

Christian
Phil Neeb schrieb:
I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there 
are so many.

Gracias,
Phil
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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread John Hinton
Phil Neeb wrote:
I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there 
are so many.

Gracias,
Phil
Being an old RedHatter.. Since 5.1.. I like RedHat flavors.
If you want MySQL 3 versions, CentOS EL 3.4 is a free Redhat Enterprise 
Linux clone.

For MySQL 4.x... CentOS EL 4 is out. Also has selinux if you want to 
take that on. All quality stuff that you can rely on in a mission 
critical environment.

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread M. Sokolewicz
Danny Brow wrote:
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:58 -0500, Mike wrote:
I personally like OpenBSD - though many of the BSDs are similar at many
tasks and only have notable differences in a few areas (and it's those areas
you should look to find which works best for you).
I wonder who will get bored and stir up the ants nest and say Windows? ;)

Screw Windows, how about OS/2 :)
screw that too. Unix-based systems are the way to go here. From what 
I've seen, those are the systems that are:
a) most used
b) run smoothest
c) are simplest to install / manage from a distance
d) are most up-to-date at all times

Personally I'd suggest using either Fedora (RH), or Debian.  But that's 
just my personal opinion ;)

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi John,
since I have CentOS 3.4 and just wanted to update MySQL to version 4, 
your comment surprised me :). Can you give some more info about that?

Thanks!
-afan

John Hinton wrote:
Phil Neeb wrote:
I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and 
MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there 
are so many.

Gracias,
Phil
Being an old RedHatter.. Since 5.1.. I like RedHat flavors.
If you want MySQL 3 versions, CentOS EL 3.4 is a free Redhat 
Enterprise Linux clone.

For MySQL 4.x... CentOS EL 4 is out. Also has selinux if you want to 
take that on. All quality stuff that you can rely on in a mission 
critical environment.

John Hinton
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RE: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread tg-php
I will!

Ok, not completely.

I'm an avid windows user, but not a blind Gates disciple.. please don't accuse 
me of that.

I will never say that a Windows server is the 'best' platform for doing PHP 
script serving because I don't believe that's the case.  It DOES work, but it's 
far from the 'best'.  If it was one of the 'best' then Zend would never have 
created Zend WinEnabler to ...bring PHP on Windows up to par with PHP on 
Linux...  (http://www.zend.com/store/products/zend-win-enabler.php if you're 
curious)  And for $500, I'd say that Linux of any flavor is definitely a winner 
over Windows just for that reason.

BUT...  when it comes to picking an OS for your server, it's VERY important to 
ask yourself a few key things.

Probably the biggest in my book would be who is going to be maintaining this 
server and how easy would it be to find another person if you had to.  PHP 
hosted on BeOS might be the absolute best in performance, but if you're hard 
pressed to find another BeOS admin if your chosen admin dies, quits, gets 
fired, etc then it's not worth going that route.

This choice affects pretty much everything else.  Downtime, deployment time, 
security, etc.  If you have a bunch of Windows admins and you insist that they 
install Linux and put up an Apahce/PHP setup, there's probably going to be some 
learning time, potential problems, misconfigurations, frustrations, random 
downtimes when problems come up and solutions have to be researched from 
scratch, etc.

If you already have an established Windows server based network, don't be 
afraid to set up PHP.  It may not be the best, but you'll have fewer long-term 
problems I believe.

If you're starting from scratch all around.. either admin'ing it yourself or 
havn't hired the admin.. or your admin knows nothing about computers to start 
with and will be learning everything from step 1 anyway, then definitely go 
linux.  Red hat is very popular, as well as many of the BSDs.

As much as I like Windows AND Linux, all practicality says go with whatever you 
have established and keep your network simple.   Even if you have a Windows 
network and a Windows admin who's also proficient in Linux, think of what you'd 
have to do to replace that person someday.  You'd end up having to find another 
Windows+Linux admin or get a Linux admin and possibly a separate Windows person.

Personally I like dealing with MS SQL Server better than MySQL by a LONG shot, 
but PHP best ASP/ASP.Net handsdown.  So my last job where I worked with PHP 
under Windows Server 2003 interfacing (via ADODB) with SQL Server and Oracle 
was great.  I didn't have any problems with PHP running under Windows.  But it 
also wasn't a mission critical or high volume setup.  Results may vary.

-TG



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I personally like OpenBSD - though many of the BSDs are similar at many
tasks and only have notable differences in a few areas (and it's those areas
you should look to find which works best for you).

I wonder who will get bored and stir up the ants nest and say Windows? ;)


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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Danny Brow
On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 23:28 +0200, M. Sokolewicz wrote:
 Danny Brow wrote:
 
  On Mon, 2005-03-28 at 15:58 -0500, Mike wrote:
  
 I personally like OpenBSD - though many of the BSDs are similar at many
 tasks and only have notable differences in a few areas (and it's those areas
 you should look to find which works best for you).
 
 I wonder who will get bored and stir up the ants nest and say Windows? ;)
  
  
  Screw Windows, how about OS/2 :)
 screw that too. Unix-based systems are the way to go here. From what 
 I've seen, those are the systems that are:
 a) most used
 b) run smoothest
 c) are simplest to install / manage from a distance
 d) are most up-to-date at all times
 
 Personally I'd suggest using either Fedora (RH), or Debian.  But that's 
 just my personal opinion ;)
 

I was kidding about OS/2, it's a dead OS. 

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Re: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Jason Barnett
Danny Brow wrote:
...
I wonder who will get bored and stir up the ants nest and say Windows? ;)

Windoze is da shizzle my nizzle!  Every1 knoz the kewlest SkRiPtErS use
Windoze!

...

 I was kidding about OS/2, it's a dead OS.

Nuh uh, just tell that to my overclocked 286 with 4MB of RAM!

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RE: [PHP] Best Server OS

2005-03-28 Thread Chris W. Parker
Phil Neeb mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
on Monday, March 28, 2005 12:19 PM said:

 I'm lookin for some opinions on this one ...
 
 What do you think the best OS is for running a server with PHP and
 MySQL?  If you're going to say Linux, please, which Linux OS, there
 are so many.

I will throw my vote in for some flavor of Red Hat. Beit the older
version(s) 8 or 9, or the later Fedora Core 1, 2, or 3.

I just got FC3 installed yesterday (Gnome gave me lots of trouble so I
reinstalled for a 3rd time without the GUI, still has a basic X11 GUI
though). Runs much better now. Never tried Xfce though. That might have
worked fine.

Anyway...



Chris.

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