Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-30 Thread John Nichel
Brian Dunning wrote:
I guess "flame me back channel" was a little confusing. I'll try to use 
smaller words next time.
It had nothing to do with your words Brian.  I may have been born and 
raised in the South, but I'm still a pretty smart guy, and knew what you 
meant.  However that doesn't mean I am going to comply with *your 
request* when you flame some of the primary helpers on this list 
publicly.  I'm not under the impression that you're the one who decides 
who's *noise* is welcome on this list.

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-30 Thread Jason Wong
On Friday 30 July 2004 06:57, John Holmes wrote:
> > >   Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
> > > Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
> >
> > For all practical purposes:
> >
> >   RTFM == "read the manual"
> >
> > If someone finds it offensive then they're either delusional or paranoid
> > or more likely both!
>
> If I'm offended by the word "wong" what do that make me?

I don't know, but you can enrol in my Camp for Correction of Undesirable and 
Negative Traits :) They'll have you sorted out in no time.

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-30 Thread Jason Barnett
Funny... for the short time I've been on the list, it seems like our most 
popular topics are the ones that involve flaming.  I guess I need to get some 
charcoal for my barbecue pit, lest I be the one on the end of the fork ;)

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Nichel
Curt Zirzow wrote:
* Thus wrote John Nichel:
Harlequin wrote:
RTFM...?
AKA : Read The F**king Manual

I thought the proper response was suppose to be: STFW :)
Oh man, that would have been perfect.  I'm slipping in my old age. ;)
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Nichel
Brian Dunning wrote:
I'm among those who are really pissed off when I see honest questions 
being answered with 'RTFM' or 'STFW'. I am relatively new to PHP, but by 
no means am I new to programming: like everyone else here, I already 
know how to RTFM and STFW. But sometimes I like to get an opinion from a 
real person: correct me if I'm wrong; is that not the purpose of a list??
The purpose of this list is to help those who are willing to help 
themselves.  Rarely on this list will you see a RTFM reply to a well 
thought out question to a problem that isn't so well (if at all) 
documented.  Asking for opinion's is fine too, and I don't think you'll 
find many on this list who will 'RTFM' someone asking for an opinion as 
long as the opinion hasn't been asked a gazillion times before ("What's 
the best editor to use for PHP?").

If you're going to answer with an insulting 'RTFM' or 'STFW' then don't 
even post. Your noise is not helpful. Go find a list where everyone 
already knows everything so you can masturbate all you want.
You're talking to people who have been on this list, helping people for 
years now (and I'm not speaking of myself), and your suggestion to them 
is to go elsewhere?  What I find less helpful is a holier-than-thou 
soapbox speach.

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Nichel
John Holmes wrote:
Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
For all practical purposes:
 RTFM == "read the manual"
If someone finds it offensive then they're either delusional or paranoid or 
more likely both!

If I'm offended by the word "wong" what do that make me?
A "wong-a-phobiac"? ;)
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Harlequin
Mmmm...

Interesting Jay.

Maybe I'll just WTFM mate :)


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I have a table generated by some code that returns certain field values
and
drops them into a table. On of these values is ID and I'd like to
convert it
to a hyperlink that people can use to go to another page to view further
information about a record. However:

The fields are not individually identified as I use a for statement and
I
think I might need to redesign the table but don't know where to start.

Can anyone provide any pointers please...?
[/snip]

RTFM.

If I need a hyperlink I have to code it even in a loopi.e.

\n");
print("" . $remi->bellname . "\n");
print("niiname . "\">"
. $remi->niiname . " - click for batch report\n");
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Curt Zirzow
* Thus wrote John Nichel:
> Harlequin wrote:
> >RTFM...?
> >
> 
> AKA : Read The F**king Manual

I thought the proper response was suppose to be: STFW :)
 

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RE: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink OT

2004-07-29 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I'm among those who are really pissed off when I see honest questions 
being answered with 'RTFM' or 'STFW'. I am relatively new to PHP, but 
by no means am I new to programming: like everyone else here, I already 
know how to RTFM and STFW. But sometimes I like to get an opinion from 
a real person: correct me if I'm wrong; is that not the purpose of a 
list??

