Re: [PHP] [really O T] Re: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting O T

2005-08-25 Thread Sabine

Jochem Maas schrieb:


Sabine wrote:

But pity for female germans asking stupid questions and mingling 
english with german? ;-)




of course :-)


you might as well know that soon John Nichel will take over the world
and outlaw political correctness. this means we can soon start to take a
proper sexist stance on this list - hey as long as you wear high heels 
you're

okay ;-)



Oh, I'm really fond of high heels - as long as males with long and 
pretty legs in nylons wear them ;-)






Jochem Maas schrieb:



the guy is german - most germans speak/write better english people do.
just like they build better cars. ;-) so no pity for [male] germans. 
:-P


_only joking_









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Re: [PHP] [really O T] Re: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting O T

2005-08-25 Thread Jochem Maas

Sabine wrote:
But pity for female germans asking stupid questions and mingling english 
with german? ;-)



of course :-)


you might as well know that soon John Nichel will take over the world
and outlaw political correctness. this means we can soon start to take a
proper sexist stance on this list - hey as long as you wear high heels you're
okay ;-)




Jochem Maas schrieb:



the guy is german - most germans speak/write better english people do.
just like they build better cars. ;-) so no pity for [male] germans. :-P

_only joking_





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Re: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting O T

2005-08-19 Thread John Nichel

Jay Blanchard wrote:


I suppose that the good old days are long gone. The ones where newbies
were whipped into shape with just a few keystrokes. I guess we need to
be more politically correct and sensitive to the needs of others now. In
the spirit of this I will refrain from answering the "is it possible"
questions. Heck I may not answer any others either as my old school
cumrudgeonly attitude may be too much for others, especially those folks
who do not hail from english speaking countries.


When I become ruler of the world, I'm going to outlaw political correctness.



My apologies to any and all who were offended by my curt response.



It's your curt smell that offends me. ;)

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[PHP] [really O T] Re: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting O T

2005-08-19 Thread Jochem Maas

Jay Blanchard wrote:

[snip]
What is the point of taking this attitude with a poster who (I'm
guessing
from his name) is a non-native English speaker? He asks a perfectly
polite,
intelligible and on-topic question. Even if he isn't a good proportion
of


the question was VAGUE ... this is IT not sociology ...
questions that start 'is it possible' are pretty much asking for a 'yes.'
or a 'maybe.'

if the OP takes the hint and develops his ability to succinctly ask questions
(one that don't implicitly ask someone else to provide a complete solution to
a very general problem!!) then everyone benefits - him most of all.

besides getting the equivelant of a RTFM is kinding telling the OP, your
not a total noob anymore, time to fend for yourself - he could take it as a 
compliment ;-).


posters are non-native speakers, and I imagine they find this kind of
thing
a little intimidating.


I know people who find it intimidating to sit in a room alone or go to
the supermarket. feeling intimidated is a state of mind but not anyone's
intention here (AFAICT)


[/snip]

Yes, I suppose your are correct. His english was remarkably well written
so I did not suspect that he was foreign and I didn't even look at the
e-mail address for the reply. 


the guy is german - most germans speak/write better english people do.
just like they build better cars. ;-) so no pity for [male] germans. :-P

_only joking_


The point is this, as more and more folks take to mailing lists such as
this there are good practices and bad practices. We all need to learn
good practices, like avoiding top-posting.

You have exercized your right to point out what may be a bad practice,
me answering the OP in a sarcastic tone is a bad thing. You taking me on
for same is a bad thing, especially when you do not mark the subject as
now being off topic, such as I have done. How long have you been mailing
to mailing lists?

I suppose that the good old days are long gone. The ones where newbies
were whipped into shape with just a few keystrokes. I guess we need to


keep wipin' Jay! - they love you for it in the end :-) besides there is lots
of work to do if we want to drag the masses forward (e.g. praise the day that
there will be no more questions regarding register_globals!)


be more politically correct and sensitive to the needs of others now. In
the spirit of this I will refrain from answering the "is it possible"
questions. Heck I may not answer any others either as my old school
cumrudgeonly attitude may be too much for others, especially those folks
who do not hail from english speaking countries.


now look what you have done Mark!