If you're going to answer with an insulting 'RTFM' or 'STFW' then don't 
even post. Your noise is not helpful. Go find a list where everyone 
already knows everything so you can masturbate all you want.

Please flame me back channel,
[/snip]

If your sensibilities are so offended and you need a PC list then I suggest that you 
start one. If you are going to ask questions that appear to have resulted from no 
research you must be prepared to be flamed. 

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Re: Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread rogerk
Quoting John Holmes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> > >   Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
> > > Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
> >
> > For all practical purposes:
> >
> >   RTFM == "read the manual"
> >
> > If someone finds it offensive then they're either delusional or paranoid or
> > more likely both!
>
> If I'm offended by the word "wong" what do that make me?

Wong-headed?!

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Re: Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Holmes
> > Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
> > Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
> 
> For all practical purposes:
> 
>   RTFM == "read the manual"
> 
> If someone finds it offensive then they're either delusional or paranoid or 
> more likely both!

If I'm offended by the word "wong" what do that make me?

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Jason Wong
On Friday 30 July 2004 04:46, Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:

>   Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
> Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?

For all practical purposes:

  RTFM == "read the manual"

If someone finds it offensive then they're either delusional or paranoid or 
more likely both!

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Matthew Sims
> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Nichel wrote:
>
>> Harlequin wrote:
>> > RTFM...?
>>
>> AKA : Read The F**king Manual
>
>   Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
> Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
>
>   Just my two cents.

Read the Fscking Manuel

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Brian Dunning
Most people who use the term RTFM do not attach any hostile 
intentions with
it.
I'm among those who are really pissed off when I see honest questions 
being answered with 'RTFM' or 'STFW'. I am relatively new to PHP, but 
by no means am I new to programming: like everyone else here, I already 
know how to RTFM and STFW. But sometimes I like to get an opinion from 
a real person: correct me if I'm wrong; is that not the purpose of a 
list??

If you're going to answer with an insulting 'RTFM' or 'STFW' then don't 
even post. Your noise is not helpful. Go find a list where everyone 
already knows everything so you can masturbate all you want.

Please flame me back channel,
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread rogerk
Quoting "Ashley M. Kirchner" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Nichel wrote:
>
> > Harlequin wrote:
> > > RTFM...?
> >
> > AKA : Read The F**king Manual
>
>   Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
> Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?

Because that's what it *does* mean.  The others are post-facto bowlderizing of
it.  If I told someone to FOAD, and tried to explain that it meant "float off
and die," I'd be covering up similarly.

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Nichel
Ashley M. Kirchner wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Nichel wrote:
Harlequin wrote:
> RTFM...?
AKA : Read The F**king Manual

Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
Just my two cents.

Great thing about an acronym...it can pretty much mean whatever _you_ 
want it too.  Of course where things like RTFM, STFA, et al are 
concerned, the majority will know it the *mean and nasty* way. ;)

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RE: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
> Harlequin wrote:
> > RTFM...?
> 
> AKA : Read The F**king Manual

Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?

Just my two cents.
[/snip]

Because that is what it has always meant. 

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Ashley M. Kirchner
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, John Nichel wrote:
Harlequin wrote:
> RTFM...?
AKA : Read The F**king Manual
Why not simply 'Read The Fine Manual', or 'Read The Fantastic
Manual'?  Why does it have to contain profanity?
Just my two cents.
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread rogerk
Quoting Jason Wong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> Most people who use the term RTFM do not attach any hostile intentions with
> it. If you're going to start getting all emotional about being told to RTFM
> then you should stay away frm mailing lists, the internet, and computers in
> general.

Well there *are* people whose language standards are quite conservative who find
even the "hidden" use of that Anglo-Saxonism in the acronym offensive -- "RTM"
would be much less so.  I don't agree with them, but I totally understand their
point.

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Re: Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Holmes
> From: John Nichel <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>

> I always feel so at home on this list.
> 
> Now if we could keep John and Chris from being so prim and proper. ;)

Yes, sir. I shall try. 

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Nichel
I always feel so at home on this list.
Now if we could keep John and Chris from being so prim and proper. ;)
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Jason Wong
On Friday 30 July 2004 01:05, Harlequin wrote:

> "John Nichel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
> news:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
> > Harlequin wrote:
> > > RTFM...?
> >
> > AKA : Read The F**king Manual

> I know.
>
> Just wondered if Jay had the courage of his convictions.