My apologies to any and all who were offended by my curt response.


since when are you called Curt? ;-)





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RE: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting O T

2005-08-19 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
What is the point of taking this attitude with a poster who (I'm
guessing
from his name) is a non-native English speaker? He asks a perfectly
polite,
intelligible and on-topic question. Even if he isn't a good proportion
of
posters are non-native speakers, and I imagine they find this kind of
thing
a little intimidating.
[/snip]

Yes, I suppose your are correct. His english was remarkably well written
so I did not suspect that he was foreign and I didn't even look at the
e-mail address for the reply. 

The point is this, as more and more folks take to mailing lists such as
this there are good practices and bad practices. We all need to learn
good practices, like avoiding top-posting.

You have exercized your right to point out what may be a bad practice,
me answering the OP in a sarcastic tone is a bad thing. You taking me on
for same is a bad thing, especially when you do not mark the subject as
now being off topic, such as I have done. How long have you been mailing
to mailing lists?

I suppose that the good old days are long gone. The ones where newbies
were whipped into shape with just a few keystrokes. I guess we need to
be more politically correct and sensitive to the needs of others now. In
the spirit of this I will refrain from answering the "is it possible"
questions. Heck I may not answer any others either as my old school
cumrudgeonly attitude may be too much for others, especially those folks
who do not hail from english speaking countries.

My apologies to any and all who were offended by my curt response.

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Re: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting

2005-08-19 Thread Mark Rees
""Jay Blanchard"" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
[snip]
Is it possible to catch all parser errors (notices), and as that happens
redirecting to a 'sorry-page-not-available-at-this-moment' page, whilst
storing the error (or notice) message somewhere else (e.g. emailing it
to
the developer).
[/snip]

Yes?


/subtle

What is the point of taking this attitude with a poster who (I'm guessing
from his name) is a non-native English speaker? He asks a perfectly polite,
intelligible and on-topic question. Even if he isn't a good proportion of
posters are non-native speakers, and I imagine they find this kind of thing
a little intimidating.

One strange thing I notice about this list: even the most off-topic and
misguided question (like how can I clear a user's browser cache with PHP,
how do I set up a mailserver) gets a few intemperate answers and then
(perhaps because people's attention is drawn to it) a series of useful
answers. This encourages posters to come back and ask again, as they keep
getting answers. A well-formulated question, on the other hand, will
sometimes just be ignored, perhaps because it is buried in the general
traffic. Witness the recent post by Richard Lynch on "True Upload Max
Filesize", for example.

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Re: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting

2005-08-18 Thread John Nichel

Thomas Hochstetter wrote:

Hi again,

Is it possible to catch all parser errors (notices), and as that happens
redirecting to a 'sorry-page-not-available-at-this-moment' page, whilst
storing the error (or notice) message somewhere else (e.g. emailing it to
the developer).


Parse errors, no.  When the script won't parse, it can't run, so there's 
no way to capture the error with php.  Other errors (mysql, can't open 
file, etc).  Yes.  Most functions will return something upon execution 
(the result you want on success, false/null on failure).  Capture that. 
 Notices?  Turn that off in the php.ini for production.  You can also 
have php log the errors.


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RE: [PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting

2005-08-18 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Is it possible to catch all parser errors (notices), and as that happens
redirecting to a 'sorry-page-not-available-at-this-moment' page, whilst
storing the error (or notice) message somewhere else (e.g. emailing it
to
the developer).
[/snip]

Yes?


/subtle

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[PHP] Catching all errors and redirecting

2005-08-18 Thread Thomas Hochstetter
Hi again,

Is it possible to catch all parser errors (notices), and as that happens
redirecting to a 'sorry-page-not-available-at-this-moment' page, whilst
storing the error (or notice) message somewhere else (e.g. emailing it to
the developer).

thanks

Thomas

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