Most people who use the term RTFM do not attach any hostile intentions with 
it. If you're going to start getting all emotional about being told to RTFM 
then you should stay away frm mailing lists, the internet, and computers in 
general.

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink OT

2004-07-29 Thread raditha dissanayake
Harlequin wrote:
Jay
I am new. we all are at something at some point or other in our lives.
 

If you are newbie please read the newbie guide for the benefit of new 
members before posting.

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RE: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink OT

2004-07-29 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I am new. we all are at something at some point or other in our lives.

If you don't like me fine - just ignore me.

If you want to help, that's fine also.

Just be polite. You don't need to swear to get your point across and
don't
need to be aggressive as either method implies a lack of control on your
part and losing control is not what helping is about.

and Jay.

Have a great day :)
[/snip]


Apparently you are not aware of the great history of mailing lists. I
did help you and you will see several use all three acronyms to get
their point across. I didn't swear. My suggestion is that if you don't
like it don't post. Those who provide their quite valuable time here
appreciate when newbies show that they have at least done some research
or work towards the possible solution.

http://catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html

And Harlequin, don't be a smartarse.

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink OT

2004-07-29 Thread Harlequin
Jay

I am new. we all are at something at some point or other in our lives.

If you don't like me fine - just ignore me.

If you want to help, that's fine also.

Just be polite. You don't need to swear to get your point across and don't
need to be aggressive as either method implies a lack of control on your
part and losing control is not what helping is about.

and Jay.

Have a great day :)

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[snip]
Just wondered if Jay had the courage of his convictions.
[/snip]

Yes I do...I showed incredible restraint because I could have said STFW
and STFA too. Courage of my convictions indeed, are you new here?



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RE: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink OT

2004-07-29 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
Just wondered if Jay had the courage of his convictions.
[/snip]

Yes I do...I showed incredible restraint because I could have said STFW
and STFA too. Courage of my convictions indeed, are you new here?

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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Harlequin
I know.

Just wondered if Jay had the courage of his convictions.

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> > RTFM...?
> >
>
> AKA : Read The F**king Manual
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread John Nichel
Harlequin wrote:
RTFM...?
AKA : Read The F**king Manual
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Re: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Harlequin
RTFM...?

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"Jay Blanchard" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote in message
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[snip]
I have a table generated by some code that returns certain field values
and
drops them into a table. On of these values is ID and I'd like to
convert it
to a hyperlink that people can use to go to another page to view further
information about a record. However:

The fields are not individually identified as I use a for statement and
I
think I might need to redesign the table but don't know where to start.

Can anyone provide any pointers please...?
[/snip]

RTFM.

If I need a hyperlink I have to code it even in a loopi.e.

\n");
print("" . $remi->bellname . "\n");
print("niiname . "\">"
. $remi->niiname . " - click for batch report\n");
print("" . number_format($remi->bellcount,
0, '', ',') . "\n");
print("" . $remi->statdate . "\n");
print("\n");
}
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RE: [PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Jay Blanchard
[snip]
I have a table generated by some code that returns certain field values
and
drops them into a table. On of these values is ID and I'd like to
convert it
to a hyperlink that people can use to go to another page to view further
information about a record. However:

The fields are not individually identified as I use a for statement and
I
think I might need to redesign the table but don't know where to start.

Can anyone provide any pointers please...?
[/snip]

RTFM.

If I need a hyperlink I have to code it even in a loopi.e.

\n");
print("" . $remi->bellname . "\n");
print("niiname . "\">"
. $remi->niiname . " - click for batch report\n");
print("" . number_format($remi->bellcount,
0, '', ',') . "\n");
print("" . $remi->statdate . "\n");
print("\n");
}
?>

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[PHP] Conversion of Field Value to Hyperlink

2004-07-29 Thread Harlequin
Afternoon...

I have a table generated by some code that returns certain field values and
drops them into a table. On of these values is ID and I'd like to convert it
to a hyperlink that people can use to go to another page to view further
information about a record. However:

The fields are not individually identified as I use a for statement and I
think I might need to redesign the table but don't know where to start.

Can anyone provide any pointers please...?

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